[外電] 關於KG & 雷槍續留的負面評論...

看板Celtics作者 (淡定~ 穩中求勝)時間12年前 (2012/06/11 17:50), 編輯推噓35(38推 3噓 53→)
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新聞出處(必填):http://tinyurl.com/btumrpu 作者: Chris Mannix Pretty much as I expected, though I'm not sure I agree that KG is retiring. It's like he finally has become a low post center after all these years fighting it and has had a rebirth as a superstar. Why would he walk away at the age of 36? We're not talking Rasheed Wallace who was on his last legs? KG was still dominating. He will get HUGE offers and it will be up to Danny to decide whether to invest in multiple years for KG at the risk of punting our cap space. 一如我先前的預期, KG應該不會退休, 他成了他生涯一直在對抗著的低位中鋒, 並重新 成為超級球星, 那他為什麼要在36歲退休呢? 這跟當初Rasheed Wallace不同, KG 還是 有著滿滿的統治力, 所以他將會尋求超˙大˙的合約, 這將取決於安吉是否要冒著用光 扣打的風險投資在KG身上 I know people think I'm being harsh on Ray Allen, but I do believe he's entering the "shell of his former self" stage of his career. He used to be a running, dunking athlete, who you could give the ball to and he could create on his own. Now he is essentially just a shooter, who you need to run multiple picks for to get him open. Also, because he's no threat to drive or post up, other teams have the luxury of putting their point guards on him defensively, as both the Lakers and Heat have done. The Celtics really took off when they swapped Ray in the starting line-up for Avery Bradley and I feel that moving forward they need to continue to start a younger, more athletic guard. If Bradley doesn't get hurt we're in the Finals right now. In fact if the Ray Allen for OJ Mayo and a pick trade went down I believe we're also in the Finals. 有人或許會質疑我對雷槍的評論過於嚴苛, 但我相信雷槍現在跑進了以前那個自我的殼 中(sorry這個不太會翻). 雷槍本來是能跑能灌籃的球員, 是個你能放心把球給他然後 他會自己創造出手機會的人, 但現在卻只是個射手, 你得傳好幾次才能幫他創造出空間 出手. 同時, 他已經沒有切入跟post up的威脅性, 所以像是湖人跟熱火都不會浪費的 把後衛拿去防守他. 超賽在把小AB拉上先發取代雷槍後戰績轉好許多, 如果小AB能一直 維持健康, 或是當初把雷槍拿去換OJ Mayo跟一個選秀權, 超賽現在早就要打總冠軍了 I don't see Ray accepting a bench role for small money from Boston when at least one other team will offer him more money and a starting role. Not to mention, Danny's shopped him the past few trading deadlines, and he lost his starting gig this season, so his sense of loyalty to Boston has waned some (as has been reported). I think Ray will get at a minimum the full MLE from a prospective contender. Regarding KG, it will come down to how much money he's willing to leave on the table. I could see a team like the Nets offering him something ridiculous like 4 years at $50 million. Not sure how the Celtics can match that. Hopefully, if KG decides to return, Danny can negotiate a 2 year deal before other suitors get to enter the picture in July. 我不覺得雷槍會接受Boston錢少少的板凳合約, 畢竟還有其他球隊捧著比較多的錢跟先 發位置準備簽他, 這季交易大限前安吉把雷槍放在交易桌上幾次, 並且這季他失去過先 發位置, 所以一如以前報導過的, 雷槍對Boston的忠誠度就得用其他東西來補足了. 所以我覺得雷槍會從下一季有希望競爭冠軍金盃的隊伍拿到一份full MLE的合約 至於真˙男人KG呢, 就得看多少錢了, 尤其是風聞籃網放出風聲提出一份愚蠢的四年五 千萬美金的合約. 並不確定超賽是否能提出KG滿意的條件, 但希望如果KG決定回到超賽 , 安吉可以在其他球隊搶走KG之前, 用一份兩年的合約留下他 個人心得.... 對於喜愛雷槍 & KG的我來說, 翻譯這篇真是辛酸啊... 但Business is business, 不得不承認KG 今年的好表現真的會吸引許多大金額的合約 至於雷槍..超賽有小AB(健康的話), 先發位置要留給雷槍似乎也有點難度 加上其他有奪冠希望的球隊也會來競逐雷槍, 然後超賽的薪資空間... 一切隨緣吧~ -- 清晨霧一般的思念, 清新 double, 美麗 double, 捉摸不定 double... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 60.250.135.187
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06/11 17:53, , 1F
雷槍真的差啊 中肯 我早說過了
06/11 17:53, 1F
噓
06/11 17:55, , 2F
幹娘樓上賣靠盃
06/11 17:55, 2F
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06/11 17:55, , 3F
希望KG降價留在BOS，有他在至少保證季後賽
06/11 17:55, 3F
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06/11 17:57, , 4F
不用跟他計較吧..都自轉了..爆遜的
06/11 17:57, 4F
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06/11 17:57, , 5F
真的沒辦法的話希望雷槍去一支可以奪冠的球隊
06/11 17:57, 5F
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06/11 17:58, , 6F
雖然也很想噓一樓但是幫原PO補推一下
06/11 17:58, 6F
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06/11 17:58, , 7F
自轉遜在哪?
06/11 17:58, 7F
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06/11 18:00, , 8F
你要亂 去總版亂 去湖版亂
06/11 18:00, 8F
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06/11 18:00, , 9F
來這裡鬧版沒意義的
06/11 18:00, 9F
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06/11 18:00, , 10F
不要讓你的ID丟臉 如果你真心喜歡那個球員的話
06/11 18:00, 10F
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06/11 18:01, , 11F
當然前提是你真的喜歡才辦這個帳號啦 (攤
06/11 18:01, 11F
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06/11 18:03, , 12F
其實不用跟他多講什麼...無視他就好了 (茶)
06/11 18:03, 12F
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06/11 18:05, , 13F
無視 呵呵 是有些人無視RAY真的對賽隊沒幫助吧
06/11 18:05, 13F
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06/11 18:06, , 14F
質疑RAY的聲音那麼多年了 都沒聽見喔?
06/11 18:06, 14F
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06/11 18:08, , 15F
樓上狗迷可以早點放暑假嗎
06/11 18:08, 15F
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06/11 18:08, , 16F
你愛怎麼質疑是你的事情~當然也歡迎你直接寫信去C's
06/11 18:08, 16F
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06/11 18:09, , 17F
自己去看今年季賽雷槍的命中率吧
06/11 18:09, 17F
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06/11 18:10, , 18F
腳長骨刺還能打已經很拚了
06/11 18:10, 18F
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06/11 18:15, , 19F
這種人就是想引起別人注意而已…別理他讓他自生自滅
06/11 18:15, 19F
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06/11 18:27, , 20F
狗鼻迷滾好嗎?幹
06/11 18:27, 20F
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06/11 18:29, , 21F
純噓1樓 可以滾去你們版嗎?
06/11 18:29, 21F
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06/11 18:29, , 22F
好像是爭議人物 http://disp.cc/b/221-3t16
06/11 18:29, 22F
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06/11 18:34, , 23F
一樓是來亂個屁........
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06/11 18:40, , 24F
KG一直以來都是該他的他都會拿
06/11 18:40, 24F
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06/11 18:40, , 25F
不用裡他啦,考完試出來亂很正常
06/11 18:40, 25F
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06/11 18:43, , 26F
我只永遠記得縈繞腦海的RAYALEEN for 333333!!!!!!!!
06/11 18:43, 26F
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06/11 19:07, , 27F
誰質疑Ray?質疑的點?對賽隊沒幫助?
06/11 19:07, 27F
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06/11 19:07, , 28F
就這三個點有證據再說話啦 嘴砲
06/11 19:07, 28F
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06/11 19:21, , 29F
這篇講到一個很重要的問題 別隊都是捧著大約
06/11 19:21, 29F
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06/11 19:22, , 30F
而我們.......
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06/11 19:23, , 31F
我們都只能動之以情 曉以大義
06/11 19:23, 31F
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06/11 19:25, , 32F
每年交易都是拿RAY出來講? RAY迷別再自欺欺人了
06/11 19:25, 32F
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06/11 19:25, , 33F
塞爾版的大家人真是太好了
06/11 19:25, 33F
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06/11 19:26, , 34F
RAY真的那麼好? 幹嘛每年都想交易RAY 事實很明顯不過
06/11 19:26, 34F
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06/11 19:30, , 35F
我知道很多人都隱忍RAY很久了啦 只是不想在板上戳破
06/11 19:30, 35F
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06/11 19:30, , 36F
嘿 到我為止就好 大家不要回他好嘛
06/11 19:30, 36F
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06/11 19:30, , 37F
不要回他好嘛
06/11 19:30, 37F
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06/11 19:30, , 38F
不要回他好嘛
06/11 19:30, 38F
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06/11 19:40, , 39F
二樓推一個!!!
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06/11 19:40, , 40F
顆顆 我覺得他應該不想在這版生存了吧 水桶還蠻空曠
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06/11 19:41, , 41F
如果不是那麼好 那為什麼其他球隊想要他呢?
06/11 19:41, 41F
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06/11 19:42, , 42F
其實這篇原文在網頁下面被批的蠻慘的-.-
06/11 19:42, 42F
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06/11 19:43, , 43F
沒雷強賽對不會有之前那個冠軍!!!!
06/11 19:43, 43F
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06/11 19:46, , 44F
對了 這篇第一句是說KG會退休 但他不是很肯定
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06/11 19:48, , 45F
其實原po應該要把這篇最上面的twitter翻出來
06/11 19:48, 45F
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06/11 19:49, , 46F
那篇twitter預測是說KG退休 雷槍走人(熱火&尼克在優
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06/11 19:50, , 47F
先考慮名單中("sources" said)老皮可能被交易
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06/11 19:51, , 48F
這種消息看看就好
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06/11 19:54, , 49F
KG應該不能再拿超大合約了吧 長約還有可能
06/11 19:54, 49F
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06/11 20:03, , 50F
我倒覺得長約不可能 KG這種燃燒自己方式能再打多久呢
06/11 20:03, 50F
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06/11 20:03, , 51F
ray的好!只有塞迷看得出來阿~耶!!!!!!!!y
06/11 20:03, 51F
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06/11 20:06, , 52F
KG不會再拿超大合約+1 反而覺得會佛心XDD
06/11 20:06, 52F
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06/11 20:12, , 53F
籃網提供的合約似乎又長錢又多
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06/11 20:19, , 54F
總版一堆人一直在說雷槍打不好 都不知道他有傷嗎
06/11 20:19, 54F
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06/11 20:23, , 55F
總版一堆都在反串想引戰而已……沒事別去看會比較好
06/11 20:23, 55F
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06/11 20:25, , 56F
這年頭有勇無謀的智障真多 嘆~
06/11 20:25, 56F
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06/11 20:26, , 57F
只會講一堆屁話沒有實力只會酸
06/11 20:26, 57F
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06/11 20:29, , 58F
真的Ray超差拜託大家不要跟我們搶 QQ
06/11 20:29, 58F
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06/11 20:39, , 59F
實務上來說，Ainge肯定會盡力留KG...
06/11 20:39, 59F
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06/11 20:53, , 60F
抱歉 我對原文這老外把雷槍講這麼不值很火大
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06/11 20:56, , 61F
雷槍季後賽不是還有球飛扣...真的有差到這地步嗎
06/11 20:56, 61F
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06/11 20:59, , 62F
總版逮到機會就酸阿 不酸一下他們還覺得渾身不對勁
06/11 20:59, 62F
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06/11 21:02, , 63F
補推 雷槍今年季後明明就還有用過切入跟低位
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06/11 21:03, , 64F
雖然不一定有效但也沒這記者講得那麼不堪
06/11 21:03, 64F
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06/11 21:08, , 65F
有些人就只會出一張嘴說廢話 大概是生活沒重心吧
06/11 21:08, 65F
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06/11 21:45, , 66F
Ray說他身上還有滿滿的能量, 我完全相信他不是嘴砲呀
06/11 21:45, 66F
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06/11 21:46, , 67F
開完刀以後就會恢復的. 體力下滑變純射手我是可以接
06/11 21:46, 67F
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06/11 21:46, , 68F
受啦~低位本來就沒打多好~~上籃也大多空手溜
06/11 21:46, 68F
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06/11 21:47, , 69F
以這個年紀和角色來講, 現在的打法反而是好的對的!
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06/11 21:48, , 70F
如果硬要講的話, 我希望他可以不怕靠一點~~
06/11 21:48, 70F
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06/11 21:49, , 71F
其實不只是我們 對其他隊而言 要開給KG或雷槍大約也
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06/11 21:51, , 72F
是高風險 所以我覺得重點還是在球隊的補強
06/11 21:51, 72F
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06/11 21:53, , 73F
可以的話選一個潛力新秀就好 補一個FA 留下兩老
06/11 21:53, 73F
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06/11 22:11, , 74F
1F真悲哀 KOBE名聲就是被你們這種人弄臭
06/11 22:11, 74F
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06/11 22:42, , 75F
Mayo<->Ray就能進冠軍賽?! 向來認為Mayo這類防守普普
06/11 22:42, 75F
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06/11 22:43, , 76F
攻效率不高且需高持球球員對球隊+-分反而未必有幫助
06/11 22:43, 76F
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06/11 22:53, , 77F
AB > Mayo
06/11 22:53, 77F
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06/11 23:01, , 78F
一樓 我怎麼只記得RAY在08年最後一場比賽
06/11 23:01, 78F
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06/11 23:01, , 79F
在你們老大面前不知道射了多少顆三分
06/11 23:01, 79F
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06/11 23:02, , 80F
少在那邊來C板亂 要在總板亂是你家的事
06/11 23:02, 80F
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06/11 23:02, , 81F
看了就不爽
06/11 23:02, 81F
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06/11 23:08, , 82F
==============不用跟某人一般見識=================
06/11 23:08, 82F
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06/11 23:15, , 83F
藍網真的開4~5年 BOS不太可能follow吧...太長了...
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06/11 23:26, , 84F
KG會不會想再打四年會是個問題...不過照理說應該都會
06/11 23:26, 84F
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06/11 23:26, , 85F
先把約簽下來再說 XD
06/11 23:26, 85F
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06/11 23:34, , 86F
我猜KG ，安吉最多給到兩年...
06/11 23:34, 86F
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06/12 00:34, , 87F
KG兩年合理 畢竟傷病無法預測...
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06/12 00:35, , 88F
籃網那個約真的太不合理...
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06/12 00:48, , 89F
Ray 10 11的表現也十分亮眼阿 希望傷好了之後繼續
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創造三分障礙!!
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06/12 03:22, , 91F
那些不具有奪冠實力的隊伍有了Ray也沒屁用
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06/12 03:23, , 92F
具奪冠實力的隊伍又不一定具有對應的空間，樂觀的認
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06/12 03:23, , 93F
為只要安總管釋出善意留下的機會還是很大的
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06/13 21:03, , 94F
幹為什麼我到哪都會看到一樓那個白癡啦
06/13 21:03, 94F
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