Re: [問題] 為什麼兔寶不吃不喝?
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: 推 lemonade:妞妞加油!!原po也加油!! 11/10 22:22
: → yenan70:加油...醫生有無建議給予餵食鳳梨汁呢?鳳梨好像也助於化毛 11/10 22:24
: → harvest0311:沒有耶，醫生大概認為化毛膏是最快的方式吧@@ 11/10 22:35
: 推 puyumasan:我家兔子也經歷過 鳳梨汁有效 而且兔兔也很愛喔 11/10 22:45
: 推 plmokn:QQ寵物生病主人都會脆弱阿 我兔子生病哭超多次了 11/10 22:45
: → plmokn:只知道自己倒了兔子就一定也會倒 才打起精神照顧兔子 11/10 22:46
: → plmokn:希望大家兔子都健康~ 11/10 22:46
: 推 sxz:鳳梨汁，木瓜丸都可以，醫生有開藥嗎 11/10 23:15
: 推 diary:餵藥時用手蓋住兔寶的眼睛呢？或用嬰兒抱的方式，用手 11/10 23:55
: → diary:稍微擋住光線，針筒趕快從嘴邊側邊塞進去。兔寶都有 11/10 23:56
: → diary:難妥協的地方，多跟他說說話，餵完趕快給甜點，摸摸頭 11/10 23:57
: → diary:我家波奇之前歪頭時也超難餵的，我就已經很擔心他， 11/10 23:58
: → diary:牠還這麼不配合吃藥。但牠們都知道你的擔心，別氣餒。 11/10 23:59
: → diary:如果有餵完化毛膏，可以幫牠輕輕在胃部按摩畫圈圈。 11/11 00:00
: 推 diary:原Po加油，兔寶有你照顧牠，很幸福! 11/11 00:03
: 推 donotpush:針筒塞嘴角,應該會不由自主的嚼著 11/11 00:04
: → harvest0311:給甜點沒用...他什麼都無法吃；而且他好像被我灌怕了 11/11 06:50
: → harvest0311:用布包住頭還是會很用力的甩開針筒，硬塞就不吞嚥， 11/11 06:51
: → harvest0311:直接讓液體流出嘴角QQ今天回去問醫生怎麼辦好了 11/11 06:52
: 推 larle:我比較好奇為什麼醫生前後診斷差別那麼大@@ 11/11 12:38
: 推 reinakai:直接拿浴巾包住兔子全身餵藥呢 動作要快狠準 11/11 13:45
: 推 diary:還是沾一點點化毛膏在針筒口，試著餵看看呢? 11/11 15:42
: 推 mosoun:試試鳳梨汁或化毛膏沾在兔兔身上 清潔時會自己舔掉 11/11 16:19
以下節錄自：Ferrets, Rabbits and Rodents Clinical Medicine and Surgery
Other popular remedies of questionable value include the use of lubricants
(e.g., petroleum laxatives), protein-digesting enzymes (e.g., pineapple for
bromelain and papain), and simethicone. These treatments alone will have no
beneficial effect as they do nothing to return function to the intestinal
tract. Many rabbit associations and websites promote the use of simethicone,
and it appears to have no ill effects. Caution owners against the use of
protein-digesting enzymes, as these can be very irritating to oral mucosa
and potentially gastric mucosa. The risk of gastric ulceration is increased
in anorexic rabbits, and use of these enzymes may exacerbate this.
Very rarely, the mass of material in the stomach is so dehydrated that it
forms a solid, immovable mass and the rabbit fails to respond to medical
treatment. In this case, surgical intervention may be necessary. However,
the prognosis for a successful outcome is greatly reduced in rabbits that
are treated surgically. Anesthesia, pain, stress, and manipulation of the
intestinal tract all exacerbate GI stasis. Complications of hepatic lipidosis
are a common cause of death in these patients.
以下節錄自：Textbook of Rabbit Medicine
Pineapple juice or proteolytic enzymes have been recommended as remedies for
hairballs because they are reputed to dissolve hair. Gillett et al. (1983)
conducted an experiment in which they incubated rabbit hair for up to 3 days
either in papaya, proteolytic enzymes or pineapple juice. The pH of the
solution was adjusted to 2 with hydrochloric acid to mimic conditions in the
rabbit stomach. They found no difference between the treated and untreated
control samples and the authors concluded that none of the enzyme treatments
exhibited any ability to dissolve hair. The success of pineapple juice as a
remedy for gastric stasis might be due to the introduction of liquid into the
stomach that softens the hairball and aids its passage out of the stomach.
Liquid paraffin can be used to soften and lubricate impacted stomach contents.
1983年 Gillett 等人就已經以實驗證實了的事情...
30年過去了...何時大家才願意認清事實呢？
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引述自：Gastrointestinal disease in rabbits 1. Gastric diseases (2012)
Rehydration of patients with gastric stasis or ileus is likely to be more
beneficial than treatment with liquid paraffin, papain enzyme, pineapple juice
or bromelain, which may cause dysbiosis.
※ 編輯: ckvululms 來自: 140.120.114.103 (11/12 16:19)
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"任何"液體！？ 當然是不行阿！ 鹽酸也算液體吧！
給牠們好好的喝一些乾淨的飲用水應該不困難吧？
不要再想東想西了...
好好的給予水份和粗纖維食物（ex:oxbow critical care、Emeraid for herbivore）
"any illness" may cause GI ileus.
重點是去找出導致腸胃蠕動異常的原因
而不是去治標不治本（ex:沒有阻塞時去開胃把停滯在胃的內容物取出)
※ 編輯: ckvululms 來自: 140.120.114.103 (11/15 17:00)
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