Re: [新聞] 蘋果告知AppleTV節目製作人別激怒中國已回收

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我來隨便翻翻一下 NYT其實上周就講過一件事情了: "當你選擇進入中國市場時，就代表了你放棄了某部分的道德" 所以基本上只要進入中國市場要提完全站著掙錢，不用自欺欺人了就算是一線歐美日商進入中國市場，你都不可能不做出一些選擇只是蘋果太香，抵致不下去對吧? (更甭提某些台灣企業進去中國市場要付出多少代價了，你認為郭董會被捏在手上，那些比富士康還沒競爭力的企業在中國市場大概是被捏到爛了) 這世界，永遠是灰色比純粹的黑白還多抵制不要雙標，不然會讓自己看起來很笨 ※ 引述《hugh509 ((0_ 0))》之銘言： : buzzfeednews : Apple Told Some Apple TV+ Show Developers Not To Anger China : Reporter:Alex Kantrowitz Editor:John Paczkowski : “Chinese netizens hail Apple’s removal of app that aids HK rioters." : That was how the Global Times, a Chinese Communist Party outlet, covered Apple : ’s removal of HKmap.live, an app that helped Hong Kong protesters track : police, from the iOS App Store. It was emblematic of the adulatory coverage : news outlets controlled by the Chinese government have bestowed on Apple this : week. 簡述本周蘋果因為中國政府運用環球時報社論的靠杯，所以把香港抗議者app下架 : “Apple highly values the Chinese market and removing the controversial app : is a smart move,” an analyst said in the article, driving home the party’s : approval. 分析師表示，水果店對於中國市場是極度重視的，且認為下架該APP是明智之舉 : In the People’s Daily, the Chinese Communist Party's official newspaper, the : story “Apple removes app which helped HK rioters elude police” was the : business section’s most read story Friday. 中國官方媒體人民日報發布水果下架APP的新聞，成為周五當天點閱率最高消息 (意思是水果成為"美國又跪了的宣傳之一) : Apple’s recent actions in China are a continuation of the company’s : years-long practice of appeasing Beijing. To do business in China, the : company adopts to local dictates, distasteful as they may be to its CEO Tim : Cook, an outspoken gay rights advocate and privacy crusader. It's an ironic : inversion of a longstanding argument in the West that by bringing China into : the world trade system, the country would adopt western values. Instead, : China is asking tech companies to adopt its values — and Apple is willing to : pay that price. 水果店長期以來對中國的策略就是順從(跪舔)，雖然這對於Cook來說是諷刺的 Cook一直將同性戀人權和隱私權掛在嘴邊，可是水果都是照著中國價值在走西方國家長期認為將中國納入經濟圈可以促使中國接受西方價值觀事實上是這些科技公司都被要求付出代價才能進入中國市場 : In early 2018 as development on Apple’s slate of exclusive Apple TV+ : programming was underway, the company’s leadership gave guidance to the : creators of some of those shows to avoid portraying China in a poor light, : BuzzFeed News has learned. Sources in position to know said the instruction : was communicated by Eddy Cue, Apple’s SVP of internet software and services, : and Morgan Wandell, its head of international content development. It was : part of Apple's ongoing efforts to remain in China’s good graces after a : 2016 incident in which Beijing shut down Apple’s iBooks Store and iTunes : Movies six months after they debuted in the country. 主要是2018年，水果店開始對TV+一些節目創作進行"指導" 這個指令據說是來自於SVP Eddy Cue和國際業務開發負責人Morgan Wandell下達 (兩者應該都是直接匯報給Cook) 2016年事件後，蘋果盡力維持中國價值 : A spokesperson for Apple declined comment. : "They all do it. They have to if they want to play in that market." : Apple’s tip toeing around the Chinese government isn’t unusual in : Hollywood. It’s an accepted practice. "They all do it," one showrunner who : was not affiliated with Apple told BuzzFeed News. "They have to if they want : to play in that market. And they all want to play in that market. Who : wouldn't?" 大意是說: 要進入中國市場大家都必須這麼做的，好來屋更是如此 (看看超級英雄系列多賣座阿) : For Apple, which is in many ways already playing in that market and reliant : on China for tens of billions in annual sales and the manufacture of the : hundreds of millions of iPhones it sells around the world each year, it is : particularly important to avoid running afoul of Chinese government. And as we : ’ve seen over the past week, it is particularly vigilant about apps. : Developers told BuzzFeed News the incidents are hardly anomalies. 大意是水果店確實得到成功，同時他們在敏感時刻對於APP審核更嚴謹 : “We just get a phone call from Apple and they say ‘We just got a call from : the Chinese government’ and five minutes later our app is off the App Store, : ” one US technology executive told BuzzFeed News. “It’s not a line of : communication that would be open to any discussion.” : “They have so much market power in general and they wield that pretty : indiscriminately,” the US technology executive said of Apple. : The removal of HKmap.live was one of a series of actions Apple took at China’ : s instigation in the past week. Apple removed the Quartz app from its app : store in China — “Presumably because of the excellent work our team in Hong : Kong has been doing covering the protests,” Quartz technology editor Mike : Murphy said — and removed the Taiwan flag emoji for iOS users in Hong Kong. 水果店的手段非常強硬，下架HKmap.live只是其中一項另外一個是蘋果移除中國的Quartz支援，以及移除香港地區台灣國旗emoji : These were hardly the first of their kind. In the second half of 2018, Apple : challenged or rejected just two of 56 app takedown requests from China, : removing 517 apps at the government’s behest, according to the company’s : transparency report. Apple said the vast majority of these apps were for porn : and gambling, but it has also removed an unspecified number of virtual : private networking and news apps. Apple provided customer data to the Chinese : government 96% of the time when it asked about a device, and 98% of the time : when it asked about an account. In the US, those numbers were around 80% and : the US government did not make any app removal requests. 其實水果店只是最近才被注意到 2018下半年，水果店收到56個中國政府的下架要求只拒絕或質疑了其中2個app 同時刪除了來自政府指示的517個app，但水果表示其中多數涉及賭博和色情水果店在提供中國政府資訊方面接受中國政府提供設備資訊要求有96% 接受中國政府提供帳戶資訊要求有98% 而在美國大概只有80%，同時美國政府沒要求任何APP下架 : In September, Apple seemed to brush off the seriousness of an exploit attack : directed at the Uighur ethnic minority. “The sophisticated attack was : narrowly focused, not a broad-based exploit of iPhones ‘en masse,’” Apple : said in a blog post acknowledging the attack. “The attack affected fewer : than a dozen websites that focus on content related to the Uighur community.” : The blog post infuriated critics, who called out Apple’s appeasement of the : Chinese government and seemingly callous attitude toward the plight of the : Uighurs. “Apple's response to this massive hack of iPhones is 'don't worry, : it only affected the Uighur community'” Matt Stoller, a fellow at the Open : Markets Institute, said at the time. “WTF,” Stoller added. 九月時，蘋果表示有個漏洞只影響了維吾爾族，並表示沒事兒，只有少數人受到攻擊 : In 2018, the iPhone maker placed its iCloud storage and cryptographic keys : for Chinese users in China, giving the government easier access to its : customers’ data than when it was stored in the US. The company has also : disappeared a song about Tiananmen Square from Apple Music in China and : removed the New York Times app in the country. : "Given how authentically good Apple is at protecting user privacy, it's very : dismaying to see it doing the wrong thing in other areas." : “Given how authentically good Apple is at protecting user privacy, it's very : dismaying to see it doing the wrong thing in other areas, especially its : relationship with the [Chinese Communist Party],” one former Apple employee : told BuzzFeed News. 水果店在中國的iCloud是能讓中國政府隨時訪問內容的同時還刪除了一首天安門的歌曲和NYT app 一位前水果行員工表示遺憾 : Apple is not the only US institution to run into controversy trying to : maintain its values while remaining in the Chinese government’s good graces. : The National Basketball Association incurred China’s ire when Houston : Rockets general manager Daryl Morey tweeted in support of the Hong Kong : protesters this month. Known for their outspokenness, the NBA’s stars : largely stayed mum on the issue, a reporter was shut down when asking about : it, and fans were kicked out of arenas for bringing in messaging supporting : the protests. Google, meanwhile, removed a game in which users could play as : Hong Kong protesters from its Play Store. And game maker Blizzard faced a : boycott after it suspended a player who supported Hong Kong protesters. : When Tim Cook tried to explain away its actions this week by saying : protesters were using HKmap.live to “maliciously to target individual : officers for violence” without providing evidence, even longtime Apple : observer and blogger John Gruber, couldn’t stomach it. 其實不只有水果跪舔，NBA、Google也都是跪舔行列中 : “I can’t recall an Apple memo or statement that crumbles so quickly under : scrutiny,” Gruber wrote. “For a company that usually measures umpteen times : before cutting anything, it’s both sad and startling.” : 蘋果除了應中國政府要求 : 刪除了爭議應用程式，用以通過商業批准 : 在2018年初蘋果獨家線上串流節目製作中 : 部分製作人被蘋果高級主管告知 : 避免中國刻板印象，維護與中國良好關係 : http://bit.ly/32djgiv : == : 怎麼可能，同志最講人權了 : Tim Cook就是同志 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.124.117.163 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1571017595.A.C45.html ※ 編輯: zzahoward (59.124.117.163 臺灣), 10/14/2019 09:48:24

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