[閒聊] 陳震武的下一步

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個人認為陳震武能夠撐到現在還沒被解聘, 真的是很神奇的一件事 一直把過錯推給哥哥陳震遠, 焦點也一直在蔣偉寧被撤的那五篇身上, 都沒有人去質疑他自己被撤的文章是否有問題? 以下是有 CW Chen 而沒有 CY Chen 的文章, 這總不能也推給哥哥陳震遠吧? Lin M-L and Chen C-W (2013) Stability analysis of fuzzy-based NN modeling for ecosystems using fuzzy Lyapunov methods Journal of Vibration and Control Epub ahead of print 6 February 2013. doi: 10.1177/1077546312466687 Chen C-W (2014) Applications of neural-network-based fuzzy logic control to a nonlinear time-delay chaotic system Journal of Vibration and Control 20 (4): 589-605. Epub ahead of print 5 November 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312461370 Chen C-W (2014) A review of intelligent algorithm approaches and neural-fuzzy stability criteria for time-delay tension leg platform systems Journal of Vibration and Control 20 (4): 561-575. Epub ahead of print 5 November 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312463759 Lin M-L and Chen C-W (2014) Stability conditions for ecosystem modeling using the fuzzy Lyapunov method Journal of Vibration and Control 20 (2): 290-302. Epub ahead of print 23 October 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312451301 Lin M-L and Chen C-W (2014) Fuzzy neural modeling for n-degree ecosystems using the linear matrix inequality approach Journal of Vibration and Control 20 (1): 82-93. Epub ahead of print 8 October 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312458533 Chen C-W (2013) Applications of the fuzzy-neural Lyapunov criterion to multiple time-delay systems Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (13): 2054-2067. Epub ahead of print 16 August 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312451034 Chen C-W (2013) Neural network-based fuzzy logic parallel distributed compensation controller for structural system Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (11): 1709-1727. Epub ahead of print 22 June 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312442233 Chen C-W, Yeh K, Yang H-C, Liu KFR and Liu C-C (2013) A critical review of structural system control by the large-scaled neural network linear-deferential-inclusion-based criterion Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (11): 1658-1673. Epub ahead of print 18 June 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312443377 Chen C-W, Chen P-C and Chiang W-L (2013) Modified intelligent genetic algorithm-based adaptive neural network control for uncertain structural systems Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (9): 1333-1347. Epub ahead of print 31 May 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546312442232 Hsu W-K, Chiou D-J, Chen C-W, Liu M-Y, Chiang W-L and Huang P-C (2013) Sensitivity of initial damage detection for steel structures using the Hilbert-Huang transform method Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (6): 857-878. Epub ahead of print 29 February 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546311434794 Chen C-W (2013) Delay independent criterion for multiple time-delay systems and its application in building structure control systems Journal of Vibration and Control 19 (3): 395-414. Epub ahead of print 17 January 2012. doi: 10.1177/1077546311429341 Liu T-Y, Chiang W-L, Chen C-W, Hsu W-K, Lin C-W, Chiou D-J and Huang P-C (2012) Structural system identification for vibration bridges using the Hilbert–Huang transform Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (13): 1939-1956. Epub ahead of print 14 December 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311428347 Chen C-W (2012) Applications of the fuzzy Lyapunov linear matrix inequality criterion to a chaotic structural system Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (13): 1925-1938. Epub ahead of print 14 December 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311428346 Chen C-W (2012) Applications of linear differential inclusion-based criterion to a nonlinear chaotic system: a critical review Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (12): 1886-1899. Epub ahead of print 14 December 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311428345 Chen C-W, Yeh K, Liu KFR and Lin M-L (2012) Applications of fuzzy control to nonlinear time-delay systems using the linear matrix inequality fuzzy Lyapunov method Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (10): 1561-1574. Epub ahead of print 18 October 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311410765 Yeh K, Chen C-W, Lo DC and Liu KFR (2012) Neural-network fuzzy control for chaotic tuned mass damper systems with time delays Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (6): 785-795. Epub ahead of print 15 August 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311407538 Tseng C-P, Chen C-W and Liu KFR (2012) Risk control allocation model for pressure vessels and piping project Journal of Vibration and Control 18 (3): 385-394. Epub ahead of print 13 July 2011. doi: 10.1177/1077546311403182 Lin M-L and Chen C-W (2011) Stability analysis of community and ecosystem hierarchies using the Lyapunov method Journal of Vibration and Control 17 (13): 1930-1937. Epub ahead of print 9 December 2010. doi: 10.1177/1077546310385737 Chen C-W (2011) Fuzzy control of interconnected structural systems using the fuzzy Lyapunov method Journal of Vibration and Control 17 (11): 1693-1702. Epub ahead of print 23 November 2010. doi: 10.1177/1077546310379625 Liu TY, Chiang WL, Chen CW, Hsu WK, Lu LC and Chu TJ (2011) Identification and monitoring of bridge health from ambient vibration data Journal of Vibration and Control 17 (4): 589-603. Epub ahead of print 12 November 2010. doi: 10.1177/1077546309360049 一直到今天的自由時報才有針對陳震武的報導, 質疑海科大放水, 明天要開會了, 讓我們繼續看下去... http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/focus/paper/795585 學者質疑海科大因蔣護航陳震武 -- 剛剛找了一下, 陳震武大學時是海洋大學河海工程系畢業的 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.71.218.222 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/AfterPhD/M.1405271801.A.070.html

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論文審查造假不等於論文本身有問題,不過弟弟有沒有藉此樂中
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此道(知情後更投入),則是可以看發表的情況並從通訊掛名調查
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至於蔣督導責任,明明可在高點做些事,卻把自己縮成一般學者
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這些文章都沒有掛名Chen CY,一樣被撤.一樣是假審查
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難道也可以推給ChenCY? 還是ChenCW自己也在玩? 都是 Peter
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所以才猜說,弟弟是不是有食髓知味的情況阿
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這表示Chen CW送出去的推薦審查名單也包含人頭帳號囉?
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CW Chen從2010年從樹德換到高雄海洋,2012年2月升教授
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上面有多篇都是第一作者跟單一作者,看來問題不小....
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時間點又橫跨2010~2014,狀況很多....
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但是要定罪,還是要科技部寫信給期刊的前Editor作確認
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2011獲核准領彈性薪資一年50萬
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前有已經曝光的哥哥屍體當擋箭牌 後有知名度更高的大魔王出來坦
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剛剛好可以在夾縫裡生存 姆哈哈~~
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若是副教授或是教授升等時的代表著作(參考著作)被撤銷,那
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升等案還有效嗎?
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升等案如果是代表作,大概是會撤銷。但這個問題已經不
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是升等案要不要撤銷問題,而是教師資格能不能保的住。
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最後一篇有蔣偉寧 沒有陳震遠!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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看樣子弟弟也閃不掉了
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學術界這種兄弟檔或夫妻檔的似乎蠻多的,為了往上爬怪步很
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多。
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蘋果日報-最新:陳震武涉論文造假風暴 雄檢考慮分案
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下一步先把科技部的著作目錄清掉。啊~清完了?
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陳震武真是奇才2006~2012助理教授升到教授,中間又念個博士
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今天看新聞幾乎萬箭齊發,科技部、監察院、地檢署都要
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調查的情況下,學校一定會有壓力及考量....
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有人提出很有趣的說法:審查過程有問題不代表論文造假。
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那我問個簡單的問題就好:假如論文的品質沒問題,
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沒有很有趣啊, 很正常的說法.
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投稿的作者為什麼要開分身帳號來審自己的文章?請解釋一下
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有人是必要的時候說謊, 有人是無時無刻都在說謊.
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你無法說他說的一定是錯的, 只是你不會信任他而己.
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再掰啊。當大家都沒進過學沒投過稿沒審過稿嗎?
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被吐嘈就說別人在掰 ﹨(╯▽╰)∕
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這裡不是你的噗浪,不想聽不同的聲音,可以回噗浪自己回自己
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那你有回應我要的解釋嗎?論文沒問題為什麼要開分身審?
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既然要投稿到國際期刊,就要照國際標準辦事。很難懂嗎?
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不能既想要登上國際期刊,又要照島內模式辦事。
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挑明了講:如果論文沒問題,為什麼不能不願不敢讓別人審?
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論文抄襲,造假,論文品質低落,審查有問題等,是個別的名詞
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都是可區別的狀況,當然也可能相關情況,而後者需調查與證據
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像我們以前常懷疑PNAS有些審查放水有問題,但不至於說造假
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此事,審查有問題是果,至於內容事涉造假? 有待如w兄來指出
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不論這些被撤銷的文章,內容是否禁得起其他學者的考驗
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我比較想知道:審查過程有問題,甚至根本是假審查,或沒有
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審查,不就表示這些論文等同於未發表的研究成果?這些被撤
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銷的論文,還會有其他期刊願意接受嗎?或是SAGE願意找其他
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學者再審查這些論文?若這些後續過程都沒有發生,那麼這些
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年,憑藉著這些被撤銷文章而獲取的東西,研究成果、經費、
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甚至升等,要不要一併檢視?這才是為什麼要追究有哪些作者
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的原因。你真的不知道陳震遠造假審查,這可以說服大眾,但
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若你在不知情的情形下而得利,是否要繳還那些利益?
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我提供一下 CW Chen 的著作資料網址
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光 2012, 一年的 journal 就出了23篇, 真是高手
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我自嘆不如
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