[轉錄][轉錄][心得] 教科書沒教到的歷史

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※ [本文轉錄自 HatePolitics 看板] 作者: tenshoufly (tenshou) 看板: HatePolitics 標題: [轉錄][心得] 教科書沒教到的歷史 時間: Sat Dec 16 13:21:42 2006 ※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板] 作者: Annrod (是球迷就該high) 站內: Gossiping 標題: [心得] 教科書沒教到的歷史 時間: Fri Dec 15 23:56:38 2006 杜魯門總統:蔣介石一家都是賊! 這篇是紐約時報在蔣宋美齡過世時, 花了相當大的篇幅在說一些台灣人所不知的蔣家歷史 (跟教科書上的內容可是相差甚遠XD) Madame Chiang Kai-shek, a Power in Husband's China and Abroad, Dies at 105 By SETH FAISON October 25, 2003, Saturday http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/international/asia/24CHIANG.html?pagewanted=1&hp 標題:蔣女士,105,中國領導人的寡婦,死亡 Yet historians have documented the murderous path that Chiang Kai-shek led in his efforts to win, then keep, and ultimately lose power. It also became clear in later years that the Chiang family had pocketed hundreds of millions of dollars of American aid intended for the war. 但是歷史學家們紀錄了蔣介石以殘殺手腕,贏取,保有,最終失去權力的過程。 後來幾年,事情變得明朗化,蔣氏家庭A了好幾億用來支援中國抗日和打共產黨 戰爭的美援。 ...... Although Madame Chiang developed a stellar image with the American public, Presimdent Franklin D. Roosevelt and other leaders became disillusioned with her and her husband's despotic and corrupt practices. Eleanor Roosevelt was shocked at Madame Chiang's answer when asked at a dinner at the White House how the Chinese Government would handle a strike by coal miners. Madame Chiang silently drew a sharp fingernail across her neck. "She can talk beautifully about democracy," Mrs. Roosevelt said later. "But she does not know how to live democracy." 雖然蔣女士在美國的公眾輿論裡有一種明星般的形象,法蘭克福‧羅斯福總統和其它領袖 們,對她和她丈夫專制和腐敗的作為感到幻滅。Eleanor羅斯福女士在一場白 宮晚餐中,當問到蔣女士中國政府要如何處理煤礦工人罷工問題的時感到驚恐:蔣女士不 發一語,用尖銳的指甲在她的脖子前比了一比。 「她可以把民主談得很漂亮,但是她不知道如何生活在民主政治裡」羅斯福女士事後說。 ...... By the end of the war, the loyalty of Nationalist officials melted away as the Government grew corrupt and fiscally traitorous, printing money so aggressively that the Chinese currency fell to an exchange rate of several million yuan to the dollar. Many Nationalist soldiers were reduced to begging for food because they went unpaid, yet American diplomats discovered that military supplies sent from the United States to China sometimes appeared on the black market soon after arrival. 戰爭結束前夕,國民政府的官員們對政府的忠誠已消失殆盡。政府愈來愈貪婪, 甚至在財政上叛國,貪得無厭的印鈔票,使得中國對美金的匯率跌到只剩好幾百萬分之一。 許多國民政府的軍隊因沒有薪水而被迫乞討,但是美國外交官員們發現, 從美國送去中國的軍事補給,有時在一抵達中國就出現在黑市上。 ...... Even at the busiest times of war, Madame Chiang often left her husband and disappeared into seclusion in New York for months at a time. The Chiang camp was too secretive to deny rumors about marital troubles, but Madame Chiang's retreats may also have been caused by a debilitating skin condition. 即使再戰爭最緊張的時刻,蔣女士也經常離開她的丈夫, 忽然消失在紐約幾個月,蔣幫因為太神秘而無能反駁有關他們婚姻的謠言, 但是蔣女士的自動消失,或許也肇因於她日益惡化的皮膚狀況。 ...... Madame Chiang went out shopping in her limousine one afternoon, and did not return home by evening. 在上海時,那天蔣女士如常地坐著她的大型加長Limousine上街購物... (這段講到她和毒販頭子杜月笙的恩怨) ..... Madame Chiang made a splash in Washington soon afterward. She spoke forcefully and passionately to Congress, winning a roaring ovation. She then traveled across the country, appearing at Madison Square Garden and at the Hollywood Bowl. But she earned the enmity of American G.I.'s when she returned to China's wartime capital, Chungking, with several suitcases, one of which plopped open to reveal luxurious cosmetics, lingerie and fancy groceries. It was a small sign of the growing corruption within the Nationalists that would speed their undoing. 蔣女士很快的在華府引起風潮,她在國會強有力和熱情的演說,引起了如雷的掌聲, 她然後橫越整個國家,出現在麥迪遜花園廣場和好萊屋Bowl。 但是她同時卻引起了美國軍人對她的厭惡,尤其是她回到戰時的首都重慶, 帶著許多箱的皮箱,其中一個撐開來,露出了裡面奢華的化妝品,私人衣物*[0m 和時髦昂貴的日用品。 *[31;1m這只是國民政府正迅速的走向自我毀滅,逐漸腐敗的小警訊。 *[0m ...... Other American officials in China also warned against the vast amounts of graft among Nationalists. More than $3 billion was appropriated to China during the war, and most of it was transmitted through T.V. Soong, who as China's foreign minister was based in Washington. It later became apparent that the Soong family suffered vicious infighting over the purloined funds. 其他在中國的美國官員也對國民政府偷雞摸狗的腐敗行徑發出警告。 美國在戰時,支援中國超過三十億美元,但是大多數都是宋子文經手, 宋是中國住在華府的財政首長。後來事實顯示,宋家為了分贓這些A來的 美援,搞得家庭很不愉快。 ...... Madame Chiang traveled to Washington again in November 1948 to plead for emergency aid for the war against the Communists. Yet Congress had recently assigned another $1 billion to China, and President Truman was impatient with the Chiangs and what had become an apparently hopeless effort to shore up the Nationalist Government. Madame Chiang never returned to China. 蔣女士在1948年十月到華府來要錢打共產黨,但是美國國會才通過對中國的*[0m 十億援助,此時楚門 (註:教科書翻譯為「杜魯門」) 總統對蔣家夫婦已經 非常沒有耐心,給蔣家錢對於支持國民民政府根本沒有一點幫助。 蔣女士從此沒有再回到中國。 "I can ask the American people for nothing more," she said. "It is either in your hearts to love us, or your hearts have been turned from us." 蔣女士說: 「我不會在向美國人要什麼了,要不是你們愛我們,要不就是你們的心已背離 了我們。」 In her frustration, she publicly likened American politics to 'clodhopping boorishness." Coming after years of generous American support, that irritated Truman. 挫折之下,她公開的將美國政治比喻成「無恥的粗鄙無文」。美國多年來對 蔣家這樣大方的支持,竟然換得這樣的評價,這激怒了楚門。 "They're thieves, every damn one of them," Mr. Truman said later, referring to Nationalist leaders. "They stole $750 million out of the billions that we sent to Chiang. They stole it, and it's invested in real estate down in SAao Paolo and some right here in New York." 「他們是賊,她們每一個人都是賊」,楚門指的是國民政府的領導人, 「他們從我們送給蔣政府的上十億美金裡,偷取了將近七億五千萬美金。 他們偷了這筆錢,而且將這筆錢投資在巴西的聖保羅,以及就在這裡, 紐約的房地產。」 譯者:Fine Tea ========================================= 註1.XX家族在美國早就是有名的貪污集團。 有傳聞說某蔣是因為在中國太過貪污腐敗所以才導致失去政權, (由上面內容也可以印證) 不過這段歷史是絕對不會出現在被竄改過的歷史教科書中。 註2.羅斯福夫人對蔣宋美齡的印象是出現在她的回憶錄中提到的, 當時羅斯福夫人正對美國當時一位勞工團體領袖大傷腦筋, 正好遇到蔣宋美齡來訪,宴客中,羅斯福夫人就順口提起說如果這類人物在中國, 你們會如何處理,後續內容就如上所形容的,羅斯福夫人後來回憶起說,實在對 蔣宋美齡那雙纖纖玉手所擺出的動作印象深刻。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.60.222.75

12/16 00:01,
這很八卦啊 推一下
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12/16 00:00,
同樣也是娶了宋家人的孫文 不曉得有沒有貪
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12/16 00:01,
轉到吱吱版可能不錯
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12/16 00:02,
痿哉蔣皇
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12/16 00:02,
孫文?嘖嘖嘖~也是貪名在外阿~
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12/16 00:02,
M吧~~~
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12/16 00:03,
真的是相差勝遠@@
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12/16 00:05,
M吧
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12/16 00:06,
當時的7億美金再再換算是多少阿??
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12/16 00:07,
都是阿扁的錯呀
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12/16 00:07,
好八卦喔 XD
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12/16 00:07,
這才是看魚逆游的小孩真相啊
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12/16 00:07,
OP 可以不要在戰死人了好嗎?
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12/16 00:08,
嗯 本來就是這樣XD
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12/16 00:09,
真期待獨立後的中國史會怎麼寫....:P
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12/16 00:09,
官方說法:宋家、孔家在美是白手起家
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12/16 00:09,
原來希特勒在他一死,全世界的人都不准說他
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12/16 00:10,
實話了(筆記)
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12/16 00:09,
網站的原文要收錢~可以寄給我嗎?
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12/16 00:09,
全台最大的墳墓
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12/16 00:11,
跟我聽到的差不多
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12/16 00:10,
以前的時代就是這麼黑 黑到你不敢想像
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12/16 00:11,
b兄抱歉我也沒有捏XD 強者是譯者他有Orz
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12/16 00:11,
萎哉民族救星!
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12/16 00:12,
這內容google應該滿多的
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12/16 00:12,
蔣中正應該抓起來邊屍 暴君!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12/16 00:13,
這不是很久了....
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12/16 00:13,
要不是他選對邊, 現在地位應該跟希特勒一樣
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12/16 00:13,
只能說 美帝影響了中國歷史XDD
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12/16 00:14,
版主M文 好黑的八卦
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12/16 00:14,
這就是為什麼某黨不斷灌輸日本南京大屠殺的
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12/16 00:15,
歷史,結果在提到228和白色恐怖時,馬上叫
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12/16 00:15,
某黨:有人的教科書篡改史實
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12/16 00:16,
人不要只看過去,要往前看囧
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12/16 00:16,
不能這麼說啦 屠殺都是真的
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12/16 00:17,
一直回首是看不到未來的
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12/16 00:17,
不是在說那段歷史是假的XD
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12/16 00:17,
而是歷史是借鏡,本來所有的歷史都應該了解
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12/16 00:18,
而不是偏頗的寫出只想讓人知道的一些片段而
12/16 00:18
還有 79 則推文
還有 1 段內文
12/16 02:31,
大家一起來比爛
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12/16 02:42,
某 j 的邏輯真是好啊~
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12/16 03:01,
蔣光頭本來就該死 蓋大墓給他做啥
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12/16 03:23,
很不意外
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12/16 03:42,
當初在大陸,三百萬大軍不到三個月減到20萬
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12/16 03:42,
然後播遷來台,這在全世界戰史上是頭一遭
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12/16 03:43,
為什麼?貪吶!老蔣貪?大家該去看看下面的
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12/16 03:44,
貪法...要不然老毛也不會贏得這麼輕鬆
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12/16 04:04,
這應該要讓台灣人世世代代知道!!
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12/16 10:02,
我平常都是叫他蔣賊的,推
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12/16 10:39,
真要推一下Annrod
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12/16 13:10,
真相推
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12/16 13:23,
隨便啦 反正人都死了
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12/16 13:23,
蔣介石很爛 蔣家很爛 好了,我們現在可以拼經濟了嗎?
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12/16 13:24,
蔣夫人勤政愛民 不要抹黑喔
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12/16 13:24,
沒有啦~~它們意思是,蔣也貪啊~~你怎麼能不讓扁帝貪?? 吱!!
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12/16 13:24,
現在是老蔣又要出來選總統了嗎?
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12/16 13:28,
老梗
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12/16 13:28,
那陳水扁一家.........噗~~~~~~~
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12/16 13:28,
蔣介石很爛 蔣家很爛 好了,我們現在可以拼經濟了嗎?
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12/16 13:28,
三樓的很愛蔣夫人?
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12/16 13:28,
原PO轉來這是想說以前KMT很爛,所以不要支持KMT嗎?XD
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12/16 13:28,
整篇所謂的歷史、真相都發生在五六十年前的外國(中國)
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12/16 13:29,
輸給共產黨就已經顯現出KMT當時很爛了?不過這些還真沒看過
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12/16 13:30,
既然綠的認為台灣優先,拿這些外國史來說嘴要幹嘛?
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12/16 13:31,
蔣介石很爛也死了 現在我們可不能再搞個新國母出來
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12/16 13:31,
看一些電視上的紀錄片,蔣夫人的形象都很好.....(被蒙蔽?)
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12/16 13:32,
這是政黑板還是歷史版 死人對現在的政治經濟有影響嗎씠
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12/16 13:36,
為什麼民進黨總是拿這麼爛的人跟陳水匾比較? 認為有得比嗎?
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12/16 13:39,
就是狗民黨爛才投冥浸洞,可是做爛還一直提歷史?選你幹嘛?
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12/16 13:41,
以後做不好就把一些世界歷史上知名的昏君暴君都拿來比好了
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12/16 13:42,
美國鬥臭蔣只是為了把美國的背叛ROC找下台階
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12/16 13:43,
老蔣不是什麼好東西,可是呆獨更不是什麼好東西,去死
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