[情報] 疑似機械馬達忘記關 (23:50更新 證實非機械馬達)

看板bicycle作者時間5年前 (2018/07/16 22:20), 5年前編輯推噓8(807)
留言15則, 10人參與, 5年前最新討論串1/1
2018 環法第8站 倒數17公里事故現場 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZ4CMs-A8s&feature=youtu.be
TREK車手 Toms Skujins:嘿嘿嘿,摔車忘記關(?) 坎爺:幹,俺退休了別tag俺。 --  | ▃▂▆▅▄▄▃▃▃▃▄_=▃▄▅▂▁十` ̄〢∥ ▆▄▃、\ //▄▆▅▃ | | ㄏ_▂、 |▂、 | ︱∥ ˙ ˙ ∥︱ ▊◤ ! ∥| |▂▁▁▂       --

07/16 22:23, 5年前 , 1F
好強的慣性XDDD
07/16 22:23, 1F

07/16 22:26, 5年前 , 2F
三太子玩車輪?
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07/16 22:42, 5年前 , 3F
這轉速,還是再看一下前幾秒
07/16 22:42, 3F

07/16 23:05, 5年前 , 4F
這跟媒體抹黑沒什麼兩樣,明明有另外一個角度的影
07/16 23:05, 4F

07/16 23:05, 5年前 , 5F
片,他前面在轉踏板看傳動有沒有問題
07/16 23:05, 5F

07/16 23:16, 5年前 , 6F

07/16 23:17, 5年前 , 7F
這種早就被澄清的事情貼之前不查證一下嗎?
07/16 23:17, 7F
-- 看來機械馬達已澄清囉 狂賀Toms Skujins誤會澄清 來源:stickybottle 時間July 16th, 2018 http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/video-skujins-wheel-tour-france/ 縮網址:https://goo.gl/7DywzC 原文: Video: Toms Skuji and his spinning back wheel; a closer look Posted on: July 16th, 2018 If you’re on social media, you’ll have seen videos doing the rounds of Tour de France king of the mountains Toms Skuji. The 27-year-old Latvian came down in the same crash as Dan Martin on stage 8 two days ago. His bike, specifically the movement of his back wheel, has been the subject of great debate on social media. Video clips of his wheel spinning while the bike is stationery have proven great fodder for those who believe mechanical doping – hidden motors or magnet-based devices in wheels – are rife in the peloton. A hidden motor, or illegally modified wheel, has never been found in pro cycling. But the UCI is still checking for them. Developments in E-bike technology in recent years definitely make this form of cheating more possible. There has been one case of a hidden motor in international cyclocross racing – which you can read about here. And there’s been a small number of known incidents of hidden motors in amateur cycling, one of which you can read about here. In the Tour de France stage 8 incident, Toms Skuji falls off his bike and then picks himself up, gets his bike sorted out, and gets going again. When he is gathering himself after the crash, his bike is pointed in the wrong way. Because of that, the Trek-Segafredo rider lifts the back end of it and whips it around so it’s facing in the right direction. Some of those commenting on social media have noted the way his back wheel spins very quickly immediately he lifts his back wheel off the ground. A large number of video clips – all from the same angle – have been shared online; with others then weighing in to offer their views. We are normally loath to add to these debates – which are based on a little bit of information (always a dangerous thing). But this particular conversation has gone viral even though there is a very clear explanation, we believe, for the wheel spinning. Let us explain what we mean The weakness of the TV clip is that Toms Skuji is off camera for the few seconds immediately before his wheel spins. It’s a classic case of footage of only part of an incident being shared and conclusions being extrapolated. However, what hasn’t been pointed out is that Skuji’s crash was also captured in Velon’s on-board footage. And, crucially, the aftermath of the crash is also recorded in the Velon clip. There’s two video clips below. The first is the clip that has been shared over and over again on social media – the TV clip. The second is the Velon on-board footage. The first video is pretty straightforward; you see Skuji holding up the back end of his bike as he whips the bike around to face in the right direction. All the while the rear wheel is spinning. At first glance it may look like he ’s lifted the back wheel off the ground and it begins spinning. The second clip is a bit trickier – it’s not of good quality. And it’s best to look at it in two halves. The first portion of the clip shows Skuji directly behind the on-board camera as he and others fall. At that point, because the bike with the camera on it falls to ground in the crash, the camera turns sideways. So if you are watching the Velon clip on a handheld device; it’s best to pause the clip at the point of the crash and then turn your device sideways to view the aftermath of the incident. When you turn your device sideways, keep an eye on the left side of the footage. Skuji is visible bending over his bike putting his chain back on. He lifts the back of the bike from the saddle with his left hand. And with his right hand he pushes his right pedal around to ensure the chain goes back on. He then whips the bike around to face in the right direction. And he doesn’t put the rear wheel back on the ground. So when the wheel comes into view in the regular TV coverage, it is spinning from Skuji having just put the chain back on. The trouble with the TV coverage is that it shows only a tiny fraction of the whole incident. Some people have also commented on how fast the wheel is spinning. But we don ’t think it’s spinning that fast. If it was, the white logos on the rear wheel rim/tyre wouldn’t be visible. Also notice how immediately the back wheel is put back onto the road, it just stops dead. If a motor was pushing this wheel forward, surely the bike jerk forward, even a little, from the pressure of a motor. -- 直接講結論,就是已經有第二部片證實TREK車隊在事故後,企圖把鏈條裝回曲柄, 然後用手操作曲柄讓後輪快速轉動,才會有第一部疑似機械馬達轉動的影片。 -- ※ 編輯: BLABLA007 (114.43.17.5), 07/16/2018 23:50:36

07/17 00:03, 5年前 , 8F
更白話一點 修完落鍊 誰的後輪不會轉啊XD
07/17 00:03, 8F

07/17 07:44, 5年前 , 9F
繞鍊都會去轉動曲柄啊
07/17 07:44, 9F

07/17 11:35, 5年前 , 10F
一堆文組的都覺得藏馬達很容易,比用愛發電簡單
07/17 11:35, 10F

07/17 11:53, 5年前 , 11F
目前技術裝的不著痕跡的確不難啊,沒必要扯文組理組
07/17 11:53, 11F

07/17 11:53, 5年前 , 12F
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07/17 11:55, 5年前 , 13F
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07/17 12:25, 5年前 , 14F
假理組想嗆人卻自曝其短
07/17 12:25, 14F

07/17 12:49, 5年前 , 15F
這裡是自行車板不是八卦版啊 ^^||
07/17 12:49, 15F

07/17 15:34, 5年前 , 16F
欸,我文組的,覺得無聊,啊打錯了,是無辜。
07/17 15:34, 16F

07/17 16:54, 5年前 , 17F
那個電磁輪還是中置電機.... 哪裡可以改!?
07/17 16:54, 17F

07/17 16:54, 5年前 , 18F
我需要! XDD
07/17 16:54, 18F

07/17 17:22, 5年前 , 19F
台灣崔克趁機刷存在感XD
07/17 17:22, 19F

07/17 18:17, 5年前 , 20F
改一個五萬歐...可以買幾台F10
07/17 18:17, 20F

07/21 01:37, 5年前 , 21F
那個價格 怎麼會有藏馬達很簡單的想法XD 5萬歐 都
07/21 01:37, 21F

07/21 01:37, 5年前 , 22F
快可以買雙B了
07/21 01:37, 22F
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