[分享] 水原假經歷 一次報齁哩災

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https://tinyurl.com/58srsn6t For years, the Los Angeles Angels media guide lists Mizuhara as having graduated from the University of California, Riverside in 2007, and that he spent spring training in 2012 working for the New York Yankees as an interpreter for Japanese pitcher Hideki Okajima. Also, multiple news reports noted that Mizuhara served as Okajima’s interpreter in 2010 with the Boston Red Sox — where he reportedly got his first major-league opportunity. 過去幾年天使觀戰指南紀錄水原是UCR畢業 並在2012年在洋基替岡島秀樹翻譯 另外有多個新聞報導水原在2010年在紅襪替岡島秀樹翻譯 However, as first reported by NBC Los Angeles, the university disputed the notion that Mizuhara had ever attended the school, much less having graduated. “Our university records do not show a student by the name of Ippei Mizuhara having attended UC Riverside,” a school spokesman told The Athletic. UCR校方表示學校沒有一個叫水原一平的學生的就讀紀錄 Meanwhile, multiple news reports show that Okajima failed a physical on Feb. 17, 2012, before spring training, when he was released by the Yankees. Mizuhara could have worked with Okajima before the official start of camp, during the month or so when players on minor-league deals might arrive early to work out. But the Angels media guide has stated annually since 2019 that Mizuhara “served as an interpreter for Hideki Okajima during Yankees Spring Training in 2012.” 岡島當年在春訓前就被洋基釋出 然而天使觀戰指南卻紀錄水原在洋基春訓時當岡島的翻譯 Earlier this week, the Red Sox released a statement insisting that Mizuhara has never worked for the team. 稍早 紅襪也發出聲明澄清水原從沒在紅襪工作過 Mizhuara’s connection to Okajima seems to have been exaggerated over time. Multiple news reports have linked Mizuhara to Okajima over different periods. That includes a Nippon.com story from 2021 that said Mizuhara was Okajima’s interpreter during the 2010 season with the Red Sox. But in addition to the Red Sox’s denial, archives from the Boston Globe in April and May 2010 name Ryo Shinkawa as Okajima’s interpreter. The team’s media guide from 2010 lists two people as team interpreters that season, but not Mizuhara. 水原和岡島的關係似乎隨著時間過去愈來愈被誇大 多個新聞把水原和岡島在不同期間聯繫起來 包括Nippon.com報導水原在2010年當岡島在紅襪的翻譯 但除了紅襪否認以外 Boston Globe上的紀錄是當時岡島的翻譯是Ryo Shinkawa 紅襪的觀戰指南也沒把水原列為翻譯 Searches on two different news databases did not bring up results featuring Mizuhara before 2018, when Ohtani first signed with the Angels. 在兩個新聞資料庫搜尋 沒找到2018年大谷赴美前 關於水原的搜尋結果 In devising a media guide, the standard protocol requires trust between the media relations department and the rest of the employees, according to interviews with media relations staffers from other clubs, who requested anonymity to speak candidly. The media relations department does not have the time to vet the resume claims of each employee, the staffers said. A media relations staffer will often send a proposed biographic thumbnail for pre-approval to the employee, or ask the employee for biographical information in publishing the guide. 其他隊製作觀戰指南的職員則受訪表示 一般都是依賴對員工的信任 不會有時間去確認履歷紀錄真實性 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 184.191.81.15 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Baseball/M.1711290923.A.DCD.html

03/24 22:38, 1月前 , 1F
是不是天使又在雷
03/24 22:38, 1F

03/24 22:39, 1月前 , 2F
所以是……天使的問題?
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03/24 22:39, 1月前 , 3F
早說怎麼不早說 出包了才說我們不認識這個人
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03/24 22:39, 1月前 , 4F
牆倒眾人推囉
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03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 5F
天使:啊我就聽大家都這麼說就寫上去了啊
03/24 22:40, 5F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 6F
人都消失了,這個人也是假的,只有老婆是真的(X
03/24 22:40, 6F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 7F
日刊體育刊登了岡島秀樹本人的說法:水原是在2012年
03/24 22:40, 7F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 8F
季前幫他當翻譯的,但他加入洋基的合約因為體檢沒過
03/24 22:40, 8F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 9F
而作廢,他也就不能繼續和水原合作;紅襪時代的翻譯
03/24 22:40, 9F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 10F
直到2011年都另有其人
03/24 22:40, 10F

03/24 22:40, 1月前 , 11F
大賭一平
03/24 22:40, 11F

03/24 22:41, 1月前 , 12F
大賭兄弟
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03/24 22:41, 1月前 , 13F
現在比較好奇他在火腿時給的學經歷 不曉得有沒有日媒跑
03/24 22:41, 13F

03/24 22:41, 1月前 , 14F
去問
03/24 22:41, 14F

03/24 22:41, 1月前 , 15F
看起來也就學歷問題比較大
03/24 22:41, 15F

03/24 22:41, 1月前 , 16F
會不會不是本名?
03/24 22:41, 16F

03/24 22:44, 1月前 , 17F
看來岡島確實有找過水原當翻譯 只是時間可能少於一周
03/24 22:44, 17F

03/24 22:45, 1月前 , 18F
平常對於員工的信任,又是大谷帶來的,球團應該更不會沒事
03/24 22:45, 18F

03/24 22:45, 1月前 , 19F
去查證
03/24 22:45, 19F

03/24 22:45, 1月前 , 20F
10年後可以翻拍成電影了 玄
03/24 22:45, 20F

03/24 22:46, 1月前 , 21F
很難相信的是那個人是水原
03/24 22:46, 21F

03/24 22:47, 1月前 , 22F
哈哈 他就被人切割喇 樹倒猢猻散
03/24 22:47, 22F

03/24 22:48, 1月前 , 23F
工作做好不出事也沒人會發現....自找的 有問題還去作怪
03/24 22:48, 23F

03/24 22:48, 1月前 , 24F
abc你的台語也很好捏
03/24 22:48, 24F

03/24 22:48, 1月前 , 25F
落魄的時候 每個人都來踹他兩腳
03/24 22:48, 25F

03/24 22:49, 1月前 , 26F
詐欺天才
03/24 22:49, 26F

03/24 22:49, 1月前 , 27F
不那麼好賭 大概不會有人發現
03/24 22:49, 27F

03/24 22:50, 1月前 , 28F
神鬼翻譯
03/24 22:50, 28F

03/24 22:50, 1月前 , 29F
他不是老爸在日本嗎? 不去問一下?
03/24 22:50, 29F

03/24 22:51, 1月前 , 30F
天使又是你 你最爛
03/24 22:51, 30F

03/24 22:51, 1月前 , 31F
他爸在LA開居酒屋吧
03/24 22:51, 31F

03/24 22:53, 1月前 , 32F
他老爸在美國吧 而且出事時記者就跑去採訪他 只是應該沒
03/24 22:53, 32F

03/24 22:53, 1月前 , 33F
有問到學歷問題
03/24 22:53, 33F

03/24 22:54, 1月前 , 34F
不是馬後炮 身為谷迷以前也是喜歡水原 但我很早就跟我婆
03/24 22:54, 34F

03/24 22:54, 1月前 , 35F
喔原來在la
03/24 22:54, 35F

03/24 22:54, 1月前 , 36F
說 為什麼一個正式翻譯講話會那麼含藍 真的是很奇怪
03/24 22:54, 36F

03/24 22:56, 1月前 , 37F
牆倒眾人推
03/24 22:56, 37F

03/24 22:56, 1月前 , 38F
而且他有老婆 要忽然人間蒸發應該也有難度吧
03/24 22:56, 38F

03/24 23:00, 1月前 , 39F
職棒的翻譯不是商業外交場合那種 對講話清晰要求沒那麼高
03/24 23:00, 39F
還有 69 則推文
03/24 23:58, 1月前 , 109F
抽1-2% 都不知道真的假的了 新聞不知道是不是傳言
03/24 23:58, 109F

03/24 23:58, 1月前 , 110F
1~2%www
03/24 23:58, 110F

03/24 23:58, 1月前 , 111F
水原自己也沒出來證實 自從賭債事件後感覺新聞都要半信
03/24 23:58, 111F

03/24 23:59, 1月前 , 112F
被一平弄到了 看不來那個樣子是賭鬼
03/24 23:59, 112F

03/25 00:00, 1月前 , 113F
經濟團隊一般也才抽3-4%就算很高了 翻譯一個人要抽到
03/25 00:00, 113F

03/25 00:00, 1月前 , 114F
1-2%感覺這比例高到誇張
03/25 00:00, 114F

03/25 00:00, 1月前 , 115F
半個月前 一平和神一樣的翻譯存在 現在變都是在騙的賭鬼
03/25 00:00, 115F

03/25 00:02, 1月前 , 116F
就去年比較高吧 照這樣算 今年剩2.1M?
03/25 00:02, 116F

03/25 00:04, 1月前 , 117F
大谷今年年薪就2M,如果給1~2%,就是20~40K。
03/25 00:04, 117F

03/25 00:09, 1月前 , 118F
神鬼翻譯 水原包恩
03/25 00:09, 118F

03/25 00:15, 1月前 , 119F
都是天使在搞
03/25 00:15, 119F

03/25 00:19, 1月前 , 120F
現在唯一能信的只有金流上有大谷名字這點吧 xd 我甚至懷疑官
03/25 00:19, 120F

03/25 00:19, 1月前 , 121F
方跟水原說的欠款是賭債這點到底是不是真的
03/25 00:19, 121F

03/25 00:21, 1月前 , 122F
我記得一開始的專訪水原好像有說他現在年收入大概是30-5
03/25 00:21, 122F

03/25 00:21, 1月前 , 123F
0萬鎂(?)
03/25 00:21, 123F

03/25 00:25, 1月前 , 124F
之前MLB罷工時有新聞說罷工時由大谷聘水原 給薪水?
03/25 00:25, 124F

03/25 00:26, 1月前 , 125F

03/25 00:30, 1月前 , 126F
8.5萬應該是一開始跟大谷去天使的薪水
03/25 00:30, 126F

03/25 00:34, 1月前 , 127F
以他的名氣跟保母的工作 這是比較合理的 8.5萬真的太低
03/25 00:34, 127F

03/25 01:02, 1月前 , 128F
浮木集中串
03/25 01:02, 128F

03/25 01:44, 1月前 , 129F
netflix 感覺可以準備了
03/25 01:44, 129F

03/25 03:55, 1月前 , 130F
神鬼交鋒
03/25 03:55, 130F

03/25 04:21, 1月前 , 131F
這樣該問是洋基不是紅襪吧!
03/25 04:21, 131F

03/25 06:07, 1月前 , 132F

03/25 06:07, 1月前 , 133F
都說本來球隊就不會查了,沒什麼好奇怪的
03/25 06:07, 133F

03/25 06:23, 1月前 , 134F
你什麼時候產生了.....
03/25 06:23, 134F

03/25 06:34, 1月前 , 135F
台灣人是被騙習慣所以應徵上後都要附畢業證書。
03/25 06:34, 135F

03/25 07:00, 1月前 , 136F
快被推文笑死。一平趕快買版權,這部一定好看
03/25 07:00, 136F

03/25 07:49, 1月前 , 137F
就是個低階工作人員看什麼畢業證書...搞不好還是短期工呢~
03/25 07:49, 137F

03/25 08:20, 1月前 , 138F
道奇那次就真的是短期工
03/25 08:20, 138F

03/25 08:22, 1月前 , 139F
基本都是先信任員工提供的,球團也沒想到經歷是唬爛的吧
03/25 08:22, 139F

03/25 08:43, 1月前 , 140F
也許道奇當時負責找翻譯的人,早就看扁岡島做不久,翻
03/25 08:43, 140F

03/25 08:43, 1月前 , 141F
譯就隨便找找:「What is ohayo?」「Good morning 」
03/25 08:43, 141F

03/25 08:43, 1月前 , 142F
「What is kawaii?」「Cute」「You are hired.」
03/25 08:43, 142F

03/25 08:56, 1月前 , 143F
從這可以看到,賭到底是多愚蠢的地獄一直線,明明可以
03/25 08:56, 143F

03/25 08:56, 1月前 , 144F
名利雙收,爽爽過一生,結果現在聲名狼藉,什麼都不剩
03/25 08:56, 144F

03/25 08:56, 1月前 , 145F
,大概只剩還可以做詐欺大師的取材對象吧,這樣Staff
03/25 08:56, 145F

03/25 08:56, 1月前 , 146F
就不用來台灣取材了。
03/25 08:56, 146F

03/25 13:27, 1月前 , 147F
神鬼翻譯,找李奧納多當男主角
03/25 13:27, 147F

03/25 16:00, 1月前 , 148F
學歷假的 但能力是真的
03/25 16:00, 148F
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