Re: Everyone hates Vince Carter

看板VinceCarter作者airnark (小花生小小花生小小小花)時間16年前 (2008/04/10 05:30)推噓10(10推 0噓 7→)

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I am not the biggest Vince Carter fan in the world, bit I just don’t get when so-called NBA experts consistently hammer Vince as if he is the worst player on the planet. For example, here is a recent quote from Bill Simmons aka ESPN’s Sports Guy: I don’t blame Kidd for throwing a hissy fit — I would have done the same if I had to play with Vince Carter.” 我不是瘋狂的卡特球迷，我只是認為一些所謂的nba專家們，好像都認為卡特是一個最爛的球星，舉例說最近有一個叫比爾的說：我不會責怪kidd，假如我也跟卡特打球，我也會幹同樣的事！！！ Of course, there were 5 more derogatory jabs at Vince in this article so that Simmons could meet his anti-Vince quota. And he is not the only one. Virtually everyone is convinced that Vince Carter is a terrible basketball player, worthless human being and overall piece of garbage. Sure he’s done a few bonehead things (most notably, pouting for the first 20 games in Toronto during the 04-05 season) and he hasn’t won that many playoff games. Although, he has won 3 more playoff series than Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady and Carmelo Anthony combined. 這邊大概說卡特很爛沒贏過多少季後賽說卡特只贏過三次季後系列賽但比姚天子踢妹跟甜瓜加起來還多＝＝ (這算是在損踢妹他們吧囧) But did this guy steal change from handicapped children or something that I missed? There are a number of players who are terrible guys in the NBA and there are a lot of players making WAY too much money given their performance. Guys who are way worse than Vince and guys who are way more overpaid. Why Vince gets treated so poorly by virtually the entire media just baffles me. I think its just lazy journalists taking the easy road. Its easy to just blame Vince because everyone will accept it. 這邊是說有一些人表現明明比卡特差或者拿的錢根本是overpaid 但是為什麼他們都沒有卡特那麼容易被罵呢？？應該是那些記者太懶惰因為只要罵卡特基本上大家都會接受 > <" Well, lets take an unbiased look at the effect Vince has had on each team he has played on since 2002-2003. The stat I want to use is adjusted +/-. According to www.82games.com: “Adjusted +/- ratings indicate how many additional points are contributed to a team’s scoring margin by a given player in comparison to the league-average player over the span of a typical game (100 offensive and defensive possessions).” Basically, it is a statistic used to measure each players effect on his team’s performance when he is in the game. For example… If a player had an adjusted +/- of +2.0 while he was on court and -2.0 off court that would give him a net adjusted +/- of +4.0. Obviously, the higher your net adjusted +/-, the more important you are to your team’s success. Lets look how Carter stacks up… 科科那我們就來用個測量方式吧 Adjusted +/- ratings 這個可以測量球員在球場上的表現然後批哩啪啦解釋了這公式是啥咪 ( ′-`)y-～ 2002-2003 - On Court: -0.4, Off Court: - 9.0, Net: +8.6 (1st on team) Vince missed a lot of time this year, but was still easily the Raptors most effective player at +8.6. The Raptors were about average when he was on the court (-0.4) and completely terrible when he was not (-9.0). Closest player on team to Carter was Antonio Davis at +6.6. 在2003~2003球季這一年一開始卡特錯失了一些比賽但他仍是暴龍隊中效率最好低卡特在球場上時 +/-是-0.4 不在時是-9.0 整個正分是8.6 全隊只有Davis 比較接近他 \(^▽^)/ 2003-2004 - On Court: -0.1, Off Court: - 9.6, Net: +9.4 (1st on team) Basically the same story as last except Carter didn’t miss any time. His +9.4 was more than double any other Raptor… and Toronto fans wonder why Vince wanted to leave? 接下來只講2003~2004啦正分更恐怖了是+9.4 全隊第一他比任何暴龍球員的績效X2 還厲害科科多倫多球迷真的知道卡特為何要離開嗎？ 2004-2005 - On Court: +3.3, Off Court: - 7.6, Net: +10.9 (3rd on team) Clearly Carter was having a great positive effect on his new team (now the Nets). He was behind Kidd (who was 2nd in the NBA to Tim Duncan) and 0.2 behind Jason Collins. Richard Jefferson… how about -4.3? Of course, in 20 games with the Raptors Carter was horrible at -8.3. You could easily make a case that Carter mailed it in (he basically admitted to)… and I’m sure thats why Raptors fans hate him! 2004~2005年卡特成績在全隊排第三但排第一的kidd 全聯盟也只輸小叮噹而已而卡特在暴龍隊的20場比賽他的績效是-8.3 所以我確定暴龍粉絲們是恨他的 2005-2006 - On Court: +5.4, Off Court: - 10.1, Net: +15.5 (1st on team) Only Dwyane Wade at +15.8 had a better net rating than Carter. 2005~2006年是15.5 只有wade比卡特高啊而卡特也是全隊第一 2006-2007 - On Court: +0.8, Off Court: - 6.6, Net: +7.4 (2nd on team) Kidd had a slightly higher net (+8.3) but Carter is clearly still a very effective player. A lot more effective than say Richard Jefferson at +2.1. Have you ever heard anyone say anything bad about Jefferson? Me neither. But Carter is a much more effective player. 2006~2007 卡特成績是全隊第二僅次於接生小孩而且績效還是十分的好高於jefferson 的2.1 但是有人聽說jeff被嫌不好嗎？ (差不多是在講這樣啦就是說卡特明明績效很好卻一直被嫌棄) 2007-2008 - On Court: -2.2, Off Court: - 11.7, Net: +9.5 (1st on team) Once again, Carter is the statistically the most effective player on his team. Kidd is +5.6 and Jefferson is -0.2. But Vince Carter is the problem? 2007~2008 卡特又是第一了比接生小孩的5.6和Jefferson的-0.2強多了所以卡特是問題嗎？囧興 So to recap, over the past 6 years, Vince has had at least a +7.4 net adjusted +/-, leading his team during 4 seasons with a high of +15.5, when he was second in the league. So why wouldn’t players want to play with him? Clearly teams are much better when Vince is on the court. Could anyone even argue against that? The goal of each basketball game is to outscore your opponents and when Vince is on the court, he has given his team a MUCH better chance to win. The only downpoint is the 20 game stretch of horrible basketball to start the 04-05 season. 一句話嘿嘿卡特在過去六年平均有+7.4 有四季全隊第一最高還有15.5 事實上卡特在場上時球隊成績是比較好的啦當他在場上球隊贏球的機會就會比較大啊只有在暴龍那20場除外 XD 囧想睡覺了先來去睡啦還沒翻完的就靠其他沒睡的強者啊 ( ′-`)y-～ -- http://www.wretch.cc/album/airnark 聽說現在流行擺相簿～～ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.168.0.151

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