Re: [轉錄][外絮] 關於Kobe關鍵時刻表現的迷思

看板Lakers作者 (Mr.children)時間13年前 (2011/01/30 18:50), 編輯推噓6(8221)
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昨天看完那篇文章 本來想去找看看1助攻是怎麼回事 可是那份統計數字的年份 看來是很龐大的資料 放棄... 回應Abbott那篇文裡面解釋了這個部分 我們在這幾年看到的那些進球,助攻 Abbott不算(or沒有算) 資料就統計到1助攻 後面的11/26 + 3助攻等於Abbott的誤會一場~? 他拿了一份不對(不完整)的數據 來質疑Kobe關鍵時刻的能力 這無所謂 Kobe最後一擊的命中率不高 也不是最近才有人在酸的 問題是他又加了"1"助攻來炒冷飯 用那"1"個助攻來強調Kobe就是個投不進又愛自幹的獨王 不知道他是不小心忽略了後面的數字 還是他就是個Kobe hater?! (辜一下就知道答案了...) 當然就算加上那11顆進球 Kobe的命中率也不會是第一 在這個條件設定下所得出的數據 結果就是這樣 以這份數據來提出Kobe isn't the king of crunch time的質疑是合理的 命中率就是鐵一般的事實擺在那 當然可以用這個來說Kobe不是NBA最好的關鍵先生 而另一個事實... Dec. 27, 1999: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (game-winning FTs w/ 8 secs) May. 09, 1999: Lakers 101 - Rockets 100 (PO, game-winning FTs w/ 5 secs) Nov. 16, 2000: Lakers 112 - Kings 110 (OT, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, jumper w/ 24 secs) May. 10, 2000: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (PO, jumper over Jason Kidd w/ 2 secs) Jun. 14, 2000: Lakers 120 - Pacers 118 (PO, offensive-rebound, put-back w/ 5 secs) Feb. 07, 2001: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 2 secs) Feb. 13, 2001: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT, layup over Kenyon Martin w/ 4 secs) Jan. 02, 2002: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (offensive-rebound, jumper w/ 55 secs) Feb. 22, 2002: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (buzzer beater, jumper over George Lynch) May. 12, 2002: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (PO, offensive-rebound, put-back w/ 5 secs) Mar. 24, 2002: Lakers 97 - Kings 96 (jumper over Doug Christie w/ 36 secs) Dec. 06, 2002: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (turn-around jumper w/ 8 secs) Dec. 22, 2002: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (layup over Mo Peterson w/ 33 secs) Apr. 04, 2003: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater, jumper over Shane Battier) Apr. 06, 2003: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (OT, game-tying jumper for OT, jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 28 sec) Dec. 19, 2003: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (buzzer beater, fade-away over Jon Barry) Feb. 17, 2004: Lakers 89 - Blazers 86 (left-handed layup w/ 31 secs) Mar. 21, 2004: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT, jumper over Keith Van Horn w/ 25 sec) Apr. 14, 2004: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT buzzer beater, game-tying 3-pointer around Ruben Patterson for OT, fall-away 3-pointer over Theo Ratliff) Apr. 25, 2004: Lakers 92 - Rockets 88 (PO, layup over Cuttino Mobley w/ 40 secs) Mar. 03, 2004: Lakers 96 - Rockets 93 (jumper over Yao Ming w/ 32 secs) Mar. 12, 2005: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (jumper over Keith Bogans w/ 1 secs) Nov. 02, 2005: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT, jumper over Eduardo Najera w/ 1 secs) Dec. 04, 2005: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (game-winning FTs w/ 7 secs) Jan. 07, 2006: Lakers 112 - Clippers 109 (tear-drop over Elton Brand w/ 11 secs) Jan. 12, 2006: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (3-straight jumpers over Lebron James w/ 8 secs) Apr. 30, 2006: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (PO, OT buzzer beater, game-tying tear-drop around Boris Diaw for OT, jumper over Boris Diaw) Jan. 14, 2008: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT, jumper over Jeff Green w/ 4 secs) May. 21, 2008: Lakers 89 - Spurs 85 (PO, jumper over Bruce Bowen w/ 23 secs) Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jarrett Jack w/ 3 secs) Jan. 13, 2009: Lakers 105 - Rockets 100 (3-pointer over Shane Battier w/ 27 secs) Dec. 04, 2009: Lakers 108 - Heat 107 (buzzer beater, 3-pointer over Dwayne Wade) Dec. 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106 (OT buzzer beater, jumper over Charlie Bell) Jan. 01, 2010: Lakers 109 - Kings 108 (buzzer beater, corner 3-pointer) Jan. 13, 2010: Lakers 100 - Mavericks 95 (jumper over Josh Howard w/ 28 secs) Jan. 31, 2010: Lakers 90 - Celtics 89 (jumper over Ray Allen w/ 7 secs) Feb. 23, 2010: Lakers 99 - Grizzlies 98 (3-pointer over Rudy Gay w/ 4 secs) Mar. 09, 2010: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (jumper over Antoine Wright w/ 1 secs) 這就是Kobe Bryant... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.137.145.230

01/30 18:51, , 1F
跟過湖人比賽,你會清楚這就是他,所以要我不挺他還真難。
01/30 18:51, 1F

01/30 18:51, , 2F
我先噓原文作者 表達我的不滿
01/30 18:51, 2F

01/30 18:51, , 3F
等下推你的分析!
01/30 18:51, 3F

01/30 18:54, , 4F
推~這就是Kobe Bryant
01/30 18:54, 4F

01/30 18:55, , 5F
讚!
01/30 18:55, 5F
※ 編輯: derwy 來自: 114.137.145.230 (01/30 19:06)

01/30 19:04, , 6F
反正這世界上有很多閒人就要想盡方法來貶低kobe
01/30 19:04, 6F

01/30 19:24, , 7F
吵一吵增加知名度也不錯拉(誤)
01/30 19:24, 7F

01/30 19:42, , 8F
這就是Kobe Bryant 推~~~~~~~~
01/30 19:42, 8F

01/30 20:34, , 9F
38次投進關鍵球? 這是個了不得的數字啊
01/30 20:34, 9F

01/30 21:18, , 10F
07竟然沒有@@
01/30 21:18, 10F

01/30 21:31, , 11F
因為07很少贏球啊(淚奔.....)
01/30 21:31, 11F

01/30 21:32, , 12F
其實這個系列文我連推文都沒什麼參與過 因為我覺得拿
01/30 21:32, 12F

01/30 21:32, , 13F
數據(管他什麼狗屁數據)來討論是不是關鍵時刻之王很無
01/30 21:32, 13F

01/30 21:33, , 14F
意義 就像有個酸民推過:"湖迷大絕:有種不要守KB"
01/30 21:33, 14F

01/30 21:33, , 15F
我也真的覺得就是這樣 不可能有哪個教練會說"哦!原來
01/30 21:33, 15F

01/30 21:34, , 16F
kb關鍵時刻的準度不過一般 不用特別包夾他"
01/30 21:34, 16F

01/30 21:35, , 17F
KB整體在第四節跟關鍵時刻的表現都是高出一般人許多的
01/30 21:35, 17F

01/30 21:36, , 18F
我想這是所有教練跟經理人的共識- -+
01/30 21:36, 18F

01/30 22:58, , 19F
應該很少有球隊關鍵時刻不包LBJ、甜瓜、Dirk
01/30 22:58, 19F

01/30 22:59, , 20F
反正最強那個非禁區球員會被堵啦
01/30 22:59, 20F

01/30 23:46, , 21F
為什麼只有一助攻?我記得明明就很多次阿~
01/30 23:46, 21F

01/30 23:48, , 22F
1.00年 kobe to shaq 2.09年 kobe to gasol
01/30 23:48, 22F

01/30 23:48, , 23F
3. 去年 冠軍賽最後一場 kobe to artest for 3333333333
01/30 23:48, 23F

01/30 23:48, , 24F
最好是只有一個拉 你哪來的數據?
01/30 23:48, 24F

01/30 23:50, , 25F
上面那幾球都在第四節最後五分鐘以內 只有一助攻?
01/30 23:50, 25F

01/30 23:52, , 26F
孩子...你累了嗎...= =
01/30 23:52, 26F

01/31 00:23, , 27F
那篇就剛好拿了份82game統計黑暗年代的數據-_-
01/31 00:23, 27F

08/08 13:16, , 28F
1.00年 kobe https://muxiv.com
08/08 13:16, 28F

09/11 02:28, , 29F
推~這就是Kobe B https://daxiv.com
09/11 02:28, 29F

09/11 05:05, , 30F
等下推你的分析! https://daxiv.com
09/11 05:05, 30F

12/11 19:56, 5年前 , 31F
38次投進關鍵球? 這 https://noxiv.com
12/11 19:56, 31F
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