Re: [轉錄][請問] "世紀"到底如何計算與判斷??

看板ask-why作者sgracee5566 (全能宅宅王)時間16年前 (2009/06/22 07:30)推噓1(4推 3噓 21→)

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※ 引述《Oikeiosis (怎麼啦)》之銘言： : 推 TCDE:有沒有人認為單純只是當時的民間計數觀念處於自然數的關係？ 06/20 14:59 : 推 sgracee5566:能不能有哪個頭腦比較清楚的可以從曆法開始探討 06/21 00:11 : → xiaoa:要怎麼說才是"頭腦比較清楚"? 數值"零"比曆法還晚出現... 06/21 19:58 : → Oikeiosis:討論曆法跟這個問題沒有關係啊跟頭腦清不清楚也無關 06/21 22:56 : 推 sgracee5566:看得出來你在回答問題前完全沒試著查資料 06/22 00:49 : 推 Equalmusic:wiki 上說這是一個叫做 Gregorian calendar 的曆法 06/22 01:26 我相信你看的是中文維基既然如此就不須特地翻譯成英文 : 推 xiaoa:即使是我們比較熟悉中國曆法, 也是元年、元旦開始, 接下來就 06/22 06:22 : → xiaoa:是二年、二月、初二. 現代有新紀元計法, 刻意把第0年算進去 06/22 06:24 : → xiaoa:但是也沒有每世紀的第一天為 X1年1月1日 06/22 06:26 : → xiaoa: 改變^^ 不懂跟曆法有什麼關係, 你知道就說說看嘛 06/22 06:28 你這句話似乎與前幾樓的說法瘋狂矛盾更甚至前一樓的說法就有很大的錯誤 Dionysius Exiguus (c.470–c.544) introduced the anno Domini era, which he used to identify the several Easters in his Easter table, but did not use it to date any historical event. When he devised his table, Julian calendar years were identified by naming the consuls who held office that year — he stated that the "present year" was "the consulship of Probus Junior [Flavius Probus]", which he also stated was 525 years "since the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ".[1] How he arrived at that number is unknown. He invented a new system of numbering years to replace the Diocletian years that had been used in an old Easter table because he did not wish to continue the memory of a tyrant who persecuted Christians. Bede (c.672–735) was the first historian to use a BC year, and hence the first one to choose 1 as the origin of the BC era, thus 1 BC, in his Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum (Ecclesiastical history of the English people, 731). Bede did not sequentially number days of the month, weeks of the year, or months of the year, but he did number many of the days of the week using a counting origin of one in Ecclesiastical Latin. Previous Christian histories used anno mundi ("in the year of the world") beginning on the first day of Creation, or anno Adami ("in the year of Adam") beginning at the creation of Adam five days later (the sixth day of Creation week), used by Africanus, or anno Abrahami ("in the year of Abraham") beginning 3,412 years after Creation according to the Septuagint, used by Eusebius, all of which assigned "one" to the year beginning at Creation, or the creation of Adam, or the birth of Abraham, respectively. Bede continued this earlier tradition relative to the AD era. In chapter II of book I of Ecclesiastical history, Bede stated that Julius Caesar invaded Britain "in the year 693 after the building of Rome, but the sixtieth year before the incarnation of our Lord", while stating in chapter III, "in the year of Rome 798, Claudius" also invaded Britain and "within a very few days … concluded the war in … the fortysixth [year] from the incarnation of our Lord".[2] Although both dates are wrong, they are sufficient to conclude that Bede did not include a year zero between BC and AD: 798 查個資料並不會很難喔你看我還幫你節錄下來了 ^.< 資料來源是哪裡就當做給你訓練查資料功力的作業囉看我人多好 ^.< 儘管當時的人們沒有「零」的數字但依然會使用「零」的概念（前面的引文就有了喔沒看到的話快回去翻字典看文喔 ^.<）事實上以第零年紀元的還有一個例子: Anno Mundi http://www.lewisdt.com/research/tab5.gif

但這個例子有點違反邏輯就是了因為事實上 Anno Mundi 有所謂的 Creation year 而 Adam was "born" in the year 0 AM 所以要說原po的問題是因為「沒有自然數0」好像對又好像有點不太對 http://www.lewisdt.com/research/biblicalchronology.html （我想你的查資料功力太差勁了所以這個資料來源一定要附上給你看） -- 這些資料....並不難查吧？ -- 如果你像我一樣沒料，那你就乖乖推文吧。 NY-Yankees -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.119.135.118

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少鬼扯了 year zero條目非常明顯真的有看英文維基早就會發現了只想做表面工夫裝懂被嗆也只是剛剛好而已

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