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1F推:這個不推不行!!就等有人出來講公道話!!!09/21 00:35
2F推:囧 發現原PO是我上次不小心戰到的人 那次很抱歉= =|||09/21 00:39
1F推:囧 請提出相關證物好嗎 比方說網址及抄襲的報導.....09/20 12:31
17F推:"泛綠群眾使用暴力, 照理說中時新聞應該會大做特做"09/20 11:18
18F→:照T大的講法 強調也不對 淡化也不對 你到底認為怎麼作才09/20 11:19
19F→:正確呢??09/20 11:19
20F→:這是我很好奇的XD09/20 11:21
23F→:也許是媒抗版的聲音被聽到了吧 總之是件好事啊09/20 11:34
24F→:為什麼連改進都要質疑呢= =? 不懂......09/20 11:35
30F推:我比較好奇的是T大覺得淡化在哪裡?沒有放成頭條嗎?09/20 11:52
31F→:中時今天還是很大篇幅的放了六版啊??09/20 11:53
36F推:囧 我看了中時了 原來是放在第六版啊....09/20 12:25
37F→:放在第六版很好啊?? 之前不是一直罵過度強調政治嗎??09/20 12:26
59F推:講了半天 t大還是沒講啥是正常處理嘛 就提出個所謂的09/20 21:38
60F→:的"對綠不友善"的觀點 這......09/20 21:39
1F推:比較有爭議性的我想就是媒體資歷不夠的部分吧09/20 00:54
3F→:跟年齡無關 我是覺得資歷完整點會較有說服力09/20 00:57
10F推:可是就這兩條新聞來說 我不覺得有美化或醜化的問題耶09/20 01:10
11F→:青藏鐵路原本就是要很高超的技術 這也是全球公認的09/20 01:11
12F→:只是剛好發生時間相近 容易被拿來比較09/20 01:12
16F推:既然連比較都沒有 又何來美化醜之化之說?? 這點不懂...09/20 01:16
19F推:有啦 中天有報過 我有看過 只是沒有非常深入就是了09/20 01:20
20F→:但是好歹還是做了專題來報09/20 01:21
23F推:我覺得這是角度問題 在報青藏鐵路時是以觀光景點的角度09/20 01:24
24F→:來報 雪山則是以國內重要工程的角度來報09/20 01:25
25F→:要台灣媒體去監督國外工程有無漏洞會不會太誇張了= =09/20 01:25
27F推:這篇是沒有偏頗啦 可是5538篇我還是覺得怪怪的.....09/20 01:28
29F→:媒體批的是下令提早通車的高層吧? 我也有看到媒體報導雪09/20 01:31
31F→:隧人員在開通日祭拜喪命同仁的報導啊....09/20 01:32
32F推:總之 我覺得美化或醜化是有點言過其實了....09/20 01:34
35F→:這點同意 正面肯定雪隧成就的國內媒體的確是很少09/20 01:37
36F→:(我所看到的是幾乎沒有啦= =)09/20 01:39
37F→:喔 拜託 現在討論的是媒體吧 又來搬責任規屬問題= =09/20 01:40
38F推:囧 話說回來 為什麼會討論到這裡來啊= =|||09/20 01:55
43F推:就算是沒有以正面的模式去探討或報導 我也覺得跟帶有政09/20 07:44
44F→:治立場這件事差很多 最多只能說媒體沒有盡責每方面都報09/20 07:45
45F→:導 如果硬要要求媒體報導雪山之工程浩大的話才算愛台灣09/20 07:46
46F→:的話 那不是跟對岸的變相控制媒體相近了???09/20 07:47
53F推:我覺得建設本身性質的問題 因為青藏鐵路是被視為某種觀09/20 11:04
54F→:光景點的(你可以去找旅遊社的計劃案看看)所以媒體會用你09/20 11:04
55F→:所謂的"歌誦"方式去處理也是正常的 何況我不覺得媒體對09/20 11:05
56F→:於這件新聞有比雪隧的新聞有更深入的報導 就像是某種觀ꔠ09/20 11:06
57F→:光的宣傳而已 但是雪隧本身並不是觀光的一部份 也許它09/20 11:07
58F→:有這種潛力 但是連在位的官員也沒想到要以觀光景點的方09/20 11:08
59F→:式來將雪隧作為景點 在這樣的前提下 你要怎麼要求媒體去09/20 11:09
60F→:對這件新聞做所謂的"歌誦"?? 更別提廣電基金會所論及的09/20 11:10
61F→:"美化醜化"的問題了 至於K大提到的國外景點比照辦理也不09/20 11:11
62F→:是沒有 甚至是國內的景點也有新聞介紹過 只是剛好青藏鐵09/20 11:12
63F→:鐵路在那時落成 所以才會有所報導 又剛好跟雪隧落成時09/20 11:13
64F→:間相近 才會被基金會拿來比較 反過來說 如果這條算是國09/20 11:14
65F→:全球矚目的新聞僅以跑馬燈方式報導 也許就會被批"對於國09/20 11:15
66F→:際新聞毫無著墨"吧?? XD09/20 11:16
68F推:但是無可諱言的是它的確有觀光用途 而且媒體是以這個角09/20 11:24
70F→:度所作的報導09/20 11:25
72F→:那你可以去問問相關的政府官員 為何沒有以這個出發點來09/20 11:26
73F→:放大雪隧的觀光角度09/20 11:26
75F→:總之 將美醜化這個問題放在媒體身上 似乎太沉重了點吧?09/20 11:27
77F→:政府官員當初在宣導的時候 為何沒有特別提及其觀光價值09/20 11:28
79F→:? 我覺得雪隧的觀光價值沒有被重視是在這個地方的問題09/20 11:29
83F推:對啊 可是我還是看不出來有醜化的問題在 因為這些問題09/20 11:33
84F→:本身就是存在的了 媒體又要如何去"醜化"呢??09/20 11:33
88F推:我也相信是如此 但是"美醜化"擔子不應該就放在媒體身上09/20 11:39
89F→:至少剛開工及快完工時我都有看到對員工辛苦的相關報導09/20 11:40
91F→:只是報導高層未經學者一致同意就提早使用的報導比報導勞09/20 11:42
93F→:工的新聞多就是了09/20 11:43
94F→:可是中國所提供的正面消息也都是事實啊?你能說因為官方09/20 11:44
96F→:沒提供負面消息就覺得正面消息是"過度美化中國"嗎?09/20 11:44
99F→:就如同A大所講的 關於鐵路對文化衝擊的報導的確較少09/20 11:46
100F→:但是如果是以觀光角度去作為專題的話 我倒是覺得沒必要09/20 11:47
101F→:如此關心非本國的地區吧??09/20 11:48
102F推:如果報這麼多 又會被其它人解讀為"匪國消息佔過多版面"?09/20 11:50
104F推:你能因為報導較消極就說媒體醜化台灣嗎??這變扣帽子了吧09/20 21:51
4F→:樓上 那句話是"為理想犧牲"吧? 我不知道施有說過這句耶09/20 00:56
12F推:並不想在這戰政治 但是"政變是男人浪漫的夢想"這句應是09/20 01:02
13F→:L大個人的解釋吧?09/20 01:02
9F推:國民黨應該有控制吧 可惜民進黨也跟國民黨一樣 沒改革09/20 00:30
34F推:樓上沒錯 可是這篇PO的也是事實 這兩者有衝突嗎???09/20 00:45
39F推:我對原聲明稿沒有意見 因為並沒有偏頗的感覺09/20 00:49
3F推:不認同你最後一句 到底誰才是流氓啊??09/19 23:15
5F→:用非法方式叫人圍群架卻沒人討論到地下電台09/19 23:16
10F推:也對 這裡不是政黑 很抱歉我在這裡ｐｏ政治相關文09/19 23:40
16F推:C大 那裡有些ID是反串的 看看當做博君一笑就好09/19 23:50
19F→:那就跟以前黑特老有人愛PO戰南北文一樣09/19 23:53
21F推:說實話 有些字眼是真的太過份了 我看了也會小不爽 = =09/19 23:55
1F推:地下電台是非法的喔?? 我還以為是合法的.....09/19 22:07
2F→:因為是這種媒體烙人來卻沒有人說要檢討這種媒體09/19 22:08
41F推:我還期待會有人提起地下電台的說........09/19 21:59
48F推:樓上的有點過於激動喔XDDDDD09/20 01:37
73F推: 沒動畫！阿磨偷懶啦～我要靜坐罷推<(‵~(′)>09/19 19:28