Re: [討論] FOX報導拜登得票來自自動加票程式漏洞

看板HatePolitics作者 (林北鄉長退團長退B86T)時間3年前 (2020/11/07 15:12), 編輯推噓7(7012)
留言19則, 5人參與, 3年前最新討論串16/17 (看更多)
※ 引述《g9122xj (g9122xj)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《coolbaby (coolbaby)》之銘言 : : ※ 引述《eierom (非)》之銘言: : : : ※ 引述 《markban》 之銘言: : : : : 剛才朋友貼給我的 : : : : https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841 : : : : FOX新聞報導,有影片 : : : : Robby Starbuck : : : : @robbystarbuck : : : : One Michigan county clerk caught a glitch in tabulation software so th : ey h : : and : : : : counted votes and found the glitch caused 6,000 votes to go to Biden + : : : : Democrats that were meant for Trump and Republicans. 47 MI counties us : ed t : : his : : : : software. All must check now! : : : : 點進去有新聞影片 : : : : 密西根州的程式有重大漏洞 : : : : 拜登可以得到六千票X47次的自動加票 : : : : 看來密西根州要重驗了 : : : : 其他州該不會也= = : : : 這個報導是真的,因為軟體公司本身也有承認 : : : 錯誤說明有貼公告出來,不過比較神奇的是為 : : : 何這個霸克是拜登自動變多川普自動變少,就 : : : 很引人遐想了,總之這個是可以提告的證據之 : : : 一,之後誰當選還很難說 : : Michigan 官方回應 : : https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-93094-544676--,00.html : : False claims from Ronna McDaniel have no merit : : NOVEMBER 6, 2020 : : In response to the false claims made by Republican National Committee chai : rwom : : an Ronna McDaniel, the Michigan Department of State issues the following s : tate : : ments of fact: : : Michigan’s elections were conducted fairly, effectively and transparently : and : : are an accurate reflection of the will of Michigan voters. : : The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a res : ult : : of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk. The equipment : and : : software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. Howe : ver, : : the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting : mac : : hine data and report unofficial results. : : Like many counties in Michigan, Antrim County uses the Dominion Voting Sys : tems : : election management system and voting machines (ballot tabulators.) The co : unt : : y receives programming support from Election Source. Tabulators are progra : mmed : : to scan hand marked, paper ballots. When machines are finished scanning th : e b : : allots, the paper ballots are retained and a totals tape showing the numbe : r of : : votes for each candidate in each race is printed from the machine. : : In order to report unofficial results, county clerks use election manageme : nt s : : ystem software to combine the electronic totals from tabulators and submit : a r : : eport of unofficial results. Because the clerk did not update software, ev : en t : : hough the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate res : ults : : were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results. : : The correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabula : tor : : totals tape and on the ballots themselves. Even if the error in the report : ed u : : nofficial results had not been quickly noticed, it would have been identif : ied : : during the county canvass. Boards of County Canvassers, which are composed : of : : 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans, review the printed totals tape from each ta : bula : : tor during the canvass to verify the reported vote totals are correct. : : The software did not cause a misallocation of votes; it was a result of us : er h : : uman error. Even when human error occurs, it is caught during county canva : sses. : : It is also completely false that the county had to or will have to hand co : unt : : all their ballots. The ballots were properly counted by the tabulators. Th : e co : : unty had to review the printed tabulator results from each precinct, not e : ach : : individual ballot. : : As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mist : ake : : and did not affect any actual vote totals. Election clerks work extremely : hard : : and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes mak : e m : : istakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes : can : : be caught and corrected. : : 這個所謂的bug/人為疏失只有影響非正式計票結果,並未影響正式計票。 : : 此外,選票統計審核委員(共和黨與民主黨各兩名)也確認該錯誤並未影響正式總計 : 票結 : : 果。 : : ----- : : Sent from JPTT on my iPad : 這篇的留言高潮什麼啊?一直浮木浮木的 : 就是計票方式的確有問題,所以議員的翻盤是呈現的數字與實際有誤差 : 他們現在說不影響結果有屁用啊 : 當然要修正bug,承認錯誤啊 : 搞的亂七八糟的,不被信任才是正常的好不好? : 想一下台灣如果發生這種事,肯定沒有任何一個人會相信選務負責人之後的屁話吧? : 結果現在一堆說浮木浮木的,一堆突然跑進來的智障 我也是想問一下4%文組仔, 雖然說別人家選總統,誰上都不關我們家的事,結果也大致底定。 但4%文組是不是教導一下,在何種情況下,會有一行程式讓加總計算多6000,然後是隨便一個4%理組debug跟測試多了6000測不出來,需要到選前一天再更新,還有可能讓更新不完整散布的? 我猜這個bug的function name叫iVoteYou6000()信不信 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.250.124.167 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1604733139.A.33B.html

11/07 15:18, 3年前 , 1F
推 以免別人說我看不懂
11/07 15:18, 1F

11/07 15:28, 3年前 , 2F
推 雖然看不懂
11/07 15:28, 2F

11/07 15:46, 3年前 , 3F
一縣差6000 就判別式問題阿,和填考試卡一樣塗太淺的
11/07 15:46, 3F

11/07 15:46, 3年前 , 4F
扣掉,只不過手癢都拿來驗投川普的合法
11/07 15:46, 4F

11/07 15:47, 3年前 , 5F
不就這樣? 理論上可能的方法還有很多
11/07 15:47, 5F

11/07 15:50, 3年前 , 6F
如果說有影響兩人一正一負票數就是字元位,點陣位數判
11/07 15:50, 6F

11/07 15:50, 3年前 , 7F
別問題
11/07 15:50, 7F

11/07 15:52, 3年前 , 8F
只要你塗的位子不好 就會有 沒寫好的例外處理發生
11/07 15:52, 8F

11/07 15:53, 3年前 , 9F
五分鐘內想到的可能
11/07 15:53, 9F

11/07 15:54, 3年前 , 10F
或是紙卡大小有問題
11/07 15:54, 10F

11/07 15:55, 3年前 , 11F
這種驗票機不太可能用新演算判斷的,大概需要人工修
11/07 15:55, 11F

11/07 15:55, 3年前 , 12F
11/07 15:55, 12F

11/07 16:20, 3年前 , 13F
塗太淺判決有問題 會讓總票數增加嗎? 修正完總票數變少了
11/07 16:20, 13F

11/07 21:56, 3年前 , 14F
來回1萬2千票
11/07 21:56, 14F

11/07 21:56, 3年前 , 15F
重複驗證程序問題吧,錯誤資料沒砍除。
11/07 21:56, 15F

11/07 21:56, 3年前 , 16F
應該不只這個
11/07 21:56, 16F

11/07 21:57, 3年前 , 17F
一票2計在你沒把各統計列出來之前是有可能的
11/07 21:57, 17F

11/07 22:00, 3年前 , 18F
這種東西沒辦法完全“純”用自動化去節省人力的,外
11/07 22:00, 18F

11/07 22:00, 3年前 , 19F
部可能偷搞的做法太多。重點在監管
11/07 22:00, 19F
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