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3F推:感謝分享, 純推不下。09/14 20:48
5F推:官網有寫, 裝飾有永久, 其他都是30天。(道具忘了)09/01 17:48
8F推:純推不下, 感謝分享。09/01 18:11
3F推:應該是去遊戲裡面的購物商場, 有個輸入優惠券編號。06/24 18:25
4F→:輸入之後就可以拿到應有的獎勵吧!06/24 18:25
1F→:感謝分享..那能力值實在驚人orz06/21 22:50
2F推:用比較好理解的方式來講就是:06/21 22:51
3F→:一開始就吃一顆水球的睏寶, 最大速度比睏寶快的角色06/21 22:52
4F→:哦..補充, 初始速度也是多一雙鞋子。06/21 22:52
5F→:不曉得為何, 看來看去只有囡囡、睏寶讓我喜愛。06/21 22:53
6F→:大概是對於水球計算有堅持做到精簡, 所以不愛多餘的06/21 22:53
7F→:水球讓自己揮霍吧。06/21 22:53
2F推:所以嚴格說來, 現在野戰08感覺就像海14當時亂V為主流06/21 22:47
3F→:的階段, 還沒完全發展吧..那時候亂V盛行時很多影片都06/21 22:47
4F→:只能跟路人打來造成視覺效果、華麗氣氛; 總覺得很期06/21 22:48
5F→:待看到野戰08高手對決的影片。06/21 22:48
6F→:感謝你替我解惑, 一直以來對野戰08這部份毫無見解。06/21 22:49
14F推:呃..我想你可能誤解了, 其實據我所認識的海14高手才06/22 21:13
15F→:是低調的, 相對地很自以為的那些都屬於半調子。06/22 21:13
16F→:直接說野戰08、海14哪個技術難似乎有失客觀。06/22 21:14
17F→:野戰08記熟圖釘位置, 海14則需熟練時間差。06/22 21:14
18F→:況且就我這樣看, 野戰08高手的基本條件似乎為優雅小06/22 21:16
19F→:蜜桃使用者, 囡囡高手並不多見。06/22 21:16
20F→:(更正: 幾乎沒看過囡囡高手。)06/22 21:16
21F→:打法也多偏向補到整排, 要說難度的話並沒有明顯差異06/22 21:17
22F→:吧。不同地圖各有各的難處, 我想你可能要修正評價。06/22 21:17
23F→:虧我這海14玩家這麼贊同野戰08有難度, 你的回覆實在06/22 21:18
24F→:是讓我有點失望呀......。06/22 21:18
25F→:另外我想「很少人有興趣研究」與「技術難而很少人懂06/22 21:19
26F→:」有差異。地圖愛好主流與非主流本來就有差, 看到多06/22 21:20
27F→:人玩有興趣研究就會去玩; 野戰08比較少房, 有可能因06/22 21:20
28F→:此願意研究的不多。至少我同意野戰08有技術, 但無法06/22 21:21
29F→:認同你說的海14好上手; 至少如果要成為頂尖高手海1406/22 21:21
30F→:與野戰08一樣要具備很多技術才行。06/22 21:21
31F→:不過我也一年多沒玩了, 不曉得現在海14普通玩家的水06/22 21:23
32F→:準是否有降低, 以造成你認為海14簡單的結果。06/22 21:23
36F→:抱歉要出門了, 同樣的問題我也回問你 :)06/22 21:24
37F→:至少我知道野戰研究不夠多, 所以不會直接給評價; 同06/22 21:25
38F→:樣地你可能也對海14前10% 高手程度沒了解而給予過低06/22 21:25
39F→:的評價。我知道人難免會堅持自己的玩法、喜好比別人06/22 21:25
40F→:的有難度、有特別性, 然而我抱持的就是個尊重:06/22 21:26
41F→:野戰08確實有它的技術性及難度在 :)06/22 21:26
54F推:啊我是真的有事要出門了, 你誤會了 ;p06/23 00:38
55F→:從以前海14為主流, 同地圖的玩家爭論哪個玩法強, 到06/23 00:39
56F→:現在甚至是哪個地圖比較難, 好像不管在哪都會碰到有06/23 00:39
57F→:這樣的玩家。先回覆你所說的, 身為海14玩家我並沒有06/23 00:39
58F→:特別強調野戰08技術的貧弱性, 反而很能同意這個地圖06/23 00:40
59F→:是有技術的, 然而看見你的評價確實讓人有點失望。06/23 00:40
60F→:我發現我寫完上面這些好像就回答完你那串文字了..。06/23 00:41
61F→:呃呃, 基本上我碰到這樣的情形滿多次了, 其實現在已06/23 00:41
62F→:經學會互相尊重、看看彼此的論點及支持點, 所以我確06/23 00:42
63F→:實是很認真地想知道你更深入的看法。06/23 00:42
64F→:你提到海14的打法必須結合在野戰的一小部份, 這句話06/23 00:42
65F→:本身讓我有了疑問: 海14哪些打法?06/23 00:43
66F→:又, 舉例出來的那些海14打法屬野戰「一小部份」, 那06/23 00:43
67F→:野戰「全部打法」有哪些, 這是身為野戰門外漢我想了06/23 00:43
68F→:解的。算是很少有機會看到野戰玩家這麼熱心, 所以想06/23 00:44
69F→:藉這機會交流了解一下, 感謝你的回覆 :D06/23 00:44
81F推:這個問題太棒了, 如果用比較簡單的話來說就是現在沒06/23 19:36
82F→:辦法像以前那樣沉迷(也可說熱衷)遊戲了, 無論是外在06/23 19:37
83F→:因素還是個人想法等等。我花了大概六、七年的時間在06/23 19:37
84F→:這款遊戲, 海14花了約五年仍覺得還有很多技巧沒辦法06/23 19:37
85F→:實現。那野戰呢? 個人沒有太大興趣, 我指的是練強的06/23 19:38
86F→:興趣, 算是跟想法有關吧, 現在遊戲就是玩玩趣味, 因06/23 19:38
87F→:此我有上線的話也只玩海14, 跟個人喜好有關就是了。06/23 19:39
88F→:故, 我認為跟對野戰有研究的玩家交流是最好的方法。06/23 19:39
89F→:我所說的評價, 是指你說難度上野戰高, 海14易入門。06/23 19:40
90F→:我想在討論的出發點上, 你已將我當作是「不懂得思考06/23 19:41
91F→:技術(或不懂思考野戰玩家思維)的人」。06/23 19:41
92F→:否則怎會說「韓國人都會懂我的思考方向」這句話呢?06/23 19:41
93F→:或許你也不是那麼樂意接受我的看法: 「野戰08有難度,06/23 19:42
94F→:而海14也並不是野戰高手那麼簡單就能摸透的地圖」。06/23 19:42
95F→:所以才會懶得跟我多做解釋吧, 這點我欣然接受。06/23 19:42
96F→:然, 既然是我想發問的, 我先拿出誠意才對。06/23 19:43
97F→:先提提個人對野戰08的見解: 強弱的第一要素應該是在06/23 19:43
98F→:圖釘使用技巧上, 坐乘戰車打法時會稍微變動。06/23 19:44
99F→:依我看影片的心得來說, 就是搭配圖釘來連泡。06/23 19:44
100F→:這點的確是很不簡單的! 強一點的人也可以利用時間差06/23 19:45
101F→:的錯亂讓對手被玩弄。(類似海14飛鏢假動作)06/23 19:45
102F→:也因為地圖被一分為二, 對高手而言似乎彈簧鞋比針還06/23 19:45
103F→:要更重要。(類似海14, 有些高手認為強力膠勝過針。)06/23 19:45
104F→:但也因為地圖剩下一半, 高手要殺人是輕而易舉的。06/23 19:46
105F→:我觀察過戰車打法, 有些技巧還真是不簡單, 如你前幾06/23 19:47
106F→:天有提過的走位等等, 的確需要日積月累練習方能達到!06/23 19:47
107F→:目前這樣看來, 我個人認為野戰08還有發展空間的原因06/23 19:49
108F→:為: 還沒看過高手過招的影片、更沒看過兩人以上的合06/23 19:49
109F→:作進攻。但實在是很喜歡海14這個地圖, 對野戰08沒有06/23 19:50
110F→:想法、提不起勁、也因為私人因素而無法深入了解。06/23 19:50
111F→:還是要說野戰08真的不簡單, 但你也不能否認: 「每種06/23 19:51
112F→:地圖有他的玩法、技術以及難度在, 不可能在一個地圖06/23 19:51
113F→:中就能學到能運用在其他地圖的技巧。」06/23 19:51
114F→:以我們都不是「最愛」的地圖村10為例, 相信你也能明06/23 19:52
115F→:顯看出村10需要的條件是什麼..我想大概就是尊重吧。06/23 19:52
116F→:我可以欣賞野戰08也認為它有難度, 並不代表就可以被06/23 19:52
117F→:人家說海14的技巧只是野戰的「一小部份」。06/23 19:53
118F→:倘若你還是覺得我沒拿出誠意與你交流, 我想我還是默06/23 19:53
119F→:默把那些疑問收起來, 總之不會收回我對野戰的讚美。06/23 19:53
120F→:感謝你的分享, 其實我也快一年沒玩了, 但就是喜歡這06/23 19:54
121F→:款遊戲, 所以會有興趣多與人交流, 感謝分享!06/23 19:54
139F推:還沒看完先澄清一下你第一句話的誤解, 我上面回:06/23 20:42
140F→:「我認為跟對野戰有研究的玩家交流是最好的方法。」06/23 20:42
141F→:說意見不合倒也還好, 嗯..只是覺得從以前到現在, 都06/23 20:43
142F→:還是能看到「堅持自己喜歡的比別人好」之類的想法存06/23 20:44
143F→:在。容許我做個比較無禮的臆測, 可能你與其他玩家在06/23 20:44
144F→:意見交流這方面比較沒經驗, 所以才會這樣堅持。06/23 20:45
145F→:我年輕時也曾經堅持亂V強過刷排這個想法, 但久而久之06/23 20:45
146F→:對技術層面有更深的見解後, 發現太天真了。06/23 20:45
147F→:其實不同的技術都有它的優劣, 並無真正強弱之分。06/23 20:46
148F→:看得出你並無交流的意願, 比較像是想要灌輸、宣導野06/23 20:46
149F→:戰有多複雜、有多厲害, 所以也讓我在最後提一下我的06/23 20:46
150F→:一些看法。在海14, 沒有圖釘可用, 也沒有你所謂的炸06/23 20:47
151F→:彈踢不踢得動之類的複雜問題。然而, 拿掉這一點來說,06/23 20:47
152F→:單就所謂的「亂V」甚至是「刷排」也未必能有效地命中06/23 20:48
153F→:高手。在沒圖釘使用的情況下、場地又比較大, 比的就06/23 20:48
154F→:是實戰經驗跟腦袋了。海14不像野戰08地圖中間有到牆06/23 20:49
155F→:以致於在攻手上其實更為複雜。06/23 20:49
156F→: 守06/23 20:49
157F→:從一開始我交流的立足點就是: 互相尊重、試著了解。06/23 20:50
158F→:但你可能有所誤解, 我跟你意見不合的地方一直以來都06/23 20:51
159F→:只有一個地方: 野戰有難度, 然而海14也有它的難度。06/23 20:51
160F→:說實在這也是滿可憐的地方, 阿給明明玩家夠少了, 但06/23 20:51
161F→:還在玩的玩家似乎有很多仍不懂尊重其他人。06/23 20:52
162F→:照理說碰到同好會很開心、交流才是, 怎麼會是這樣的06/23 20:52
163F→:局面實則讓我不解, 真的很可惜流失那麼多玩家。06/23 20:52
164F→:雖然你是我第一個正式交流的野戰玩家, 但我還是相信06/23 20:52
165F→:有懂得尊重也認同其他地圖的野戰高手。06/23 20:53
166F→:閣下的想法讓我受教了, 我想我不會因噎廢食。06/23 20:53
167F→:若仍有不懂得尊重其他地圖的玩家, 我仍願意交流。06/23 20:54
168F→:再讓我澄清一下: 如果我哪邊發文讓你認為我是虛偽讚06/23 20:55
169F→:美與認同野戰, 我說聲抱歉, 我的確是發自內心說出。06/23 20:56
2F推:感謝分享 :)06/21 22:44
10F推:推好文, 感謝你的分享!06/20 16:29
11F→:看了影片又想問, 如果兩個野戰高手打, 請問碰到對方06/20 16:29
12F→:使用假無敵這招, 有辦法剋嗎?06/20 16:30
13F→:因為一直以來, 對於野戰08似乎沒有看到高手對決, 有06/20 16:30
14F→:的就是你說的: 都是跟路人打。06/20 16:31
15F→:所以滿想看看野戰高手對決的影片!06/20 16:31
1F推:一直以來都有個疑問, 野戰08有沒有很強的囡囡使用者?06/19 21:12
2F→:另外有野戰08高手跟高手的對決影片嗎?06/19 21:13
3F推:更正一下: 睏寶或囡囡, 我看的似乎都是以優雅為主。06/19 21:17
4F→:滿想看看有無對於水球使用精準計算的高手。06/19 21:17
2F推:D06/08 21:16