Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7
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Chuck Robey wrote:
> Marc Spitzer wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 2007 11:35 PM, Tom Wickline <twickline@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 2007 10:30 PM, Marc Spitzer <mspitzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> One of the interesting things about socialism, in all in many evil
>>>> forms(including gnu/fsf), is that they simply must lie about their
>>>> program or no one of average intelligence would be stupid enough to
>>>> sign up for it. It just goes to show you that without G_d religion
>>>> gets much much worse.
>>>>
>>>> marc
>>>>
>>> That one gave me a chuckle :D
>>>
>>> Your just pissed because GPL makes people give back there changes! And
>>> from the way it looks you and a couple others
>>> here are mad because you cant go use others work and not have to
>>> contribute. You want the freedom to rob, steal pillage others
>>> hard work for your own good... And now you call this socialism because
>>> you cant do it?
>>>
>
> This sort of idea is entirely common among the folks who push GPL. They
> assign their encumbrances to their licenses, THEN they claim (just to
> take the attention off the fact that their license, alone, has those
> encumbrances) that are "mad because you cant go use others work" (that's
> your quote, sir, look above if you disagree). The BSD license, in fact,
Seems like you left off the more important part of the quote, "... and not have to
contribute." That is to say that you're free to do what you will with the code as long as
you redistribute your changes. It's a simple requirement. Tat for tat.
Stallman believes, rightly, that the freedom of the user is ultimately preserved through
the freedom of the code; hence, there are restrictions on redistribution in order to
guarantee the former. His writings are quite clear on this point. Nobody is lying; you are
just willfully refusing to understand.
> DOES allow any user to use the code in any damn way they please, all it
> means is that folks lose the ability to force anyone else to also public
> their work. That's the reason that a huge portion of the commercial
> world is actually direclty violating the GPL, and just relying on the
> fact that no one has the dollars to go after them (thank god). BSD
> licensed code allows anyone, anywhere, to do whatever they like with
> their work, unlike GPL, which is as directly communist/socialist as the
> definition allows.
>
> The GPLeres always shift attention away from that fact. Just like you
> did above. What about the fact that the BSD license is about 15 lines
> long, while the GPL license is one of the most evilly legalistically
> worded documents I;'ve ever seen ... worst that the worst emplyment
> document I have ever been asked to sign. Of course, you're just going
> to ignore that.
>
>> No I am not, the gpl is a thing and I save my spleen for people. The
>> thing that pisses me off is that the FSF and their minions
>> deliberately and knowingly lie about what the terms and conditions are
>> on the license they falsely call free. Face it when you redefine
>> common words in the English language to mean something that is found
>> in no dictionary or daily use and in point of fact contradicts at
>> least one of the main uses of the word, ie meaning with out cost or
>> encumbrance, you are willingly lieing through your fucking teeth and
>> you know it.
>>
>> I am not compelled to do do anything as I avoid the entire family of
>> gnu licenses except as an end user, so they get nothing and I can
>> still use their software <hahaha>
>>
>> umm this is s freebsd list and freebsd has done quite well by having
>> faith in the inherent decency of people in general, netgraph and BASM
>> come to mind. Further more oh yea of little history unix, and linux,
>> would not have grown to the degree it did if the berkley code was
>> gpled, OS/Kernel features were competitive advantage back then,
>> because I could not keep the code closed and it would have conflicted
>> with ATT's license as well.
>>
>>> hahahaha.... What a crock of shit!
>> stop projecting.
>>
>> marc
>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>
>>
>
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California State University, Bakersfield
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