Re: [問題] "開車" "順槳"

看板Aviation作者 (Mr.HATA)時間9年前 (2015/02/07 05:46), 編輯推噓8(8016)
留言24則, 9人參與, 最新討論串2/2 (看更多)
花了點時間翻閱手冊,但是已經是好幾年前的舊資料 打著這些時心裡是越來越心虛,一直思考著究竟在駕駛艙裡發生了什麼事 依照飛安會初期報告的FDR指出: 收到2號發動機警告,卻是收1號發動機油門進行ENG RESTART 在收到組員報告確認2號發動機熄火後還是將1號發動機Condiation Lever 推到FUEL SO 所有名詞我就不一一解釋了,因為資料有點舊,非常可能有更動,僅供參考 SINGLE ENG OPERATION LAND ASAP PWR MGT(both).....................................TO if necessary then MCT FUEL PUMP AFFECTED.....................................................OFF DC GEN affected........................................................OFF ACW GEN affected.......................................................OFF PACK affected..........................................................OFF BLEED affected.........................................................OFF OIL PRESSURE ON FAILED ENGINE......................................MONITOR ----------------------------------我是分隔線---------------------------------- ENG RESTART IN FLT PROCEDURE ENG RESTART IN FLT FUEL SUPPLY..........................................................CHECK CL.................................................................FUEL SO PL......................................................................FI CAUTION: After ATPCS sequence PWR MGT rotary selector must be set to MCT position before engine restart in order to cancel propeller feathering. ENG START rotary selector......................................START A & B EEC ......................RESET if necessary or DESELECT if FAULT persists START pb................................................................ON At 10 % NH: CL.....................................................................FTR RELIGHT............................................................MONITOR CL....................................................................AUTO PL..................................................ADJUST TO OTHER ENGINE ENG START rotary selector..................................OFF/START ABORT SYSTEMS affected...................................................RESTORE -------------------------------------我是分隔線------------------------------ ENGINE FLAME OUT An engine flame out may be recognized by: -Sudden dissymmetry -TQ decrease -Rapid ITT decrease PROCEDURE ENGINE FLAME OUT PL......................................................................FI █ If NH drops below 30% (no immediate relight) CL....................................................FTR THEN FUEL SO █ If damage suspected FIRE HANDLE ...................................................PULL SINGLE ENG OPERATION PROCEDURE................................APPLY █ If no damages are suspected ENG RESTART IN FLT PROC.......................................APPLY █ If unsuccessful SINGLE ENG OPERATION PROCEDURE.............................APPLY 註:CL=Condition Lever PL=Power Lever FI=Flight idle -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.126.160.178 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1423259207.A.7B8.html

02/07 11:18, , 1F
02/07 11:18, 1F

02/07 12:30, , 2F
請問ㄧ下,CL那邊那個FTR是Fail To Run的縮寫嗎?
02/07 12:30, 2F

02/07 12:58, , 3F
下一階段可能真的要從飛機殘骸研究證據了...
02/07 12:58, 3F

02/07 13:11, , 4F
CL的FTR是指feather 也就是把槳葉擺在順槳位置
02/07 13:11, 4F

02/07 13:17, , 5F
所以在Engine Flameout時的SOP是把可能受損的引擎降到
02/07 13:17, 5F

02/07 13:18, , 6F
Idle, 然後CL先Feather再Shut out. 如果懷疑引擎受損
02/07 13:18, 6F

02/07 13:21, , 7F
就拉Fire Handle然後照單引擎運行的步驟. 如果引擎沒
02/07 13:21, 7F

02/07 13:22, , 8F
受損的話就先照飛行時重啟引擎步驟來嘗試重啟引擎, 如
02/07 13:22, 8F

02/07 13:23, , 9F
過不成功就照單引擎運行的步驟.
02/07 13:23, 9F

02/07 13:24, , 10F
可是這樣還是無法解釋為什麼會先去把正常運行的發動機
02/07 13:24, 10F

02/07 13:25, , 11F
CL去Fuel SO啊...
02/07 13:25, 11F

02/07 13:29, , 12F
所以真的是因為不明原因拉到錯的?還有這SOP是不是該改成
02/07 13:29, 12F

02/07 13:30, , 13F
到安全高度時再處理到idle?!
02/07 13:30, 13F

02/07 13:59, , 14F
我還是滿想知道Objective TQ是什麼 因為從時間軸來看 第一個
02/07 13:59, 14F

02/07 14:00, , 15F
跳開正常值的參數 是一號引擎的Objective TQ 如果它是某種
02/07 14:00, 15F

02/07 14:01, , 16F
扭力值 那應該也是代表引擎有問題吧 一號引擎 真的是完全正常
02/07 14:01, 16F

02/07 14:02, , 17F
嗎? 會不會機師重啟一號引擎 是別的因素 而在這個想法的過程
02/07 14:02, 17F

02/07 14:02, , 18F
中 才又發生了二號引擎的故障
02/07 14:02, 18F

02/07 14:05, , 19F
還是要等其他調查結果再判斷比較好
02/07 14:05, 19F

02/07 16:26, , 20F
我也想知道Objective TQ到底是代表什麼
02/07 16:26, 20F

02/07 18:57, , 21F
網上找的ATR72-500 QRH可供參考 http://ppt.cc/xv8a
02/07 18:57, 21F

02/07 18:58, , 22F
這個國外機師論壇中有些討論可看 http://ppt.cc/SkCa
02/07 18:58, 22F

02/08 21:29, , 23F
一般情況下 起飛時objective TQ為90% ENG 1 Objective TQ
02/08 21:29, 23F

02/08 21:30, , 24F
增加為100%應該是因為ATPCS系統偵測到ENG 2 fail所做的動作
02/08 21:30, 24F
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