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6F推:境界很高的處理辦法12/26 00:13
27F推:這就是魔考的一種12/24 10:30
16F推:古時候小孩早熟 況且他不繼承王位有兄長會繼承12/19 14:21
17F→:與其說不負責任不如說他追尋的東西跟世人不同12/19 14:22
18F→:不過死掉的人都不該享有什麼好評價 即便他真的不錯12/19 14:23
29F推:最高境界是忘記最高境界12/16 00:54
1F推:無限多12/14 21:13
82F推:贊成推廣多菜少肉 比純素更能讓人接受 整體效果會更好12/12 19:26
85F推:B大新警察XDDDDD12/12 19:38
93F推:有外敵入侵加以殺害就是天經地義的事了12/12 19:42
94F→:食用和自衛是合乎道德原則的殺生之因12/12 19:42
116F推:我見到路邊有落葉或落花 會將他們放回土中12/12 20:50
117F→:若是見到單車倒下壓到花草 也會將它扶起12/12 20:51
118F→:或許同樣身為動物 對動物的痛苦比較敏感12/12 20:51
119F→:但我一樣能感受到植物的痛苦12/12 20:52
121F→:請問a 我該吃什麼才好？12/12 20:52
128F推:那你覺得動物會痛苦又有何根據呢？12/12 21:01
131F推:那你又為何無視對植物做的感覺實驗呢？12/12 21:04
132F→:http://tinyurl.com/y873xql12/12 21:05
133F→:簡單說你只是理會自己的同理感而已 不是嗎？12/12 21:06
137F推:那麼請提出合理的反駁12/12 21:10
159F推:假設植物不會痛 但一樣有心靈上的負面反應 而動物兩樣都12/12 21:26
161F→:有 那不是搶一百萬和搶五十萬的差別嗎？12/12 21:27
162F→:如果搶五十萬的人反駁你說 搶一百萬的人比我多 所以有罪12/12 21:27
164F→:我才搶五十萬 應該無罪 你會怎麼想呢？12/12 21:27
166F推:還是a認為心理上的負面反應不能算是損失 只有生理才算？12/12 21:30
167F→:或者說生理比心理的重要性要高上非常非常非常多？12/12 21:32
171F推:所以你是主張吃素一樣有罪 只是比吃肉輕 所以犯輕罪比犯12/12 21:34
172F→:重罪要好 是這樣嗎？12/12 21:34
181F推:那我再退一步 植物是生命 會追求存續而向陽背地 吃植物12/12 21:38
182F→:豈不不尊重他們的求生本能？12/12 21:39
186F→:如果食用是一種惡意行為 那自然萬物豈不都惡意相向？12/12 21:40
188F→:為什麼我們身處大自然這樣一個充滿惡意的環境會感到美好?12/12 21:40
195F推:難道為了口腹之慾而食肉的人沒有消耗到其養份就排出？12/12 21:43
197F→:你最後一句我就十分認同了 既然為了求生就談不上尊重12/12 21:44
199F→:那吃肉與植物在此立基點上上豈不沒有分別12/12 21:45
202F→:我也夢想生存在一個不用相互傷害就可以存續的自然12/12 21:45
205F→:可惜我誕生在這裡 我同情每個我所吃下的生命 但我依然必12/12 21:46
208F→:須吃下他們 來用作未來我實踐夢想世界的基礎 以告慰他們12/12 21:46
209F→:在天之靈 這樣依然有罪嗎？12/12 21:47
212F→:http://blog.yam.com/zoyatami/article/1658210012/12 21:48
216F→:流言終結者做的實驗 他們最後以「無法重複」否決了植物12/12 21:48
217F→:有感覺的論點 但實驗過程的確出現驚人的巧合 我想那株植12/12 21:48
218F→:物只是厭煩了 不想再被當實驗品而已12/12 21:49
220F→:就算你不認同植物有感覺 最起碼也該給他個不可知論吧12/12 21:50
223F→:你對一個人壞 久了他也會麻痺的12/12 21:51
243F推:為何一定要「痛」？植物不能有屬於他們的負面反應嗎？12/12 21:58
264F推:a可以參考一下我貼的實驗第一段20：07～20：5412/12 22:07
320F推:那我也能說殺動物造成他們的痛苦也是神經傳導而已12/12 23:14
321F→:不就像網路傳輸資料而已嗎？12/12 23:15
333F推:卻有辦法根據人的腦波做出回應？？12/12 23:28
336F推:一樣的反應在生物上就不那麼單純了 痛苦要純化也可以說12/12 23:34
337F→:生物電流的傳導 你能接受這麼無情的講法嗎？12/12 23:34
353F推:只要是生命就會求生 只要被妨害就會出現負面的反應12/13 02:09
354F推:如果你只是在意「痛」的話 不妨吃吃魚吧 他們不會「痛」12/13 02:12
355F→:或許魚類在被抓上岸時的掙扎就跟石頭丟到地上再反彈差不12/13 02:13
356F→:多吧12/13 02:13
366F推:a不妨隨手搜尋「魚會痛嗎」之類的關鍵字 會得到更多結果12/13 09:29
378F推:並不矛盾 可以感覺到東西和痛有段距離 簡單說就是遲鈍12/13 18:16
384F推:差不多吧12/13 18:45
11F推:only版的好看12/12 11:18
6F→:從別人跟自己的角度看人生是完全不同的12/11 00:55
7F推:鐵達尼號對傑克和蘿絲來說是悲劇 對凱特和李奧納多來說12/11 01:11
8F→:是喜劇12/11 01:11