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作者: sevenfeet - 發表於 2025/02/15 22:23(10月前)
2FYMGee: 台正常了02/16 00:29
3FYMGee: 日本想要經營美國鋼鐵這種落後產業 都不准了02/16 00:29
4FYMGee: 怎麼會給台積電吞併intel? intel只能是它們自己人能吃 這02/16 00:29
5FYMGee: 是常識吧02/16 00:29
6FYMGee: 那就變成台積電負責讓intel營利 但不准經營了02/16 00:29
7FYMGee: 這大概是只剩這種模式了02/16 00:29
8FYMGee: 怎麼讓intel獲利 就是交intel怎麼調參數怎麼使用相關授權02/16 00:29
9FYMGee: 專利技術 我猜應該是這樣02/16 00:29
10FYMGee: intel賺錢後 後面炸起台積電會讓intel發大財 不炸都對不起02/16 00:29
11FYMGee: 它們自己02/16 00:29
12FYMGee: ※ 引述《DrowningPool (My broken dreams)》之銘言:02/16 00:29
13FYMGee: : 原文標題:白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外國02/16 00:29
31FYMGee: 企業營運02/16 00:29
14FYMGee: 企業營運02/16 00:29
38FYMGee: 企業營運02/16 00:29
15FYMGee: : 報導白宮官員說川川不會支持給外國人營運02/16 00:29
16FYMGee: : 不支持外國公司直接營運 (X02/16 00:29
17FYMGee: : 請給我黃金 (002/16 00:29
18FYMGee: --02/16 00:29
19FYMGee: --02/16 00:29
20FYMGee: ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.77.59.106 (02/16 00:29
21FYMGee: 臺灣)02/16 00:29
22FYMGee: ※ 作者: david190 2025-02-15 16:27:5002/16 00:29
23FYMGee: ※ 文章代碼(AID): #1di508v2 (Stock)02/16 00:29
24FYMGee: ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Stock/M.173960807202/16 00:29
25FYMGee: .A.E42.html02/16 00:29
26FYMGee: ※ 同主題文章:02/16 00:29
27FYMGee: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外國企業02/16 00:29
28FYMGee: 營運02/16 00:29
29FYMGee: 02-15 10:55 DrowningPool.02/16 00:29
30FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外國02/16 00:29
37FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外國02/16 00:29
32FYMGee: 02-15 11:55 dreambreaken.02/16 00:29
40FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外02/16 00:29
35FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外02/16 00:29
42FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外02/16 00:29
33FYMGee: Re: [新聞] 白宮官員:川普可能不支持英特爾美國廠由外02/16 00:29
34FYMGee: 02-15 12:17 redbeansyrup.02/16 00:29
36FYMGee: 02-15 14:09 lovepork.02/16 00:29
39FYMGee: 02-15 16:27 david190.02/16 00:29
41FYMGee: 02-15 19:23 afacebook.02/16 00:29
43FYMGee: 02-15 20:14 joking9923.02/16 00:29
44FYMGee: ※ 編輯: david190 (42.77.59.106 臺灣), 02/15/2025 16:202/16 00:29
45FYMGee: 9:1302/16 00:29
46FYMGee: → jokem: 日本兒子不可以吃美鋼 台灣只能被肛1F 02/15 102/16 00:29
47FYMGee: 6:2802/16 00:29
48FYMGee: 推 tlcam4507: 超白爛 教對手技術2F 02/15 16:2902/16 00:29
49FYMGee: 不是 你可以不教阿 但你敢嗎?02/16 00:29
50FYMGee: ※ 編輯: david190 (42.77.59.106 臺灣), 02/15/2025 16:302/16 00:29
51FYMGee: 1:3602/16 00:29
52FYMGee: 推 lovepork: 我想到地球人回工程師母星的情節3F 02/15 1602/16 00:29
53FYMGee: :3102/16 00:29
54FYMGee: → dferww55: 一次性技轉換點乾股及和平發展機遇還是可以02/16 00:29
55FYMGee: 的,我不認為intel就能因此取代台積,頂多從原本垂死變成02/16 00:29
56FYMGee: 還能活而已02/16 00:29
57FYMGee: 去買下Intel 才是真正餿主意,變長期背著拖後腿的,美國也02/16 00:29
58FYMGee: 不會準的4F 02/15 16:3202/16 00:29
59FYMGee: 推 cleanx: 川普是要技術,不同意被併,他是流氓!9F 02/102/16 00:29
60FYMGee: 5 16:3402/16 00:29
61FYMGee: 推 Usmall857: 不給技術會怎樣嗎?台積電直接下市?10F 0202/16 00:30
62FYMGee: /15 16:3502/16 00:30
63FYMGee: 推 lovepork: 美國後手拳已經準備好了11F 02/15 16:3602/16 00:30
64FYMGee: → dferww55: 其實硬起來,確實他也沒太多辦法,總不可能02/16 00:30
65FYMGee: 拿槍壓著去上班吧?搞死台積一堆美企也會死,只是若是一直02/16 00:30
66FYMGee: 找麻煩,也會很煩12F 02/15 16:3702/16 00:30
67FYMGee: → timidwei: 上面叫你給 你就得給 想變同路人?15F 02/1502/16 00:30
68FYMGee: 16:3702/16 00:30
69FYMGee: → lovepork: 反托拉斯法等著拿來對付台積電16F 02/15 16:02/16 00:30
70FYMGee: 3802/16 00:30
71FYMGee: → dferww55: 若是我,我寧願合作但要點好處,不要說白給02/16 00:30
72FYMGee: ,也不能把自己搭進去02/16 00:30
73FYMGee: 合資我一定不要,給技術換乾股加不找麻煩,我覺得可談17F02/16 00:30
74FYMGee: 02/15 16:3902/16 00:30
75FYMGee: → tearcolor: 也不是教完技術就會了啦02/16 00:30
76FYMGee: 要有人做呀21F 02/15 16:4102/16 00:30
77FYMGee: → dferww55: 美國人做事你可以放心,技術給了他就能做很02/16 00:30
78FYMGee: 好?我看是不容易,但我技術給了啊,你怪不得我,我還有乾02/16 00:30
79FYMGee: 股可領23F 02/15 16:4102/16 00:30
80FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 我早講當初早該自己提早下跪降價設廠,台積02/16 00:30
81FYMGee: 電就是皮還在等風向,越等條件只會越差,等到後面你就不用02/16 00:30
82FYMGee: 去了,人家幫你安排好了,脖子洗乾淨就好,笑死!26F 02/102/16 00:30
83FYMGee: 5 16:4102/16 00:30
84FYMGee: → dferww55: 早去那可是民主黨政績,要怎麼讓川普交差?202/16 00:30
85FYMGee: 9F 02/15 16:4302/16 00:30
86FYMGee: 噓 home10272: 技術就是oncall 美國人根本沒辦法 還不懂3002/16 00:30
87FYMGee: F 02/15 16:4402/16 00:30
88FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 早去就是要你當蜥蜴人啦!川普選上到過年那02/16 00:30
89FYMGee: 段時間還有得談,人家還沒開始要制裁,去說要幫忙川普讓美02/16 00:30
90FYMGee: 國再次偉大,多給牛肉多下跪,跟川普握握手,搞到現在這樣02/16 00:30
91FYMGee: 只有一個慘字,笑死!31F 02/15 16:4602/16 00:30
92FYMGee: 推 alphish: 講得intel工程師都很笨一樣 人家是懶不是笨302/16 00:30
93FYMGee: 5F 02/15 16:4602/16 00:30
94FYMGee: 噓 amos30627: 怎麼可能 技術完全不一樣 教什麼36F 02/1502/16 00:30
95FYMGee: 16:4702/16 00:30
96FYMGee: → alphish: 要intel跟GG一樣收入一樣工時 怎麼可能不賺02/16 00:30
97FYMGee: 錢37F 02/15 16:4702/16 00:30
98FYMGee: 推 gn7722: 怎麼沒有台積電賣給美國的選項,一股只能賣30002/16 00:30
99FYMGee: 台幣38F 02/15 16:4802/16 00:30
100FYMGee: → duriamon: 連蜥蜴人選舉臭川普選後馬上下跪,這樣都不02/16 00:30
101FYMGee: 會當,台積電老害真的是一堆巨嬰,平常霸凌下屬習慣了,現02/16 00:30
102FYMGee: 在換被川普霸凌就全傻了是吧?呵呵!39F 02/15 16:4802/16 00:30
103FYMGee: → gn7722: 什麼讓英特爾怎樣太麻煩了吧?直接就台積電給02/16 00:30
104FYMGee: 英特爾合併,一股100台幣收42F 02/15 16:4902/16 00:30
105FYMGee: → tearcolor: 半夜地震,美國人不會立刻衝fab吧44F 02/1502/16 00:30
108FYMGee: 16:5002/16 00:30
106FYMGee: 16:5002/16 00:30
107FYMGee: 推 Usmall857: 一路看來….川普根本不懂半導體,45F 02/1502/16 00:30
109FYMGee: 推 alphish: 半夜地震 工程師會先開車去自己郊外的地堡朵02/16 00:30
110FYMGee: 好46F 02/15 16:5102/16 00:30
111FYMGee: → amos30627: 又不會地震 又沒有蓋在地震帶47F 02/15 16:02/16 00:30
112FYMGee: 5102/16 00:30
113FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 但川普懂地緣政治,這點就足夠吃死台積電了02/16 00:30
114FYMGee: !半導體技術是什麼?那些阿宅工程師們繼續吹吧!吹完發現02/16 00:30
115FYMGee: 人家直接看破你弱點,前面的吹都只是耍猴戲,呵呵!48F 0202/16 00:30
116FYMGee: /15 16:5202/16 00:30
117FYMGee: → tearcolor: 三年多的時間夠救回I嘛?02/16 00:30
118FYMGee: 哪怕台積真的認真起來51F 02/15 16:5302/16 00:30
119FYMGee: 推 Usmall857: Nv要回補缺口了川普到底會不會打?53F 02/102/16 00:30
120FYMGee: 5 16:5402/16 00:30
121FYMGee: 推 snaketsai: 反托拉斯法真的搞下去,還得飛去美國坐牢的02/16 00:31
122FYMGee: ,當年面板事件,奇美電在內的七個人還得專程從台灣飛去美02/16 00:31
123FYMGee: 國服刑,而且還不是去白領監獄,是跟那些煙毒犯小偷強盜關02/16 00:31
124FYMGee: 在一起、有一個後來出回憶錄的說他請家人寄一些專業書籍還02/16 00:31
125FYMGee: 被獄方丟掉54F 02/15 16:5402/16 00:31
126FYMGee: → duriamon: 救不救得起來不是重點,你台積電的先進技術02/16 00:31
127FYMGee: 跟生產必須要被美國掌握,這樣中美競爭或戰爭才有籌碼,誰02/16 00:31
128FYMGee: 管你台積電能不能獲利啊?還在台積電得在台灣的人是不是腦02/16 00:31
129FYMGee: 袋轉不過來啊?笑死!59F 02/15 16:5502/16 00:31
130FYMGee: → snaketsai: 因為怕你書裡面藏毒品槍枝63F 02/15 16:5502/16 00:31
131FYMGee: 推 tsukirit: 亞歷桑那直接掛 Intel,員工變intel不就救起02/16 00:31
132FYMGee: 來了64F 02/15 16:5802/16 00:31
133FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 員工掛intel還不行,要現在美積電的模式才行02/16 00:31
134FYMGee: ,白班美國人輪班加班台灣人,台灣人不給你組工會不發綠卡02/16 00:31
135FYMGee: ,這樣就可以穩定獲利,呵呵!65F 02/15 17:0002/16 00:31
136FYMGee: 推 breathair: 這樣台積電寧願大大小小廠商供應鏈往美國搬02/16 00:31
137FYMGee: …68F 02/15 17:0402/16 00:31
138FYMGee: 推 snaketsai: 奇美那群人入境時的心情怎麼想都覺得悲哀吧02/16 00:31
139FYMGee: ,你們老美自己做事也沒多乾淨,川普最近甚至施壓司法部放02/16 00:31
140FYMGee: 棄起訴賄賂外國政府的美商,然後台灣人就只能乖乖給你關6902/16 00:31
141FYMGee: F 02/15 17:0502/16 00:31
142FYMGee: → loveadu: 美國弄廣場協議就好,有本錢才可以談,棋子的02/16 00:31
143FYMGee: 妄想73F 02/15 17:0802/16 00:31
144FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 不是不可以談,是根本不會談判,要迎合川普02/16 00:31
145FYMGee: 提的政策幫他美國偉大,打入他的核心團隊,人家孫正義都懂02/16 00:31
146FYMGee: ,台積電不懂,台灣的王牌公司就這種程度真的很可悲,呵呵02/16 00:31
147FYMGee: !74F 02/15 17:1002/16 00:31
148FYMGee: 推 judavida: 匹夫無罪, 懷璧其罪78F 02/15 17:1202/16 00:31
149FYMGee: → duriamon: 孫正義雖然當了OpenAI的冤大頭,但起碼人家02/16 00:31
150FYMGee: 進到了川普的核心,反觀台積電呢?大概在拆家準備門都沒有02/16 00:31
151FYMGee: 吧?呵呵!79F 02/15 17:1302/16 00:31
152FYMGee: 噓 squelch: 他進核心 誰說的? 他只有負責出錢啊 誰說他02/16 00:31
153FYMGee: 有經營管理所有權?82F 02/15 17:1702/16 00:31
154FYMGee: → SabreN: 教怎麼調參數就會生產喔?你這種外行人不用硬02/16 00:31
155FYMGee: 要出來丟臉吧XD84F 02/15 17:1902/16 00:31
156FYMGee: 推 duriamon: 他進了川普的讓美國偉大計畫之中當然是進了02/16 00:31
157FYMGee: 核心,你台積電在哪裡?我沒看到老魏有跟川普握手拍照啊?02/16 00:31
158FYMGee: 86F 02/15 17:2002/16 00:31
159FYMGee: → SabreN: 一堆明明是低端的,一直想表現自己的無知XD88F02/16 00:31
160FYMGee: 02/15 17:2102/16 00:31
161FYMGee: 我白癡 我低端無知 那又如何 不准讓白癡講兩三句話了嗎?02/16 00:31
162FYMGee: → duriamon: 現在是不在計畫中的台積電以為自己比進了計02/16 00:31
163FYMGee: 畫的軟銀厲害是吧?02/16 00:31
164FYMGee: 就這跪著要飯掙錢的位子,你台積電現在連跪位預定都還沒個02/16 00:31
165FYMGee: 門呢!笑死!89F 02/15 17:2102/16 00:31
166FYMGee: ※ 編輯: david190 (42.77.59.106 臺灣), 02/15/2025 17:302/16 00:31
167FYMGee: 2:3002/16 00:31
168FYMGee: 推 a72242001: 講坦白的 當初CC公開講 台積變美積 「門都02/16 00:31
169FYMGee: 沒有」鐵定有人回報給美國 等到現在才要開始慢慢跟他算帳.02/16 00:31
170FYMGee: ..93F 02/15 17:3402/16 00:31
171FYMGee: 推 Introversion: 日本兒子不可以吃美鋼 台灣只能被肛95F02/16 00:31
172FYMGee: 02/15 17:4202/16 00:31
173FYMGee: → talentsu: 教到會做,但不保證賺錢96F 02/15 17:4402/16 00:31
174FYMGee: 推 gayx2: 我比較好奇的是,現在一堆人吵教技術,但我記得02/16 00:31
175FYMGee: intel的先進製程技術其實不輸啊…只是良率與產量沒那麼好902/16 00:31
176FYMGee: 7F 02/15 17:4502/16 00:31
177FYMGee: 推 ZXCWS: 賺錢靠量產跟良率 這是台灣強項美國人02/16 00:31
178FYMGee: 弱項 把整個Intel fab換個60%以上台灣人02/16 00:31
179FYMGee: 才有救 老美怎麼可能接受台積“文化”100F 02/15 17:5402/16 00:31
180FYMGee: 推 lusifa2007: 負責讓晶圓製造業務盈利但不准經營 你在供02/16 00:31
181FYMGee: 三小 不經營怎麼盈利 以為牙膏拿到技術就能盈利?103F 02/02/16 00:32
182FYMGee: 15 17:5602/16 00:32
183FYMGee: 推 gabelle: 被強迫吃川普懶叫,真慘105F 02/15 18:3502/16 00:32
184FYMGee: 推 Eliad: 如果能把毛利率降到比較合理3~4%,這樣對消費02/16 00:32
185FYMGee: 者是好事02/16 00:32
186FYMGee: 現在一個iphone晶片成本就快5000,毛利率60%等於一片要賺02/16 00:32
187FYMGee: 3000,,如果降到一片賺100,手機會便宜很多106F 02/15 18:02/16 00:32
188FYMGee: 4402/16 00:32
189FYMGee: 推 weiweiing: 推文好多政治風向奇才110F 02/15 18:5002/16 00:32
190FYMGee: → Tsucomi69: 被迫免費授權cc111F 02/15 19:0502/16 00:32
191FYMGee: 噓 thoms: 可悲的G酸G黑 是不是曾經因為GG賠過錢112F 02/102/16 00:32
192FYMGee: 5 20:2302/16 00:32
193FYMGee: 噓 phoenixtwo: 你都不幹的事 為何覺得別人會幹02/16 00:32
194FYMGee: 不賺錢的東西收起來就好113F 02/15 20:4102/16 00:32
195FYMGee: --02/16 00:32
196FYMGee: --02/16 00:32
197FYMGee: 作者 david190 的最新發文:02/16 00:32
198FYMGee: +2 Re: [新聞] 涉串證致鄭文燦被押 他遭爆別稱「小鄭文 -02/16 00:32
199FYMGee: Gossiping 板02/16 00:32
200FYMGee: 8F 2推02/16 00:32
201FYMGee: +1 [問卦] 溫度高的地方 為何不多不能做供冷站? - Gossipi02/16 00:32
202FYMGee: ng 板02/16 00:32
203FYMGee: 12F 3推 2噓02/16 00:32
204FYMGee: +2 Re: [新聞] 寶林茶室污染源來自中國?王必勝曝「原料來02/16 00:32
205FYMGee: 源地」 - Gossiping 板02/16 00:32
206FYMGee: 6F 2推02/16 00:32
207FYMGee: +6 Re: [問卦] 米酵菌酸是很少見嗎 - Gossiping 板02/16 00:32
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