Re: [問題] 請問鋸棕櫚使用心得，有人願意分享嗎？

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※ 引述《pantac (安靜北極熊)》之銘言： : 請問誰有吃過鋸棕櫚這種東西嗎？ : 我想知道服用者的心得， : 不論男女。 : 請問有人願意分享嗎？ : 雖然爬文看過有人分享 : 好像只有幾位提到 : 就統計上來說，實例太少 : 希望正式詢問一遍 : 從前陣子很多人問至今，大約有兩三個月以上了 : 應該多了不少新的使用者，有心得吧？ : 謝謝大家幫忙分享，做一下統計吧 :) http://www.raysahelian.com/saw.html 這個網站有很多關於鋸棕櫚內服的討論,有一位學者Dr. Sahelian也會在上面協助答覆. 基本上,目前對於鋸棕櫚內服的效果,還是沒有一個定論,不論在用量,頻率,及有效性上.而這位學者對於內用鋸棕櫚改善落髮的效果也傾向認為不如使用 Finasteride與Dutasteride : My personal opinion is that I suspect, even if saw palmetto has a mild effect, it is not nearly as potent as the drug finasteride - an alpha reductase blocker - used for prostate enlargement (as Proscar) and hair regrowth (as Propecia). I do not know if there is an additive effect to finasteride if saw palmetto is taken along with it. There was a small study a few years ago that showed a potential benefit for hair growth in male pattern baldness when saw palmetto was combined with beta sitosterol. More research is certainly needed before we can come to any conclusions. 但是在最後一則的Q&A中,有一位雄性禿患者提到一個很令人感興趣的經驗 : Rogaine and Propecia didn't help. I am flat out of donor plug material unless they use body hair, which by the way, is being done. I digress. On the internet in 2005 I came across anecdotal stories about the efficacy of saw palmetto for hair loss. I purchased from a Saw Palmetto product and began a regimen of a couple pills in the morning and couple in the evening. The saw palmetto product had Zinc 15 mg - 100%, Selenium 55 mcg - 79%, Saw Palmetto extract 320 mg standardized to 85% fatty acids. No help. I went for six pills morning and six evening. In three days, my hair stopped falling out. Nothing in the comb. Nothing in the shower. If I wait a week to shampoo, THEN I might get 25 to 50 hairs tops. I went from 125 hairs per day, to 125 hairs lost, per month. I didn't grow any new hair, but since 20% of your hair is "at rest" at any one time, that hair began to surface over the next 18 months and the remaining hair, avoiding dormancy, stuck around for company. 18 months is not a quick process. But it made a startling demonstrative difference. I wish I'd have started those pills twenty years ago. 這位患者已做過植髮,但之後用落建和柔配仍然無法止住其它地區的落髮,後來改服粹取320mg的鋸棕櫚(85%脂肪酸),早晚各數顆仍無效,於是不爽把藥量催到早晚各六顆,三天內落髮就大幅改善,原本每天125根變成一個月約125根(這應該有誇飾成份, 原文是說一週洗一次頭髮的落髮量約25~50根),並且18個月後大幅改善外觀(這和柔配的最佳效果期說法差不多).還說如果20年前就這樣用命運一定大不相同!!不過劑量這麼高是否長期有其他問題倒是沒有說明. <心得>國外討論另有一說是一天劑量3000mg以上效果才會顯著.不過不是甚麼正式學術報告就是.也許試著把劑量催高,效果就出現了.同時一天用一次改成用兩次,效果增加的機會也會拉高.不失為目前常見的療法效果不佳的另一條出路. 另外值得一提的是,新的頭髮並沒有再生出來,但是因為當時有20%的毛囊處於休止期,因此在經過約一年半以後,這些休止期頭髮長出來,加上原本生長期很短的頭髮生命延長後,使得整體外觀還有令人驚訝的進步.這應該也是柔配的藥效在一年至兩年間達到最佳的原因. 還有一點,就是板上似乎有不少感到鋸棕櫚有效的案例中,都提到見效很快, 這和CASE中所述的情形一致,也算是一個令人振奮的現象,同時也可以比較快地測試出鋸棕櫚對各人的適用性. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 203.77.65.205 ※ 編輯: BRIGHTDREAM 來自: 203.77.65.205 (01/18 23:48)

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