[新聞] Tesla在挪威與車主的紛爭落幕了
大約在一年多以前,一群挪威的Tesla車主不滿他們買到的Tesla Model S狂暴模式
不夠快,於是向Tesla提出了集體訴訟。這些車主說他們的P85D馬力根本沒有Tesla
宣稱的有691hp,這影響到了它的加速性能,所以聯合了一百多位車主提出告訴。
經過了將近兩年後,這些車主們與Tesla達成了和解。
Tesla的說法是他們在官網上宣稱的0-100加速只需3.3秒甚至是被低估的,實際上
有第三方測得的數據是3.1秒。
這些車主不滿的原因是Tesla官網寫了P85D具備了前224hp、後467hp的馬達動力
加起來有691hp,但實際上把車拉到馬力機上面去測只有560hp左右
而Tesla對此的解釋是馬達動力必須考慮到電力系統的分配與電池的特性,並不能像
燃油引擎那樣相加(這是真的,土豪哥Let's talk about cars yo有一集有提到)
這件事情的影響就是從此以後Tesla的官網都把馬達動力規格都刪掉了,只提加速成績
所以現在在Tesla官網上都看不到他們用的馬達動力有多少了。
這些提出告訴的車主們(總共有132位車主提告,但挪威有超過1200位車主,看來也是很多
車主們不認同他們提告)最後與Tesla達成和解,Tesla會提供每位車主相當於7700元美金
的現金或是讓他們選擇一些車輛的升級包,例如解鎖狂暴模式、一組新的輪圈、
或是Tesla商店折扣。
Tesla真的還蠻大方的,就因為理解上的差異而不是車子瑕疵就對車主做出賠償
有些傳統車商製造的車真的有瑕疵被抓到了,也大都是只負責修車召回了事
很難看到車商會給車主金錢上的賠償。
Tesla這次花錢了事了,不過也算是又再打了一次廣告做公關
就算真實馬力測得是560hp,一台接近兩噸重的大型車0-100加速只需3.1秒也是很嚇人的
更別說現在最新的P100D已經有人測得了2.4秒的誇張成績
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原文連結:
https://goo.gl/depOaa
原文內容:
Tesla finally settles with disgruntled Model S P85D owners in Norway,
offers cash or upgrades
After almost two years, it looks like the disagreement between Tesla
Model S P85D owners in Norway and the electric automaker over the
representation of the power output of the vehicle is now officially over.
The issue moved from consumer protection agencies to the court and it has
now been resolved out of court after Tesla agreed to partly refund the
owners.
As we previously reported, the issue revolved around the way Tesla was
listing the power of its motors for the Model S P85D, which has two
motors. When first introducing the vehicle, Tesla was marketing the
vehicle as having a combined motor output of 691 hp (467 in the back and
224 in the front).
While those are indeed the correct outputs of each motor, the vehicle was
never able to achieve those numbers due to several other limitations than
only the combined potential output of the motors, like the battery.
Tesla claimed that they always made it clear that the numbers were for
the motors and not the vehicle itself, but some owners felt deceived.
Earlier this year, the Consumer Disputes Commission asked the automaker
to pay 50,000 Norwegian Krones (~$6,000 USD) to each Model S P85D owners.
Following the verdict, a Tesla spokesperson sent us the following
statement:
“Testing done by Tesla and independent third parties has demonstrated
that the Model S P85D’s acceleration and motor power numbers have always
been accurate, even understated. With respect to acceleration, Tesla
described the P85D as having a 0-100 kph time of 3.3 seconds, and Motor
Trend and others actually achieved a time of 3.1 seconds. Similarly, the
motor power numbers used by Tesla were legally required and confirmed as
accurate by European regulatory authorities. Based on this information,
the Consumer Council previously resolved these issues in Tesla’s favor.
Tesla will be reviewing the decision by the Consumer Disputes Commission
to better understand the conclusion that it reached.”
The company later disputed the decision and the matter was going to court
today, but a settlement was reached at the last minute yesterday,
according to local paper Dagens Naeringliv.
Owners were asking for 129,700 Norwegian Krones, which represent the
difference between the Model S 85D and the P85D at the time. The idea
being that those owners would have chosen the former if the power output
difference would have been more clearly defined. Under the terms of the
settlement, Tesla only offers 65,000 krones ($7,700 USD) to each owner or
the option to choose between several other packages, including a ‘
Ludicrous battery upgrade’, a new set of wheels, and Tesla store credits.
DN reports that “most of the 132 Tesla owners” who filed the suit have
agreed to the settlement – though there are about 1,200 Model S P85D
registered in Norway.
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Tesla也不是一開始就給,而是在上法庭前由挪威的Consumer Disputes Commission
來調解,算是和解吧。一般奧客太過分的話可能就不會理他了
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這真的是好事,只是不曉得台灣要如何認定^^
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其實不只一千多台喔,那些1200多位車主指的是85的車主
因為有補助的關係,挪威前幾年Model S賣的很多
13年賣了兩千多台,14年跟15年各賣了4000多台
16年補助減少,人們跑去買其他比較便宜的電動車,但也還有將近2000台
如果再加上Model X 16年賣了大約1000輛,挪威這個地方有一萬多名Tesla車主
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不曉得台灣會怎麼做,比較好的方式當然是直接用儀器測
如果是用前後兩個電機功率相加直接換算成馬力那就太冤枉了
(總覺得台灣會這麼做QQ)
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應該沒有車廠會用馬力機測定當作自己標示的依據吧
大都是直接測量引擎出力來標示
而且Tesla當初是直接公佈前後兩個電機馬力"分別"是多少
他把規格完整揭露反而惹來一身腥
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Tesla明白的標示前電機馬力多少、後電機馬力多少哪來的華而不實?
他又不是隱瞞這兩項資訊直接告訴你車子有691hp
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你這就是雞蛋裡挑骨頭了
誰規定創新就是要標示輪上馬力?
反過來說
若有一間車廠標示了輪上馬力,說他這是創新做法不被笑死才怪
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又在雞蛋裡挑骨頭了
車子跟你講功率多少有幾個人懂它代表什麼意思? 直接換算成馬力告訴你不行嗎?
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噗 這是車子耶! 車子耶! 公佈車子用的電機有多少馬力叫做混沌不清、模糊消費者
好大一頂帽子
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