[問題] 老舊公寓公用大門通行之權利問題
大家好
請教一下
我家為雙併舊公寓之一樓其中一側,近期2F~5F住戶換中間樓梯的大門鎖
其中一戶主張說不給我們一樓住戶鑰匙,並說服其他住戶喬好
另一側1F住戶又是沒有上頂樓的習慣,所以孤軍無援
我們家過去數十年都會經由一樓大門經由公用樓梯上頂樓曬棉被
住戶來去更迭後比較沒有以前的舊住戶慷慨也比較不熟
又,日前五樓(即頂樓下一樓)天花板滲水,本來多數住戶不願出錢,
後來苦主把一些住戶告上法院
法院判決應該由全棟負擔(但102年的判決書已丟失)
我查了一下網路, 頂樓屬於公共空間為全棟住戶所持有,故我們應也有使用權
請問我該如何以相關法條與住戶們溝通與維護權利
懇求各位先進指教
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※ 編輯: chobittcu (111.255.194.148), 05/14/2017 23:51:34
※ 編輯: chobittcu (153.223.202.204), 05/15/2017 00:09:54
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05/15 00:36, , 1F
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05/15 00:48, , 2F
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05/15 01:10, , 3F
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05/15 01:10, , 4F
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05/15 01:11, , 5F
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05/16 12:57, , 30F
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05/16 21:48, , 39F
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05/16 21:50, , 41F
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05/16 21:52, , 44F
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05/16 21:52, , 46F
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※ 編輯: chobittcu (111.254.72.172), 05/18/2017 22:47:18
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是你最懂,搞得好像住我們樓上一樣
我們一樓住戶是住最久的沒錯,唯一的過節只有五樓修繕那一次,5樓那位屋主現在也
賣給下一個人了,提議不給我們鑰匙的是2F,是要試煉三小
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05/19 09:07, , 83F
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05/19 09:08, , 84F
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05/19 09:08, , 85F
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05/19 09:08, , 86F
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你是不是搞錯什麼,我只是說有沒有相關法律在跟他們爭取的時候可以用
從來沒有說要告人,,你會不會想得太極端
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05/19 09:09, , 87F
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05/19 09:09, , 88F
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05/19 09:10, , 89F
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05/19 21:17, , 90F
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05/19 21:17, , 91F
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05/19 21:17, , 92F
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05/19 21:17, , 93F
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05/19 21:17, , 94F
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有一位網友回信給我,我想在「完全不了解我們家的狀況」之前
就算沒有直接跟我說大概我們的權利在哪條法律上,但這是比較客觀的回應
請收起您的臆測,法界的人不是這樣解決法律問題的吧?
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私下無法溝通找里長調解看看
又無法解決的話
可以先寄存證信函請對方在幾日內停止你使用樓梯和頂樓的行為
如果對方置之不理則可能要上法院訴訟解決
公寓的使用除了有共有部分的的權利外
也必須負擔例如維修費用等義務
這方面找律師研議會較妥適"
※ 編輯: chobittcu (122.121.203.156), 05/29/2017 23:10:48
不過最後還是很感謝各位的建議與討論,我自己有找到公寓大廈管理條例第二章第7條
我去跟我們不知道哪裡有什麼誤會(?)的住戶說說看
※ 編輯: chobittcu (122.121.203.156), 05/29/2017 23:38:52
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