Re: [文法] whose N = the N of whom

看板Eng-Class作者 (theyangist)時間10年前 (2015/09/27 08:43), 10年前編輯推噓5(5012)
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※ 引述《togs (= =")》之銘言: : 在文法書上有讀到這一句: whose N = the N of which 按照句法觀點來說,這個規則錯了,因為'whose'就是換限定詞組的relativizer, 但'which'就是換名詞組的。 按照語義觀點來說,他們的意思差不多了,但你不用總是用'the'。 還有,如果那個名詞組指出施動者(或人類)的話,要用'who(m)'代替以上的'which'。 1.1.)I like this book. 1.2.) **This book's* contents* are fascinating. 1.) I like this book, whose contents are fascinating. 2.1.) I like this book. 2.2.) *The contents of *this book** are fascinating. 2.) I like this book, the contents of which are fascinating. 3.1.) Lil' John is black. 3.2.) **Lil' John's* father* was a doctor. 3.) Lil' John, **whose* father* was a doctor, is black. 4.1.) Lil' John is black. 4.2.) *The father of *Lil' John** was a doctor. 4.) Lil' John, *the father of *whom** was a doctor, is black. 不過,生來就說英語的人不會用"NP's N"代替"NP of NP"。 看著兩個例句: 5.1.) A trader has 400kg of rice. 5.2.) A trader sells *a part of that *400kg of rice** for profit. 5.) A trader has 400kg of rice, *a part of *which** he sells for profit. 6.1.) A trader has 400kg of rice. 6.2.) A trader sells **that 400kg of rice's* part* for profit. (怪) 6.) A trader has 400kg of rice, **whose* part* he sells for profit. (怪) 勸告:不要相信台灣的私營出版社,因為其中大部分的人員都沒有學語言學。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 49.214.133.110 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1443314618.A.4D0.html

09/27 15:18, , 1F
看到這種例句編排方式就知道 專業的來了
09/27 15:18, 1F

09/27 21:22, , 2F
推專業
09/27 21:22, 2F

09/27 22:49, , 3F
推,要說whose的可能由來,不才也提供一個想法:
09/27 22:49, 3F

09/27 22:49, , 4F
I like the girl and the girl's her is short.
09/27 22:49, 4F

09/27 22:50, , 5F
--> I like the girl who's hair is short. (中間)
09/27 22:50, 5F

09/27 22:51, , 6F
--> I like the girl whose hair is short.(PF完的結果)
09/27 22:51, 6F

09/27 22:51, , 7F
hair
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09/27 22:52, , 8F
簡單講就是把原本應該是who's的,重新拼寫成whose
09/27 22:52, 8F

09/27 22:54, , 9F
至於t大提到的 the N of whom 則是:
09/27 22:54, 9F

09/27 22:55, , 10F
? I like the girl and the hair of the girl is short.
09/27 22:55, 10F

09/27 22:55, , 11F
--> ? I like the girl the hair of whom is short.
09/27 22:55, 11F

09/27 22:57, , 12F
這兩種方式,應可解釋為何whose不會與the連用
09/27 22:57, 12F

09/27 22:58, , 13F
還望各位先進不吝指教
09/27 22:58, 13F

09/28 12:51, , 14F
哇靠 長知識了 原來whose是這麼來的 謝謝s大
09/28 12:51, 14F

09/29 00:22, , 15F
I like the book which the contents of...這樣寫可以嗎?
09/29 00:22, 15F

09/29 00:22, , 16F
總覺得怪怪的
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09/29 08:16, , 17F
the contents of which
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