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Re: [少年] 獵人的強度平衡又崩壞了
[ Suckcomic ]186 留言, 推噓總分: +21
作者: ckshchen - 發表於 2017/07/13 14:55(6年前)
4Fckshchen: 我講的是最後結果,如果只比素質,那就是強化系最棒啊07/13 15:18
6Fckshchen: 獵人戰鬥有趣就是不是純粹的打飛啊07/13 15:20
12Fckshchen: 我沒說不強啊,但差距是他們不用制約,光靠戰術可以彌07/13 15:27
13Fckshchen: 補的07/13 15:27
16Fckshchen: 所以我才說除非證明大傑就是等於蟻王,不然犧牲生命換得07/13 15:28
17Fckshchen: 瞬間秒殺差距不到絕望的對手之能力vs一小時換一秒不算破07/13 15:28
18Fckshchen: 格07/13 15:28
19Fckshchen: 我要講的就是主命題,平衡有沒有崩壞07/13 15:29
22Fckshchen: 他的論點是大傑可以換到超強能力,酷拉只是全系通07/13 15:30
23Fckshchen: 所以我講的是兩點,代價和報酬07/13 15:31
24Fckshchen: 除非大傑真的就蟻王強度,不然個人覺得報酬沒到破壞平07/13 15:31
25Fckshchen: 衡07/13 15:31
28Fckshchen: 你要一直討論無關念能力設定的,那其實整本書都能刪了,07/13 15:35
29Fckshchen: 反正薔薇無敵07/13 15:35
32Fckshchen: 當然有差,蟻王目前看來是念能力的頂點,會長都無力,如07/13 15:36
33Fckshchen: 果報酬是蟻王強度,這酬勞就很高了07/13 15:36
35Fckshchen: 我講的戰術是念能力的搭配戰術,薔薇不是戰術07/13 15:36
36Fckshchen: ok,你要說拿尼加就他吧,蟻王至少是目前第二07/13 15:37
38Fckshchen: 赤壁之戰叫戰術,直接拿坦克來打弓箭不叫戰術,懂嗎?07/13 15:38
40Fckshchen: 目前看來是啊,你能舉出目前的可能嗎?07/13 15:39
42Fckshchen: 我覺得沒有,拿酷戳打尤匹一拳都難到不行,何況蟻王07/13 15:40
45Fckshchen: 對啊,靠變色龍打尤匹還是難到不行啊07/13 15:41
46Fckshchen: 變色龍,人還是在,蟻王的攻速能閃過會長,解除瞬間可07/13 15:43
47Fckshchen: 能就被秒07/13 15:43
50Fckshchen: 也只有尤匹是多人戰,莫老五你怎麼忽視07/13 15:44
53Fckshchen: 小傑沒制約就讓貓女不敢動了07/13 15:44
55Fckshchen: 我不知道大裹巾出招瞬間還有能不能內部破壞啊,他只登07/13 15:45
56Fckshchen: 場一次07/13 15:45
58Fckshchen: 當然能提啊,普夫沒任何方法逃離07/13 15:46
60Fckshchen: 靠講話又不是靠念能力07/13 15:48
62Fckshchen: 我只討論和念能力本身有關的,你要一下薔薇,一下靠講07/13 15:48
63Fckshchen: 話,那也沒辦法,那些都和念能力運用無關07/13 15:48
67Fckshchen: 他明明就還是被困著啊,哪有出去07/13 15:51
72Fckshchen: 為了你還特地去重看,騙倒莫老五前根本沒逃出煙霧07/13 15:57
73Fckshchen: 便利大裹巾目前只知道能力是包裹東西進去,承受強度什07/13 15:58
74Fckshchen: 麼都未知,更別提神的不在場雖然感受不到,但只要知道人07/13 15:58
75Fckshchen: 在場,可以靠亂打打中07/13 15:58
99Fckshchen: 你找哪一句有寫怕小麥有萬一,有提到的,貼來看07/13 16:45
101Fckshchen: 我前後頁都翻了,沒有寫她怕小麥有萬一,就只有我貼那樣07/13 16:47
105Fckshchen: 你要講監獄鎖,ok啊,目前看來如果煙霧包得起王07/13 16:53
106Fckshchen: 看起來是逃不了,但神的不在場證明包含噴出去的菸嗎?07/13 16:53
117Fckshchen: ok,用這點證明大傑有蟻王實力算說得通07/13 17:00
119Fckshchen: 拿蟻王有動殺意出手和大傑有動殺意出手做比較07/13 17:01
122Fckshchen: 雖然我覺得蟻王錯估貓女程度和大傑拼盡全力有差別就是了07/13 17:01
123Fckshchen: 但至少可以說得通07/13 17:02
143Fckshchen: 有什麼問題嗎?這距離我能砍下他的頭就是敘述距離07/13 17:14
167Fckshchen: ok,我只記得前面解說,是我錯了,有分身逃脫這事07/13 18:02
168Fckshchen: 重點在不會被秒殺啊,會被秒殺叫去拖兩秒幹嘛?07/13 18:03
169Fckshchen: 我今天翻一堆,回一下午就在於不存在秒殺這事07/13 18:03
170Fckshchen: 護衛比較強,沒有疑問,但三護衛各自戰鬥都沒秒殺07/13 18:04
171Fckshchen: 整個秒殺的論點在於那句而已,但我怎麼看都只是寫距離07/13 18:04
174Fckshchen: 摘下是個動作,不是秒殺的意思啊07/13 18:15
[少年] 獵人的強度平衡又崩壞了
[ Suckcomic ]467 留言, 推噓總分: +44
作者: Lex4193 - 發表於 2017/07/12 22:59(6年前)
189Fckshchen: 我懂你的意思是玩RPG,給你使用全職業最強技能,但小傑是07/13 02:42
190Fckshchen: 直接硬加個20等,玩過RPG就知道等級拉高就會差很多,但07/13 02:42
191Fckshchen: 你不知道大傑到底是增加幾等啊,煙斗男可以困死蝴蝶,利07/13 02:42
192Fckshchen: 息在不管同伴死活下能勝尤匹,你很難說差非常大07/13 02:42
Re: [少年] 我的英雄學院
[ Suckcomic ]80 留言, 推噓總分: +23
作者: ckshchen - 發表於 2017/06/24 17:52(6年前)
8Fckshchen: 就是指對綠谷啊,不然呢?06/24 18:09
22Fckshchen: 版規沒有啊,而且只是要說機歪人還是被包容很正常06/25 11:43
23Fckshchen: 喜不喜歡另一回事就是了06/25 11:43
33Fckshchen: 你找版規哪一條說不能現實護航的吧,不要自訂版規06/25 16:11
34Fckshchen: 你訂的版規沒寫不是嗎?06/25 16:12
39Fckshchen: 這又不是什麼幻想理論,只是說明人渣性格的被寬容對待是06/25 16:17
40Fckshchen: 正常的06/25 16:17
64Fckshchen: 哪裡不同你可以講06/25 19:51
Re: [少年] 一拳老師 116
[ Suckcomic ]23 留言, 推噓總分: +11
作者: gologo - 發表於 2017/05/30 01:20(7年前)
19Fckshchen: 黃金佛利沙表示:05/31 14:58
[少年] 一拳-傑諾斯
[ Suckcomic ]24 留言, 推噓總分: +11
作者: ckshchen - 發表於 2017/05/28 18:13(7年前)
9Fckshchen: 鋼金暗器的fu...05/28 18:56
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[ Suckcomic ]143 留言, 推噓總分: +103
作者: doranobi0125 - 發表於 2017/05/25 00:36(7年前)
1Fckshchen: 活在兄弟的陰影之下...05/25 00:38
Re: [少年] 一拳超人
[ Suckcomic ]90 留言, 推噓總分: +26
作者: s386644187 - 發表於 2017/04/29 15:12(7年前)
48Fckshchen: 無冕騎士......= =04/29 18:35
[少年] 王者天下-河了貂
[ Suckcomic ]97 留言, 推噓總分: +48
作者: ckshchen - 發表於 2017/04/25 16:21(7年前)
19Fckshchen: 重點在羌瘣看出來了啊!04/25 18:44
53Fckshchen: 那是昌文04/26 09:16
[少年] 誰會有心情在屍體旁搭訕啊!
[ Suckcomic ]60 留言, 推噓總分: +45
作者: asynchronous - 發表於 2017/04/04 14:26(7年前)
2Fckshchen: 光彥:屍體旁把妹有問題嗎?只是我把不到而已04/04 14:47
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[ Suckcomic ]68 留言, 推噓總分: +23
作者: lotr - 發表於 2017/04/01 12:46(7年前)
1Fckshchen: 可是你喜歡水滸傳.....04/01 12:37