[外絮] IEM 位置分析，ADC消失

看板LoL作者j33669時間10年前 (2015/03/13 19:29)推噓21(28推 7噓 9→)

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原文 http://goo.gl/FLPyeV 1.PraY - GE Tigers 2.Forg1ven - SK Gaming 3.NL - Yoe Flash Wolves 4.P1noy - Gambit Gaming 5.Sneaky - Cloud 9 6.Space - CJ Entus 7.Wildturtle - Team Solomid 8.Styz - Team WE PraY - GE Tigers The amount that PraY has looked like a new man on GE Tigers is really a testament to the journey his career has become. If I were to pick who I think the MVP of the tournament would be, before the tournament starts I think it would be PraY. I think the game where he single handily stopped the enemy team from taking a Baron after a team fight GE lost, it was cemented for me just how much of a change the PraY of last year had grown into the PraY we see now. Also the man has an insane KDA with the next highest in his position in Korea being almost 4 points lower. PraY is a kill hungry play maker who I think outclasses the competition. 加入GE Tigers對於PraY的生涯是個考驗，如果要在本次IEM選出一個MVP或許就是PraY了他以一己之力在失敗的會戰後阻止對面拿巴龍的技術鞏固了他在我心中的地位再過去的一年中PraY改變了很多成為現在我們看到的他，此外他的誇張的kda 在韓國聯賽中adc第二高的也差了他快4分，PraY是飢渴的殺戮者，遠超於本次大賽的對手 Forg1ven - SK Gaming It's been a very long road for Forg1ven to get to the position he is in now, he is sitting at the top of the EU LCS. The thing I think Forg1ven brings to the table more than anyone else in this tournament is one being one of the best lane adc's I've seen. The reason I want to highlight that is because one of the primary reasons Forg1ven is so strong and SK wins is that he regularly comes out of the lane phase getting his tower, possibly a kill or two and is 20 CS up on the enemy adc. This translates to him being able get items and transform into an insane source of damage for his team. The results also show, with Forg1ven currently holding the highest KDA and GPM he is a player that is immaculate at just outperforming the competition. Picking the rest of this list was super difficult, but Forg1ven as my second spot was a no brainer. 對於Forg1ven來說，到現在這個位置他經歷了一條漫長的路，目前在EU區排名第一，以一個最棒的ADC而言，他帶給隊伍的幫助超過了其他對手。我特地提出的原因是Forg1ven十分強大，在對線期時通常可以殺個一兩個頭順便領先20cs 使得他能夠將經濟轉成重要的裝備，提供大量的傷害。此外，Forg1ven有著最高的kda以及gpm，完美的勝過對手，這個排名的後半很難選但是將Forg1ven排在第二是毋庸置疑的 NL - Yoe Flash Wolves \NL/\閃電狼/\NL/\閃電狼/\NL/\閃電狼/\NL/\閃電狼/\NL/\閃電狼/\NL/\閃電狼/ It may seem odd to people who are not familiar with the the LMS region but NL has shown to be one of the most consistent ADC's in the league. NL has grown this split into one of the better positional ADCs, since they have play makers like Maple, Karsa, and Steak NL's entire style is stay in the back and be a consistent source of damage while other teammates absorb cool downs. One of the other primary reasons I have NL so high on my list also illustrates a problem I had when making this list. When I looked at the list of players at large the ADC position felt the most to be desired. Most of the ADC's on this list past NL have shown large amounts of inconsistency and sometimes some bad levels o play. I don't want to take anything away from NL, he is a great player, but ordering the rest of this list revealed a real problem I felt when it came to this position. 把NL排在這裡看起來有點奇怪，特別是大家跟LMS不熟的狀況下，但是NL展現出他在LMS 中視最穩定的adc之一。NL已經成長一個更加優秀的ADC，特別是有楓棠、咖薩跟牛排等play maker，NL的風格就是穩穩的站在後排，穩定的輸出傷害，讓前排的隊友坦並且等待cc技能cd。另一個我將他排在這邊的主因是因為adc通常背負著隊友的期待，過去的NL有一定的不穩定性，有時候也會有銅學級的Play。但是現在他已經成長。將他排在這邊也點出一個問題就是這個名單很難排序lol P1noy - Gambit Gaming P1noy is one of the newest players on Gambit gaming, and I think he's done a great job at slotting himself into the Gambit style of play. P1noy had his first showing at the IEM Gambit won and established himself with Edward as a super aggressive bot lane. After a very hyped showing at IEM P1noy took a slump in quality of play. Sometimes his very aggressive play style would backfire on him and he'd get ganked. However recently he's really shown up in the last few weeks and the aggression has paid off. We'll see if the P1noy we've seen in the last few weeks is the one that has shown up because I do think P1noy has the potential to be one of the best ADC's at this tournament. P1noy是本季新來的同學，我認為他十分融入gmb的風格。在第一次的IEM亮相中他跟Edward建立了超級激進的風格。但在首戰之後，他的表現明顯下滑，有時候超激進的風格是把雙面刃，導致容易被gank，然而最近幾周他的激進風格終於有所回報依據最近幾周的表現，我認為本次大賽P1noy有成為本屆最佳ADC的潛力。 Sneaky - Cloud 9 If you were to point a gun at my head and ask me to tell you who the best player on Cloud 9 will be at this tournament, my money would be placed on Sneaky. It's no secret that Cloud 9 has not looked to form this split and even when they had a brief few weeks of hard and fast climbing they've continued to show signs of weakness from almost all of their positions. Sneaky however is probably the exception. This split he's really evolved into a play making hard carry that Cloud 9 needs and has been putting up fantastic numbers, even when Cloud 9 lose. His first match will be against PraY, the player I think is the best at this tournament, but Sneaky has shown that he can hold his own against better bot lanes. 如果你拿槍指著我的頭問我說C9最強的選手是誰，我會把我的錢全部壓在Sneaky身上。 C9表現的不佳已經不是祕密，雖然最近幾周爬了不少名次，但是他們暴露了不少缺點。然而Sneaky卻是例外，他強大的Carry能力讓他的fantastic分數上升不少，即使是輸掉的比賽。第一場將會碰上PraY，本次我認為最強的選手，但是Sneaky已經證明過即使面對更強的選手他仍然能夠穩住。 Space - CJ Entus It's frustrating because about 5 weeks ago I would have but Space as third on my list, because this was when CJ was on a hot winning streak and Space was looking like a new man. But now Space is back to always being near the bottom of the ADC KDA standings and in game it almost looks like he is having little impact, then he'll turn in a game like he had last week and I throw my hands in the air. I have Space right in the middle because I can't predict which space will show up and whether him and MadLife will suddenly turn it on and go crazy in the bot lane. For CJ's sake let's hope Space finds whatever it is that let him beat SKT and not the team that had problems. 如果5周前我會把Space排在第三，這挺令人難過的。因為當CJ正在一波連勝，但是 Space卻打的像是新來的菜鳥。不過最近Space雖然回到了ADC位中倒數的kda排名，而且對於比賽的影響看起來也不大但是卻能夠突然打出令人雙手高舉的play，我將他放在中段的排名因為我不確定究竟這次Space到底骰到pro還是bro，他跟咩賴有時會突然非常專注，大殺特殺。對於CJ來說，希望他能夠回穩，拿出打敗SKT的水準。 WildTurtle - Team Solomid 把野龜排在這麼後面不會被tsm教徒追殺嗎lol Technically speaking I think Wildturtle might be above some of the players on this list, but it's the fault in his play style that brings him so low on this list. Often times during the end of TSM games, especially when they win Wildturtle usually puts up very good numbers and has a more than decent KDA. What the numbers doesn't show is how often Wildturtle tries to make solo plays by jumping in with Tristana, but winds up dying, or lashing into get 1 kill on a low health target, get's burst down ahead of his team and throws team fights. We'll see if that because he is at a tournament where he is not at the top, if those mispositionings will cause TSM to drop games. 技術上而言我想或許他可能比某些更高排名的選手還優秀，但是他的風格導致了他的排名落後。多數tsm的比賽後期，特別是領先的時候，野龜能夠有非常優秀的表現有著比平常更好的kda。但是有時候會出現小隻泡娘向前衝的行動，然後掛掉，頂多外帶一個快死的的敵人，然後throw掉整個會戰。本次大賽中他並不是特別突出的adc，這是否會影響tsm的表現還有待觀察。 Styz - Team WE I'm going to say this upfront, this entire section might be invalid by the time I post this. It's been almost all but confirmed that Mystic, who is currently on WE Academy, formerly of Jin Air fame will at some point be replacing him on WE. Mystic has even been taking pictures and has shown to be at IEM, but as far as I know, Styz is on the roster list. So I wanted to spend time comparing the two and what I expect to see. What we've seen from Styz is that he is at best a passable ADC, but when you live in a region where you probably have the best ADC's per team he tends to look very poor. What he does have over Mystic is time, he's been in that bot lane with YuZhe, so even if Mystic probably being the better player overall he may falter a bit with not having that synergy. If I had to give a gut reaction to Mystic being on this list, based on his performance from when he was on Jin Air, I would slot him in the 3-4 spot. 開宗明義的說，這整段或許會是廢話。因為有乳摸傳出Styz將會被前Jin Air的adc Mtstic取代，Mystic甚至已經有照片出現在iem的名單了，但目前為止Styz還是在名單中我打算比較一下這兩位。在一個adc高手如雲的中國區，Styz頂多就是個湊合著用的所以看起來有點悲劇。唯一勝過Mystic的點只有跟sup比較熟而已。所以Mystic可能僅僅再跟sup的配合度上這一點輸給Styz，如果要排Mystic的話以他身為前Jin Air 的adc，我大概會排在第3～4名。 ------------------------ we的ad被各種酸rrrrr 上路的有人翻譯過了，中路跟JG的我不知道這個作者有沒有寫我自己是沒有找到，如果有人找到而且想看的話，可以提供網址給我，我可以翻一下 -- ＠Windows Live Examiner ╳ ▇ 您的狀態設為「逃避現實」，您可以前往參加咪挺，但教授將知道您完全沒念。 ▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ ▁▁▁▁▁ ▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ ▏ 繼續咪挺(C) ▏ ▏崩潰(H) ▏ ▏ 國軍骯賴(G) ▏ ψegoweaver▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ ▇▇▇▇▇ ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ ψflylitlig -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.115.221.222 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1426246182.A.1FA.html

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