[情報] Crabbe的trade kicker

看板BLAZERS作者 (讚曰:寡言 )時間6年前 (2017/06/19 22:55), 6年前編輯推噓10(1008)
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上篇有討論到Allen Crabbe當作交易包裹 這邊先對Crabbe的trade kicker做個簡略說明 https://goo.gl/eFZwe6 引用BE的文章 - Calculating the trade kicker If the Blazers trade Crabbe this summer he will receive a 15 percent bonus for the remaining value of his contract, option years excluded. Since Crabbe’s deal ends with a player option, that means he’ll get a bonus equivalent to 15 percent of the $37.8 million he’s owed over the next two years. 如果我拓暑假交易Crabbe,他就會收到15%的薪資增額,但球員選項年不計入 這表示若他被交易,未來兩年他合計能拿到37.8M The 15 percent bonus will be spread evenly over the remaining non-option years of the deal. This table summarizes the raw math: 15%是將兩年合約總值相加後,再平均攤入計算的 因此新合約會變成如下表 : Crabbe's contract 17-18 18-19 19-20 Before Trade 19,332,500 18,500,000 18,500,000 player option trade bonus 2,837,437.5 2,837,437.5 After Trade 22,169,938 21,337,438 18,500,000 - How does Crabbe’s kicker affect trades? The NBA has rules dictating that teams over the salary cap must “match” salary when making trades - basically, teams have to take back roughly the same amount of money as they send out. Trade kickers affect the way that salaries are matched when teams make trades. The team giving up the player only gets “credit” for the pre-kicker salary, while the team receiving the player has to have room for the post-bonus salary. In practice this means that the Blazers are sending out $19.3 million to trade Crabbe but the receiving team is taking on $22.2 million. There are two disadvantages to this: 由於NBA規定除了團隊薪資未滿salary cap的球隊外 交易球員的合約總值都必須在相等的薪資差距內 Crabbe的trade kicker在交易前不能被當作薪資來計入 意指 : 交易前他被當作19.3M的球員看待 交易後卻是個22.2M的球員 1. Depending on the other team’s cap situation, the Blazers must take on at least $17.2 or $17.7 million. Without the trade kicker the Blazers could have taken back as little as $14.3 million or $15.4 million. Taking on extra salary increases the Blazers tax hit and ensures that they stay on over the apron - any lost opportunity to shed money just reinforces that. 2. Since the Blazers only get credit for the pre-bonus salary, they will only be able to take back $24.3 million (pre-bonus contract x 125% + $100,00)., instead of $27.8 million (post-bonus contract x 125% + $100,00). Teams might be less willing or less able to make trades since the Blazers are limited in how much money they can receive. 拓荒者最少只能收到14.3 or 15.4M的包裹 最多只能拿到24.3M的球員包裹 而非27.8M 不管對於除去薪資壓力 或是拿到的球員戰力都會造成影響 Overall, Crabbe’s trade bonus means that there is a more limited range in the amount of salary the Blazers can receive when trading him. Given how complicated salary matching can be, that may hinder potential deals. Also note that this math assumes a one-for-one trade—an unusual scenario in the NBA. Factoring in other players will make it even more difficult. - Who pays the trade bonus? The Blazers would be responsible for paying Crabbe the bonus, but the Nets, as the receiving team, would take the cap hit for the bonus. Basically, the Blazers would be responsible for part of the Nets’ cap hit. Importantly, the bonus will NOT count toward Portland’s luxury tax bill. 我拓要負責付trade bonus的$$ 但不會對豪華稅造成影響 - What about sign and trades? Blazers have to stay below the apron AFTER the trade—$6 million over the cap— to complete a sign and trade. They are already well over that, so they need to shed about $6 million in guaranteed deals before even accounting for the draft picks and Tim Quarterman and Pat Connaughton to complete a sign and trade. 要先簽後換(s&t) 團隊薪資必須得低於salasy cap 這代表送走Crabbe之後還得清出 6M 差不多等於清掉 Tim Pat 和其他選秀權 Crabbe’s deal ensures they will take on more money than usual and would make it more difficult to stay under $6 million in a sign and trade. - Can Crabbe’s trade kicker disappear? Crabbe can waive his trade bonus, as long as he’s not being traded to a team that would go over the apron by acquiring him. Given comments he made in Brooklyn early this season, he might be willing to do that, but there is no way to know for sure. Crabbe本身具有否決trade kicker執行的同意權 根據當初和籃網的談判 在某些條件下 Crabbe會考慮不執行 但 看看就好 - Bottom Line If the Blazers do decide to trade Crabbe it will likely be to a team that, 1) Has young players on rookie deals for several seasons so they don’t need to worry about paying a role player a near max salary, 2) Needs a starting shooting guard with a high 3-point percentage, and 3) Is under the cap and so doesn’t need to worry about salary matching. 因此大概要有以下條件才會觸發Crabbe被交易的可能 1) 有球隊手握一群小鮮肉 擔心他們只長成role player 卻被開高薪挖角 2) 需要個會投三分先發SG的球隊 3) 低於salary cap 什麼都不用擔心的球隊 --- 另外這篇雖然是尼克論壇的文 但大致有說明選秀權的價值 值得看看 https://goo.gl/zA9EwU -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.164.137.153 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/BLAZERS/M.1497884153.A.D73.html ※ 編輯: dw1012 (1.164.137.153), 06/19/2017 22:56:27

06/19 23:00, , 1F
這幾個條件加起來就76人了啊XS
06/19 23:00, 1F

06/19 23:00, , 2F
啊這幾個條件應該是用or來看 不是and XD
06/19 23:00, 2F

06/19 23:01, , 3F
清薪資還是丟et簡單
06/19 23:01, 3F

06/19 23:05, , 4F
76人在還沒有富兒子可能會要 有以後吃螃蟹對他們很痛
06/19 23:05, 4F

06/19 23:10, , 5F
這還能幻想一下PG嗎...我想要PG啊
06/19 23:10, 5F

06/19 23:13, , 6F
往好處想 溜馬至少符合2那項
06/19 23:13, 6F

06/19 23:30, , 7F
hc100大 我也覺得76人超適合Crabbe的XDDD
06/19 23:30, 7F

06/19 23:32, , 8F
但聽說他們教練很要求有防守...
06/19 23:32, 8F

06/19 23:38, , 9F
七六人要拼了 哪會去吃爛約...
06/19 23:38, 9F

06/20 08:01, , 10F
只要能清掉副業哥、螃蟹,陪幾個首輪都願意
06/20 08:01, 10F

06/20 15:41, , 11F
有GM祼照
06/20 15:41, 11F

06/20 17:32, , 12F
AC不要拉去打3號的話 防守是還ok的 如果76人跟國民談崩的話
06/20 17:32, 12F

06/20 17:32, , 13F
才有可能會吃AC+拿籤 主要是他們也是待磨合狀態 AC至少是不
06/20 17:32, 13F

06/20 17:32, , 14F
吃球權的射手
06/20 17:32, 14F

06/20 17:40, , 15F
不過給76人,AC+籤,那要從76人拿回什麼
06/20 17:40, 15F

06/22 00:28, , 16F
76人 under cap的話可以不用給我們,我們會換到TE
06/22 00:28, 16F

06/22 10:50, , 17F
有這麼大的TE嗎....
06/22 10:50, 17F

06/22 11:14, , 18F
TE好像要1換1?
06/22 11:14, 18F
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