Re: [問卦] 日本薪資物價比優於台灣,為何仍這麼痛苦消失
※ 引述《letmeout (萊密奧)》之銘言:
: 同樣是年輕人,是日本年輕人身在福中不知福,動不動就自殺,還是台灣年輕人太堅強,
: 即使比日本年輕人更加看不見希望、存不到錢,仍然能咬牙撐下去?
因為爛下面還有更爛.
日本人來台灣過的很爽, 就像台灣人外派到東南亞過生活很爽的感覺.
但要這些日本人領 local 薪資褔利在台灣過生活 (日商多數褔利還比台商好)
90% 的日本人寧願回日本過你所謂"痛苦"的生活.
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許多日本人痛苦是因為沒有出過國,
出國後惜褔的人比率高很多.
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外派又不在當地生根.
若是像我朋友在日本科技業領日幣的, 還真的回不來.
因為薪資褔利根本無法match.
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台灣明明就很多... 至少台北市非外省人有親戚朋友在日本的到處都是.
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這沒有包括入籍的人喔. 前二三十年前去日本讀書工作的選入籍的比永住的多.
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你以為每個人都在領那種新卒薪水?
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半導體算台灣日本薪水比較近的. 網路業台日也不會差太多.
像我朋友作精密機械或是像有些人作化工的, 台灣日本薪水差距大到靠杯.
還有一個月女性朋友作廣告的, 台灣的文組薪水更不用想了.
※ 編輯: GenghisKhan (123.193.182.128), 10/04/2017 12:01:13
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這倒是確實, 有人說日企沒效率, 但日企內部推卸責任的能力才是世界第一.
連唬爛王印度人都比不上.
※ 編輯: GenghisKhan (123.193.182.128), 10/04/2017 12:04:08
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確實那幾位在日本也不是第一份工作了, 都是換senior和小主管缺.
薪資與台灣已經差距不小了.
不過他們在日本這種排外環境還能受到日本人尊重, 確實都很優秀.
但台灣企業沒辦法給足夠的薪資褔利讓他們回來貢獻.
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有的. 不過早年那些人都換成日本姓了. 所以看不出來.
但新一代的移民漸漸都用本國姓.
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比印度人少不代表沒有.
其實若說排外的企業, 華人系的企業是我看過最排外的.
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