[閒聊] 球Z在Reddit上和鄉民AMA消失
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有點長
Hello reddit, in light of recent performances by Taiwan LMS teams at IEM and
MSI, it feels that the community may have some questions about the Taiwan
region and the competitive environment here.
I am rkL , Owner and CEO of MSE, I am joined by my head coach Lilballz, S2
World Champion and a prominent Taiwan eSports public figure.
Feel free to Ask us anything about the launch of Midnight Sun, Taiwan
eSports, or about Lilballz and what hes been up to after S2, or if you would
like to ask my team any questions.
各位鄉親大家好，由於最近LMS隊伍在IEM和MSI中的表現，你們可能對於台灣賽區以及比
賽環境會有些好奇。
我是rkl，MSE的老闆，我將和我們的教練球Z(S2世界冠軍、台灣電競知名人物)一起。
盡量問我們關於MSE、台灣電競，或是S2之後的球Z的事情，還是想問我的隊伍，都可以唷
！
1. What do you think of AHQ?
你對於AHQ有什麼看法?
Lilballz: I personally feel AHQ has a really strong Top and AD, and due to
recent meta changes, it really allows them to shine. I'm not saying Westdoor
is a bad player, just the opposite, the meta fits Westdoors team impact
style, where other lanes get more opportunities to have impact on the game.
球Z：我個人覺得AHQ有很厲害的TOP和AD，而且由於最近meta的變動，他們得以盡情發揮
。我不會說西門是個不好的玩家，正好相反，這個meta太適合西門隊伍喜愛碰撞的風格了
。所以其他路都有了更多影響比賽的能力。
(這串下面還有人釣魚說AHQ選手的個人能力其實不如YOE和HKE只是遊戲風格更果斷所以能
打出優勢，然後就筆戰了~)
2. Lilballz, why? (這邊的WHY附上連結: http://i.imgur.com/dnVRpzl.png)
球Z你這是何苦呢?
Lilballz : I made a bet , I am a man of my word
Poppy cosplay was still way better than shaving my eyebrows
我跟人打賭。我是說到做到的男人。
而且COS波比總比把眉毛剃掉好。
3.hello lilballz. I was wondering, are you still in contact with bigfatlp??
嗨球Z，我很好奇你跟bigfatlp還有連絡嗎？
add-on question: how did you meet jiji? were you both from vancouver area?
追加問題：你們怎麼認識的？你們都是從溫哥華來的嗎？
Lilballz : on occassion, to answer the questions below, we met each other at
a local internet cafe, because both of us decided to skip class that day, we
were trying put together a in house game of dota, so i started asking around
the internet cafe and thats a brief story about how we met.
although, since S2 worlds we havnt seen each other in person, which kinda
sucks
偶爾啦！至於追加的問題，我們在一間地方的網咖遇到。因為我們那天都決定要翹課，想
要來辦一個dota的線下賽，所以我們到處問附近的網咖，大概是這樣啦。
不過自從S2世界賽後我們就沒在遇見了，很可惜。
4.A question to my idol Lilballz.
Opinions on jungle Mundo in this meta?
請問我的偶像球z你對於蒙多jg在這個meta的看法?
Lilballz :
F-ing terrible, none of the new jungle items provide spell vamp making Mundo
not a strong choice.
爛死了。
沒有一個新的jg道具可以提供法術吸血，這使得蒙多jg不是個好選擇。
5.Hi Lillballz, as a fellow Taiwanese thank you for doing this AMA. My question
is, what in the world happened to TPA after they got reverse-swept by YOE at
IEM Taipei? Their whole team just collapsed after getting that 2-0 lead and
then losing 3 straight. Why has Chawy been so underwhelming when people saw
him as an upgrade over Morning? What do you think of Morning in the top lane?
What do you thnk of Lupin, was it better than the Bebe+Jay duo lane?
Hi球Z，做為同樣來自台灣的鄉親感謝你的AMA。
我的問題是TPA在被YOE讓二追三的IEM總決賽到底發生了什麼事？他們整個隊伍在贏得兩
場遊戲之後直接崩潰連輸了三場。為什麼邱味做為替代早晨在中路的補強這事讓人們如此
印象深刻？那你覺得早晨在上路表現如何？Lupin呢？他在下路的表現有比bebe和jay的組
合好嗎？
Lilballz : Winds has a hard time playing Bo5's Chawy imo was not a upgrade to
morning, but due to player population, it was a decent move for the team.
Morning is a very good player especially in map awareness etc, and a team
player, which fits the top lane role very well. Lupin is good but overrated,
but the BeBe Jay duo lane was better.
Bo5賽程對於winds來說很困難。而我覺得邱味替代早晨並不是一個補強而是陣容上的考量
，這樣對於隊伍來說是最好的。
早晨是非常好的選手，特別是他的地圖意識，而且他是個團隊型的選手，非常適合上路。
Lupin很棒但是過譽，bebe和jay的組合比現在好。
6.For lilballz
Any chance of more sexy cosplay from you and mistake?
給球Z~
你和mistake以後還會有更性感的cosplay嗎?
Lilballz :
Tristana is cute
砲娘很可愛。
7.Just have a few questions:
1. How do you rate LMS/GPL versus other regions, specifically NA and EU?
2. How often do you scrim KR or CN teams? If often, how do those scrims
affect your international play?
3. What are some of the biggest obstacles for LMS as a league to overcome in
order to become more well-known and more talented on par with the other Asian
regions?
4. What is your opinion on imported players as a whole?
5. And finally, which place do you think MSE will take next split, and do you
think they will qualify for Worlds?
Thank you for your time and for doing this AMA!
1. 你如何評價LMS/GPL和其他區域的實力差異，特別是NA/EU?
2. 你們多常和KR/CN的隊伍團練?如果常常的話，這些訓練如何影響你們再國際比賽的表
現？
3. 對於成為一個更加知名的賽區以及向亞洲其他區域看齊，LMS目前遭遇到什麼樣的阻礙
呢？
4. 你對於外援有何看法？
5. 最後，你覺得mse下個賽季的表現會如何，有可能取得世界資格嗎？
謝謝你花時間做這個AMA!
Lilballz :
1. In this meta, LMS is definitely stronger than NA and EU, Im not saying all
LMS teams can beat EU and NA teams, but with NA and EU heavily favoring
midlane allstars, in this meta midlane allstars are having a lower impact.
Fnatic continues to be strong due to the amazing play by Huni in the top lane.
We also have opportunities that NA and EU dont have, which i feel will allow
our region to adapt quicker to meta changes, we have regular scrim opponents
against China and KR region teams.
1. KR and CN teams are in our regular pool of scrim partners, also SEA teams
on occassion, as far as impact, it allows us to see what teams from
international regions are trying in terms of meta changes
2. LMS teams need more opportunities to prove themselves on an international
stage, its already happening due to recent performances by our teams at IEM
and MSI, more opportunities will give our region more spotlight time.
3. I actually personally believe Koreans are not that much better than the
players in the any region skillwise, the main difference is competitive
mentality.
4. I see MSE entering the top 4 teams of LMS , and if players all play to
their maximum potential we have a shot for worlds. We are still a young team
that is still growing, but with time we will become a new force to be
reckoned with here in Taiwan, and soon Internationally.
1. LMS在這個META絕對比EU/NA還強，我不會說所有LMS隊伍都可以打敗EU/NA的隊伍。但
是NA/EU極度看重中路選手的發揮，而中路在這個META的影響力有限。Fnatic變強是因為
Huni在上路驚人的表現。我們也有些NA/EU所沒有的機會，這些機會讓我們賽區可以在
meta變動上調整的比EU/NA還快。我們有更多和CN/KR隊伍團練的機會。
2. KR/CN的隊伍和我們常常團練，有時候也會跟SEA隊伍。這使我們能夠觀察到國際上的
隊伍如何適應meta的轉變。
3. 其實我個人認為韓國出產的選手沒有真的比其他地區的選手還強多少。主要還是競爭
意識上的差異。
4. 我覺得MSE可以進入LMS四強。如果選手們都可以最大的發揮他們潛力我們就可以拿到
世界賽資格。我們還是個成長中的年輕隊伍，但是我們會漸漸在成為一股在台灣賽區甚至
是國際中不容忽視的力量。
8.How do you think the LMS teams will fare against international competition at
worlds?
We've seen AHQ perform well at MSI but is this the standard that can be
expected out of other teams in the region?
你覺得LMS中的隊伍在面對國際級的競爭者時可以有何表現？
我們已經看到ahq在msi中的好表現了，但是我們以這樣的標準去期待LMS中其他的隊伍嗎
？
Lilballz :
In the LMS, AHQ is solidly in the top 4 of the LMS, of the top 4 teams in the
LMS they are always capable taking games from each other, each team having
one strength or 2 that they depend on to win games, and if the meta fits the
team the best it will allow them to shine.
the rest of the teams of the LMS are becoming more competitive and are
quickly capable of beating the top4 teams, teams such as my team. I have
confidence the region is getting even more competitive due to the formal
structure set in place by Garena / Riot.
在LMS中，AHQ是無法動搖的前四強之一。而這四個隊伍都有能力互相贏得比賽，每個隊伍
都有一到兩個使他們能夠贏得比賽的方式。所以當meta最適合哪個隊伍，哪個隊伍就可以
展現實力。
而LMS中剩下的隊伍將會變得更有競爭力，很快的他們就有能力威脅強四強了，例如我的
隊伍。我有信心LMS將因為Garena/Riot建立的健全制度變的更有競爭力。
9.Did you think you would beat M5 at S2WC? In a interview with alex ich he said
that you didn't think you could 5v5 teamfight vs M5 so you used nidalee to
avoid teamfights is this correct?
你在S2世界冠軍時有覺得你們能夠打敗M5嗎？alex ich在某個訪問中提到你們不覺得你們
能夠在5v5團戰中擊敗m5，所以你們使用了奈德麗去避免團戰，是真的嗎？
Lilballz :
Yes this is correct , M5 Ban/Pick was very focused on teamfights but weaker
in lane, the strategy planned for them was to avoid team fights and set up a
gold lead and go into poke/siege later on.
這是真的。M5的B/P非常傾向團戰，但是對線弱勢。而我們的策略就是去避免團戰爆發，
建立金錢優勢，以poke的方式逼塔。
10.Hi lilballz. Tell me more about this flash out on malphite ultimate during
worlds against clg.eu I think. Did you have vision ? If you don't the
reaction time was insane, how can you do this ??!! Edit:
https://youtu.be/70hSHYuI_A0
Hi球z,告訴我更多有關世界賽中的那個對上CLG.eu的神閃石頭人大吧！
你那時候有視野嗎？如果沒有的話那那個反應時間也太變態了吧！怎麼辦到的啊？？？
Lilballz : The game was an exhibition match between CLG EU and us, about
10-15s earlier Malphite gave away his position so I knew he was around, once
I saw Kogmaw shifting up, I knew the ult was coming and I had my fingering
hovering to do the flash.
TL:DR I knew it was going to happen, I purposely baited myself so i could do
something flashy
那場比賽是我們和CLG.EU的表演賽。大概在10-15秒前石頭人暴露了他的位置，所以我知
道他在附近。當我看到記得向上走的時候，我就知道石頭人的大會來了，所以我馬上按了
閃現。
簡單來說就是我知道他會大，所以我故意用自己去bait他，然後我就可以做出這個很炫砲
的play。
11.How did it feel to win a world championship? Especially coming in as the
heavy underdogs?
Also I just wanted to let you know I stayed up cheering for you guys all
night in the finals, was the first finals for LoL I've ever watched.
拿到世界冠軍是怎樣的感覺呢？特別是比賽前公認的超級弱隊。
另外我希望讓你知道決賽那天我熬夜為你們加油了整個晚上，那是我第一次看LOL總決賽
。
Lilballz : Thank you for your support! It felt amazing, felt even better
proving the world wrong about us. We were training extremely hard prior to
worlds, 10am-12am practice schedule 6 days a week, we felt we earned it.
edited thanks justToRageatYou
謝謝你的支持！那種感覺不可思議，特別是在證明了世界將我們錯誤評價之後。我們在世
界賽前非常認真的練習從早上10點到凌晨12點，一個禮拜六天。我們感覺終於值得了！
12.1.We saw Taiwan improve after there departure from GPL , Why do you think
2.At the time of Worlds Do you think Taiwan is already better than NA & EU
and can match KR & CN ?
3.Top4 Midlaners on LMS ?
4.Do you think Season5 is almost the same as Season2 because of the tank meta
?
1. 我們看到了台灣在從GPL脫離出來之後的進步。你覺得這是為什麼呢？
2. 你覺得現在的台灣賽區是不是已經比NA/EU還好，甚至可以跟KR/CN競爭了呢？
3. LMS前四中路是？
4. 你覺得S5的META是不是跟S2相似，因為坦克崛起？
Lilballz :
1. A more structured league system with support from Garena / Riot are
extremely beneficial to teams becoming competetive
2. By worlds, I think that Taiwan can easily be competetive with KR and CN,
as long as teams stay focused, as far as EU and NA goes I think that because
they are a bit sheltered in competitive play from other regions it makes them
slower to adapt which sometimes causes them to fall behind, but its not
because they arnt trying, I can definitely see the teams attempting to make
changes which is good
3. Maple > Ximen = Chawy = Toyz , But all of them are strong in some areas
and weaker in others.
4. Still different, S2 meta was way slower in comparison to S5
1. 更健全的賽制以及Garena/Riot的協助對於我們隊伍變得更有競爭力非常有幫助。
2. 放眼世界，我覺得只要台灣隊伍繼續專注向前，絕對可以和KR/CN競爭。而EU/NA的話
，我覺得他們有一點點缺乏和其他賽區的競爭，這使得在調整和適應上有時候會比較慢。
但這並不代表他們不努力，我很確信這些隊伍都很努力嘗試讓自己變好。
3. 媽寶>西門=邱味=Toyz，不過他們各有各的強項和弱項。
4. 還是有差。S2 的節奏比S5慢。
13.From your point of view what caused TSM to have such a poor performance at
MSI when they were expected to land top 3?
你覺得為什麼原本被認為是TOP3的TSM在MSI的表現這麼差？
Lilballz :
They rely too heavily on Bjergsen's performance, in this current meta, mid
lane has less of an impact, while top lane and ad performances are what have
larger impact on game wins currently
他們太依賴鼻爾森的發揮。在這個META中mid的影響力沒那麼強了，最近top和ad的影響力
更大。
14.Do you think we'll ever see the return of champions like elise, evelynn, xin
zhao, or even amumu?
你覺得我們可以看到蜘蛛、伊芙琳、趙信和阿姆姆回歸戰場嗎？
Lilballz :
Excluding Elise , Xin Zhao, Amumu, Evelynn may return relatively soon within
this meta with either an itemization buff or a early game buff. They all have
some form of high impact ultimate, and effective wave and jungle clearing,
the main things missing may be a little utility, such as Evelynn is unable to
help botlane with a smite due to needing it for herself.
除了蜘蛛以外，趙信、阿姆姆、伊芙琳在這個meta可能會比較快回歸戰場，如果道具和前
期能力buff的話。他們都有一些影響力強的大絕以及清野能力，然而他們都有一些些缺限
。比如說伊芙琳無法用重擊幫助下路因為她自己很需要。
15.Thoughts on yoefw getting sofm?
你對於yoefw得到sofm的看法？
Lilballz :
SOFM is an extremely talented player with very similar styles to Karsa, due
to personal issues Karsa has, the addition of SOFM will only make FW
stronger, after the small amount of time needed to adapt him in and iron out
communication issues
SOFM是個非常有天分的選手，他的風格和karsa很像。由於一些Karsa的個人問題，SOFM的
補強只會讓FW更強。只要一些時間讓他調整，以及解決溝通上的問題。
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推
05/11 06:24, , 266F
05/11 06:24, 266F
推
05/11 07:00, , 267F
05/11 07:00, 267F
推
05/11 07:12, , 268F
05/11 07:12, 268F
→
05/11 07:27, , 269F
05/11 07:27, 269F
→
05/11 08:14, , 270F
05/11 08:14, 270F
推
05/11 09:11, , 271F
05/11 09:11, 271F
→
05/11 09:26, , 272F
05/11 09:26, 272F
推
05/11 10:47, , 273F
05/11 10:47, 273F
推
05/11 12:41, , 274F
05/11 12:41, 274F
推
05/12 01:05, , 275F
05/12 01:05, 275F
推
05/13 21:12, , 276F
05/13 21:12, 276F
推
05/13 23:26, , 277F
05/13 23:26, 277F
噓
05/16 12:23, , 278F
05/16 12:23, 278F
→
05/16 12:23, , 279F
05/16 12:23, 279F
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