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Two Man Game: Andre Roberson is shooting guard Option A
Andre Roberson是得分後衛首選
by Daily Thunder on March 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm| By Josh Kopelman
Special to Daily Thunder
原文連結:http://tinyurl.com/l8lwrho
Since the dawn of time, or more accurately the start of the season Thunder
fans have been clamoring for a change in the starting lineup at the 2-guard.
打從時間開始流動,或更精確點,本季初,雷霆迷們總是嚷著要變動先發得分後衛人選。
This is because Andre Roberson is the starting shooting guard and the
shooting part is where he struggles when he plays basketball.
這是因為Andre Roberson雖然擔綱得分後衛,投籃卻是他最大的障礙。
However, the way Roberson plays offense (along with his ability to defend at
a high level) is part of the reason why he’s in the starting lineup.
然而,Roberson的進攻方式(跟他高檔的防守能力)是他為何站上先發的原因的一部份。
Wait, what?
等等,你說什麼?
Even before a trade deadline deal brought four new players to OKC, there were
calls for Dion Waiters to start in place of Andre Roberson. The trade gave
the Thunder two more possible options at shooting guard in Kyle Singler and
D.J. Augustin.
在帶來4位新球員的交易大限前,就有聲音指出建議Dion Waiters取代Andre Roberson成
為先發。交易後,OKC在得分後衛上多了Kyle Singler跟D.J. Augustin兩個可行選擇。
With Kevin Durant out, Singler is the de facto starting small forward and
when Durant returns he’ll move to the bench.
在Kevin Durant缺賽下,Singler是實質的先發小前鋒,而Durant一回歸後,他又會被調
往板凳。
However, Singler, along with Anthony Morrow, D.J. Augustin and Dion Waiters
can all play and start at shooting guard if they need to. Are any of these
guys better options to start than Andre Roberson?
然而,在要求下,Singler、Anthony Morrow、D.J. Augustin、Dion Waiters都能擔任得
分後衛且在這位置上先發。那,這些人中有誰是比Andre Roberson更好的選擇?
Starting Augustin would mean there is no true point guard to backup Russell
Westbrook so he’s not an option to start.
讓Augustin先發表示沒有一個替補Russell Westbrook的純控球後衛,所以他不會是個選
項。
Anthony Morrow has not played a single minute when the
Durant-Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams foursome has been on the floor so it’s hard to
judge exactly how he’d do starting with those guys.
Anthony Morrow不曾在Durant-Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams四人組上場時上過場,所以非常難
判斷他如果跟這些人先發會帶來怎樣的效果。
If Kanter continues as starting center over Adams, then there is even less a
need for offense and Morrow isn’t exactly known as a defensive ace. So the
seven-year vet is coming off the bench.
如果Kanter持續取代Adams扛先發中鋒,那麼先發得分需求將會更少,而且Morrow並非一
個以防守見長的球員。因此這位7年級老將將會從板凳出發。
Ditto with Singler struggling on defense, but still he makes an intriguing
candidate at shooting guard.
Singler在防守端也同樣非常掙扎,但他依然是個得分後衛上的不錯的人選。
Take a look at the third-year player from Duke’s shot chart. He can
definitely knock down the three:
看看這位來自Duke的3年級生的投射成績單。他絕對可以砍進三分球。
圖片連結:http://tinyurl.com/lfcycfa
But, he’s shooting 45.6 percent around the rim. Roberson is 61.2 percent!
Singler could slide over and start at the 2 when Durant returns because of
his shooting edge. But that option isn’t as appealing when you look at
rebounding.
但是,他(Singler)在籃框附近命中率為45.6%,Roberson是61.2%!!! 在Durant回歸後,
Singler可以因其射程轉職先發2號位,但如果你看了籃板數,讓Singler轉得分後衛這件
事可能不是很吸引人。
Per 100 possessions Roberson dominates the glass compared to the 3-point
specialist averaging 10.8 boards to Singler’s 6.7.
在100次球權中,Roberson平均10.8籃板的表現力壓擅長三分投射的Singler的6.7個籃板
。
See? He is a good rebounder. That led to two easy points for Russell
Westbrook all because Roberson crashed the boards with the assist of a lucky
bounce after the first miss.
看到沒? Roberson是一個很好的籃板手。Roberson在不進後抓下籃板,傳給Russell
Westbrook拿下簡單的兩分。
So it’s back to the bench for Singler once the Slim Reaper returns.
所以Durant一回來,Singler就要回到板凳去了。
And that brings us to the island of misfit Waiters.
最後我們來看看Dion Waiters。
Dion Waiters is usually the first guy off the bench so it’s common to hear,
“Dion should start over Andre.” The best part is that people saying this
are being serious.
Dion通常是板凳出發的第一人,所以我們常常聽到「Dion比Andre更有資格先發。」最棒
的是,大家說這句話時都非常認真。
Without looking into it, the theory makes sense. Waiters would help boost
scoring and his defense isn’t that much worse than Roberson’s.
不仔細看的話,這道理倒是說得通。Waiters可以幫助得分,而他的防守與Roberson相比
也不至於說太糟。
But, we’re going to look at how these two players play.
但是我們要看看這兩位球員的打法。
Waiters is far better at shooting than Andre Roberson. At least that’s the
common thought.
Waiters在投籃方面比Andre Roberson好太多了。至少大家都普遍這麼認為。
The former Cav is shooting just 37.8/27.8/64.2 with 311 points on 333 field
goal attempts since the early January trade brought him to OKC.
這位前騎士球員的投籃三圍只有37.8%-27.8%-64.2%,自從一月初來到雷霆後在333次出手
只得到311分。
Yes, Mr. Shot Selection has 22 more field goals attempted than points scored.
是的,他的投籃選擇好到出手次數比得分多了22次。
And his defensive Real Plus-Minus this season is minus-0.92, which isn’t
slightly worse than Roberson’s 3.77, it’s light years behind.
而且他的防守正負值是 -0.92,這非但不只比Roberson的3.77差一點點,應該可以說是差
了好幾光年吧。
That 3.77 DRPM Roberson has posted this season is second among shooting
guards and 12th overall in the NBA this season.
Roberson的DRPM=3.77是本季得分後衛中第二名,全聯盟第12名的表現。
And Yes, Roberson got burned on defense late in the victory over Toronto, Mr.
I didn’t pay attention to Roberson shutting down the DeMar DeRozan in the
third quarter.
對,Roberson在對多倫多暴龍那場勝利的防守端最後是被打爆,可是他在第三節把DeMar
DeRozan守死了。
Ok, but Waiters is better offensively, right?
好吧,但Waiters在進攻端更具威脅性,對吧?
Andre Roberson this season is 46.8/25/45.7 and has 194 points on 170 shots.
That’s bad shooting from 3-point land and the free throw line, no doubt.
Andre Roberson,本季是46.8%-25.0%-45.7%,170次出手得到194分。廢話,這三分命中
率跟罰球命中率爛得可以。
But, Roberson is shooting 46.8 percent from the field???
等等,Roberson有46.8%的投籃命中率?
That’s the sixth best field goal percentage on the team! And the defensive
specialist leads all Thunder guards in field goal percentage? How?
這是全隊第6高的命中率!而且這位防守專家居然在雷霆的後衛群中領跑命中率?怎麼回
事?
Oh. No one is guarding him. That makes shooting slightly easier.
喔,沒有人在防守他。這讓他投籃變得簡單一些些。
And that’s the thing. Roberson is very good at not being guarded since “
make sure Andre doesn’t shoot” isn’t in any team’s game plan. In both of
those plays, the guy who can’t shoot makes opponents pay for ignoring him.
然後這就來了。Roberson非常擅長不被防守,因為「別讓Andre投籃」從來不是哪一隊的
戰術方針。在這兩個play中,這位不善投籃的傢伙讓對手為無視他賠上了代價。
And that’s probably why he’s hitting 61.2 percent of his shots near the
basket. For reference, that’s better than Russell Westbrook, James Harden
and Kyrie Irving. Of course Roberson isn’t a better shooter than those
three, his Shooting percentage is only higher because defenses guard those
other guys when they go to the basket.
這大概也是為何他在籃框附近命中率達61.2%。跟Russell Westbrook、James Harden、
Kyrie Irving相比,當然好的多。當然Roberson跟這三人相比絕不是更好的得分手,他命
中率高是因為防守者總是在那三人進攻時緊盯不放。
What else does Roberson bring offensively?
Roberson在進攻端還帶來什麼?
圖片連結:http://tinyurl.com/lo5uwt9
Look at the shot chart. Almost no midrange jumpers, which are the least
efficient shots in the basketball.
看看投籃分布。幾乎中距離跳投,籃球中最低效率的出手方式。
Roberson only attempts 3.1 field goals per game. When you ‘re bad at
shooting, not firing up a shot unless you’re open is as good as it gets for
your team.
Roberson一場比賽平均出手3.1次。當你很不會投籃時,不要一直出手,除非你
He doesn’t take inefficient jumpers that efficient shooters such as Kevin
Durant, Serge Ibaka and Russell Westbrook could be taking.
他不做高效如Kevin Durant、Serge Ibaka、Russell Westbrook會出手的低效投籃。
Waiters isn’t afraid to shoot with a defender in his face. Maybe he should
be.
Waiters面對防守者時根本不恐懼。或許他應該要。
Notice who else is on the floor for the Thunder when Waiters decides to step
back and shoot.
看看Waiters決定來個後撤步跳投時,誰在場上。
Thirty percent of the shots that Dion takes are two pointers from further
than 16 feet out. He makes 38.4 percent of those. That’s about 7.7 points
for every 10 shot attempts.
Dion Waiter的出手有30%是在16呎外的兩分投射。他在這範圍的命中率是38.4%,大約是
每10次出手得7.7分。
Roberson has only taken ONE shot from the same distance. ONE! The other 172
shots he has taken this season have been either within ten feet of the basket
or behind the three-point line.
Roberson在同樣距離只投了一球。對,一球。其他72次出手不是在離籃框10呎之內,就是
三分線外。
And that brings us to the answer of why Waiters doesn’t start over Roberson.
這告訴我們,為何Dion Waiters不能取代Roberson成為先發。
The healthy Thunder lineup of Adams-KD-Westbrook-Ibaka-Roberson is outscoring
opponents by 15 points per 100 possessions.
健康的雷霆先發陣容 Adams-KD-Westbrook-Ibaka-Roberson平均每100次球權,比對手多
得15分。
Sub in Waiters for Roberson and that lineup does a cliff dive to 9.9 points
behind opponents per 100 possessions.
如果Roberson用Waiters替代的話,平均每100次球權的得分差會驟減到落後9.9分。
That’s going from a 15-point lead to trailing by nearly 10 points.
這是從領先15分到落後近10分。
Kanter is even more of an offensive threat than Adams, so with him in the
starting lineup it’s even more reason to start the more efficient and
passive shooter in Roberson.
Kanter在進攻端比Adams更具威脅性,所以把Kanter擺在先發陣容中時,讓高效且被動的
後衛Roberson先發看起來更合理。
Waiters is fine for a bench player, but he doesn’t fit with the starting
lineup on offense since he takes so many inefficient shots.
Waiters可以是板凳球員,但他不適合在先發進攻組,因為他有太多低效率的出手。
Roberson plays better with the rest of Oklahoma City’s healthy starters at
the 2-guard and he’s a better perimeter defender than anyone else OKC has,
which is why the Thunder continue to start Roberson despite some fans
groaning at the idea.
Roberson在其他先發都健康時打得更好,而且他是目前雷霆最好的外圍防守者,所以雷霆
不管部分球迷怎麼抱怨都應該要讓Roberson繼續先發。
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