Re: [請益] 比較級文法

看板Eng-Class作者 (be good)時間14年前 (2011/12/01 10:18), 編輯推噓1(100)
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※ 引述《calchong (小寶~)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《Takepan (Pan)》之銘言: : : 目前正自學比較級這個階段,不過有一個問題請益 : : (1) My brother is taller than I. : : (2) My brother is taller than me. : : 第一句,記得學校老師是說後面要跟前面的主格是相對應的 : : 第二句,我是問一位外國人,他說me才是對的 : : 我被搞混淆了,救我救我(揮雙手) : : 可以說明嗎????感謝 : It's as simple as this: : throw "he" into the sentence. if it sounds correct, use "I". : throw "him" into the sentence. if it sounds correct, use "me". : Thus, : since "My brother is taller than him" sounds more natural : than "My brother is taller than he" : --> "My brother is taller than me" is correct... : this boils down to subject/object reference if you wanted to : dig deep, but this simple rule would help a lot esp in : intermediate learners... : my 2 cents 從過去個人所學來看,這個句子應該用 "I"。 這個句子是減化後的結果,原本是 My brother is taller than I am tall. 因為意思重複,省略後面的am tall 從詞性來看的話,手邊的OALD把形容詞比較級裡面的than視為連接詞 連接的東西看起來應該是兩個句子: He loves me more than you do. 所以兩個名詞都是主詞。 但是有趣的在後面, OALD接著又列出than也可以當介係詞。 例句是 : I am taller than her. 而且沒有說明這是非正式的口語用法。 這很令人困惑啊,然後上網查 在Oxford Dictionaries官網上面,than的項目下 關於than後面用主格或受格,有特別說明的一段文字,複製如下 Usage Traditional grammar holds that personal pronouns following than should be in the subjective rather than the objective case: he is smaller than she; rather than he is smaller than her. This is based on an analysis of than by which than is a conjunction and the personal pronoun (‘she’) is standing in for a full clause: he is smaller than she is. However , it is arguable that than in this context is not a conjunction but a preposition, similar grammatically to words like with, between, or for. In this case the personal pronoun is objective: he is smaller than her; is standard in just the same way as, for example, I work with her; is standard (not I work with she; ). Whatever the grammatical analysis, the evidence confirms that sentences like he is smaller than she; are uncommon in modern English and only ever found in formal contexts. Uses such as he is smaller than her, on the other hand, are almost universally accepted. For more explanation see personal pronoun (usage) and between. http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/than 這個說法看起來也不無道理, 不過個人認為,追根究柢than後面應該還是簡化後的子句,理論上用主格比較合理。 但是因為在句意與位置上,than在這裡都很類似介係詞,所以大家就當介係詞用了, 於是後面就接受格。 不知各位前輩看法如何? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.133.13.244

12/01 11:33, , 1F
這裡than後面為簡化子句(如你所說) 所以用主格較合理
12/01 11:33, 1F
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