[外絮] Jatt對C9 Balls KR soloq評價推特合戰已回收

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原編輯者: MadlyChemical 原Reddit串:https://goo.gl/7nWeHg Jatt: https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643277527994101760 Huni: 375 LP Masters in 115 games Balls: D2 84 LP in 192 games There's more to life than solo Q, but this is a worrying trend for C9. Huni: 115場就打上大師375分 Balls: 192場還卡鑽二 Soloq不代表全部，但這是C9的一個隱憂 Sneaky: https://twitter.com/C9Sneaky/status/643278768753082368 @RiotJatt why are u picking on balls ? I'm pretty sure there's more than just him in diamond 2. https://twitter.com/C9Sneaky/status/643279209935212544 @RiotJatt bjergsen, turtle, aphro, xmithie 你為什麼要針對球球，我很肯定他絕對比鑽二還強 比爾森，龜龜，阿佛摸跟非常不幸也沒打很高阿 Jatt: https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643279379347279872 @C9Sneaky Not trying to pick on anyone, I feel like currently he's an outlier. http://www.trackingthepros.com/bootcamp?hide=true https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643279606389207040 @C9Sneaky Balls has 80+ more games than anyone else in D2. It's not personal. I hope to see C9 do well at worlds https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643280091389161472 @C9Sneaky Also Bjergsen, Turtle, Aphro, and xmithie have not demoted from D1 to D2 on multiple occasions. 我沒有針對誰，只是覺得目前他不在同一個等級上 我希望C9在世界賽上表現得很好，還有鼻爾森，龜龜，阿佛摸跟非常不幸 並沒有從鑽一掉到鑽二好幾次 sOAZ: https://twitter.com/sOAZIZGOOD/status/643281207879270400 @RiotJatt how does this even matter ? darien and genja never played soloq in their life. soloq is completely different than competitive 這到底有什麼關係?達理安跟蔗皇從來就沒有打過soloq，soloq跟比賽是完全不同的東西 SaintVicious: https://twitter.com/LolStvicious/status/643281664194560000 @sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt alright Jatt ima draw the line here, questioning someones solo q ranking is pretty stupid 好了，jatt，到這裡為止了，質疑一個人的soloq成績是非常蠢的 Hauntzer: https://twitter.com/lolHauntzer/status/643282665227948032 @LolStvicious @sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt If soloq determined how well you did in competitive then I'd be the worst top in lcs 如果soloq表示你在比賽會打得多好的話，我就會是LCS最差的選手了(GV上路) Amazing: https://twitter.com/Amazing_EU/status/643282767766155268 @RiotJatt @C9Sneaky Why do you even bring up soloQ rating in order to estimate someone's skill? It just fuels potential shit coming his way 你為什麼要用soloq來評價一個人的技巧?這只是在引起觀眾戰balls而已。 Sheep: https://twitter.com/C9Sheep/status/643284365154361345 @LolStvicious @sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt wolf has been master tier like 90% of this season and he has a negative win rate on every support EDIT: Format EDIT 2: Added Haunzter and Amazing EDIT 3: Added C9 Sheep EDIT 4: Aaaand Jatt's Twitlonger is up Calling out Balls for his solo Q performance was in bad form. I think there is value in data, but a single data point doesn’t paint an accurate or fair picture. I’ve reached out to C9 and apologized, and I wish them the best as they prepare for worlds. Wolf這一季幾乎90%的時間都在大師，而他所有的角色勝率都不太好 用soloq的成績去說Ball的狀態不佳，我覺得資料有它的價值，但單一的資料不能準確 或公正的看出實際情況。 我跟C9接觸也致歉，而我希望他們在世界賽準備得很好。 EDIT 5: Monte: https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643356898016804864 I don't think @riotjatt did anything wrong accounting for all factors in his discussion of Balls. Pros may not like it, but it's his job. https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643357262539530240 In my opinion, Balls' professional play has been sub-par this year and it's worth at least considering his solo queue performance. https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643358088314097664 Pros will never like it when analysts discuss flaws in their play. Fact is, however, not everyone can be the best. https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643358992954228736 I think pros should spend less time arguing with analysts on Twitter and just prove to us they're good at Worlds. 匯集所有因素去討論Ball，我不覺得這件事上Jatt有做錯什麼，只是職業選手不喜歡 ，但這是Jatt的工作。 我是覺得Balls今年的職業表現低於水準，而這至少值得讓我們去考慮他的soloq表現 但職業選手絕對不會喜歡分析師談論他們的缺點，然而事實是 沒有任何人可以是完美的。 我覺得職業選手應該花少點時間在推特上戰分析師，然後在世界賽上證明自己。 EDIT 6: God these just keep coming, don't they... FORG1VEN: https://twitter.com/FORG1VENGRE/status/643358150196883456 @RiotJatt @MarcelFeldkamp @LolStvicious if soloq is not a good indicative of a 'current' level of a player then we shouldnt play!!! 如果Soloq不是一個良好的指標去衡量一個選手的目前水準，那我們都不該打soloq! Dexter: https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643303962532257792 @RiotJatt Presenting the data itself was fine, just the phrasing you used seemed to be completely off. Analysing is your job afterall. https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643305348158365700 @RiotJatt Presenting the data itself was fine, just the phrasing you used seemed to be completely off. Analysing is your job afterall. https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643305348158365700 @LolStvicious @RiotJatt Soloqueue has been completely shit anyways for 2 straight seasons. I dont give a fuck anymore if botlane goes 0-20 呈現資料是沒問題的，只是你引申的東西完全離題了，不過畢竟分析是你的工作 soloq在這兩季以來完全就只是屎罷了，當下路爆線時我完全不在乎了。 @LolStvicious @RiotJatt Soloqueue in both NA and EU is a complete clown fiesta, nothing to add NA和EU的soloq只是鬧劇罷了，沒什麼好講的 Febiven: (lol) https://twitter.com/FnaticFebiven/status/643375848490295296 soloq is just luck zzzzzzz soloq就是狗屎運啦 zzzzzzz -------------------------持續更新中 起因是Jatt在抽籤評論說Balls卡鑽二 之後整個論壇延燒，後來變成推特合戰 原本想翻一些下面reddit鄉民回應，不過好像該買飯了..XD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.230.147.167 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1442226165.A.40C.html 補漏翻，出門囉
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抓馬！
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開戰囉
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小峰:呵
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他真的卡鑽2蠻久的 還從鑽1掉到鑽2.....
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如果有人好奇選手們牌位 可以看這網站 http://goo.gl/2RG3ix
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都有其道理，世界賽見分曉，成敗論英雄。
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jatt本來在reddit就很黑了 剛好被抓辮子來鞭
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打完就知道啦
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他自己都講soloq不是全部了 其他人在敏感甚麼
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你沒注意到敏感的人都是....
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對照id去看會很有趣XD
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solo成績還是能參考吧
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說實話.. balls夏季是該他領繩無誤...
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Forgiven依然中肯R
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FNC都知道solo很重要 加強練習
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一堆人那邊不准 不打跟打不上去是兩回事吧
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sneaky那句是說在鑽二的人不只balls
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全串最中肯職業選手：Forgiven，其他NA抱團取暖的選
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外國版叉燒ㄇ:gg3:0 鄉民：團練不代表一切R
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手也不想想你們的爛是整個區域的爛
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jatt惹眾怒
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Jatt的意思感覺像是100場鑽二根1000場鑽二差很多
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tsm_jatt 意外嗎
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我覺得jatt monte by far比較有道理
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雖然比賽不是soloQ，但是說沒相關我還真的不信
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Balls 以前不是很強嗎
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怎麼感覺敏感的都是些問題人物 XDD
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soloq本來就無關比賽 哥soloq也打很爛阿
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Forgiven中肯王
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噓
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jatt可以來台灣 這邊也是SOLOQ看天下 ㄏ
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不過給哥四個faker隊友 去打世界賽也能完虐EDG
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韓國不是只收菁英不收____ㄇ
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soloq在這兩季以來完全就只是屎罷了 太癢啦
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個人認為sneaky在實況裡說的更扯 :Q
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balls不是藍寶王嗎 怎麼落到這般田地
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sOAZ SV Hauntzer Amazing 問題人物抱團取暖
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sneaky在實況說什麼啊
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去找他看抽籤時的實況 不過是我自己不喜歡他那樣
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小峰表示
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歐美大戰囉
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feb沒事啦，國外沒那麼保守，有實力更是大聲
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SV都可以嗆成這樣了
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怎沒人TAG Dyrus 出來說看看
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FNC很重視韓國SOLO Q阿 所以反串無誤
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Feb現在KR菁英阿XD
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Balls真的慘阿! 他去Bootcamp的選手裡 打最兇的
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結論就是na eu soloq沒參考價值 kr不同XD
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西門現在二度叩關世界 TOYZ除了要錢 還會什麼?
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S1~S5最被人看不起的冠軍隊 你很驕傲?
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雖然以前三星也戳戳的 但是亂玩跟認真卻上不了有差
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兩度叩關有什麼了不起...NBA一輪流會有人覺得強?
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之前看過fnatic影片 deilor跟小王子說dont be so co
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cky XD
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皇族連兩年亞軍 UZI2次打決賽又怎樣?
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很強阿 怎樣? 這種事每個人觀點都不同 挑這個戰很無
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聊 是沒別的東西可戰了嗎
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balls在bootcamp打得兇我不知道 但他的butt練很兇
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說真得AHQ國際賽從來都是吃鍋貼 怎那麼多人有信心
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AHQ跟FW國際賽成績都還可以拉，有打進複賽不錯ar
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全世界除了某些弱智會覺得皇族很差? 好笑了
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的確亞軍不了不起 可有些隊伍八強甚至世界賽都進不
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去 不過某些弱智可能會選擇性忽略 1>>0嘛
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草創時期的冠軍就別拿來自慰了 歐美中韓完全沒人鳥
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以台灣對電競付出的程度來嘲笑選手拿不到冠軍zzzzz
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過台港澳區 就玩具粉整天拿出來顯擺
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Febiven靠北XDDD
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我應該算椅黑，但那個時空背景TPA的確是帶給人感動
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Toyz尤其功不可沒，但一堆椅粉真的整天拿冠軍出來說
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嘴真的很可笑，S5是椅子自己選擇回來打，結果出不了
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國就算了還一堆腦粉搶著護主推1>0，真的很像小丑XD
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我還是從椅粉轉椅黑的那種人，S2的WC系列影片我重播
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了最少有六、七次，但椅粉真的別再推1>0了　很好笑
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C9真的爛阿 連閃電郎都打不贏 何況在B組 應該全敗
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講個soloq都可以崩潰 等不及世界賽歐美心碎了
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CLOWN FIESTA
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還在IEM
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國外風向普遍都是挺jatt的啊
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噓
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C9等著6敗吧 POOL3 16隊中最弱 絕對!
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