[討論] 費德勒為什麼討人喜歡啊?

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最近有一系列Djokovic為何討人厭的文章, 一時有點好奇大家對其他選手的觀感如何, 特別的是,似乎很多人都覺得Federer很有風度,但是我看球也看了十多年了, 這似乎和我的印象不太符合耶,大家可以討論看看, 為什麼Federer很受眾人愛戴嗎? 以下是我的淺見啦^^" 1.2005 澳網嘲諷Agassi,稱就算自己不在最佳狀態也可以擊敗對手 http://bit.ly/1Od9Whu I know my game is good enough and, even when I'm not playing perfect, I know I can beat him. He's not as good as he was when he was at the top of the rankings, otherwise he would still be there. I think he has to raise his game, not me Bleacher Report的資深記者Rob York對這段就很感冒,認為是大頭病的起源 2.2006年辛辛那提大師賽,Federer敗給Murray,在比賽途中憤而把球打進觀眾席 我一時找不到影片與新聞,不過英網版還有板友留下當年的回憶, 夠老的球迷應該也還記得 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/GBR_Tennis/M.1155858546.A.6EE.html 3.2007年溫布頓決賽,因為鷹眼判決不如己意,要求裁判關閉鷹眼系統, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8_fBZDGnM
在之後Nadal一個明顯出界球,Federer對Nadal喊Challege and call it in 延伸閱讀:Federer要求關閉鷹眼,但批評Nadal希望某位主審暫時不要執法他的比賽 http://tinyurl.com/pnnqwp4 4.2008年嗆Djoko父母安靜,當時球的來回已經結束,且Djoko父母沒有發出特殊喊聲 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpd23dTcT6c
延伸閱讀:2014年Federer妻子Mirka嗆Wawrinka Crybaby, Wawrinka同時表示整場球Mirka都在旁邊heckling http://bit.ly/1I2X4cL 事後兩人據稱在更衣室談了十分鐘,未曾有過公開道歉 5.2009年美網對陣Del Potro,嗆主審Garner http://bit.ly/1OdolKo Federer was fined £1,000 for swearing at Garner, the umpire during his shock US Open final defeat to Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009. Federer was complaining that Del Potro was taking too long to decide whether or not to make challenges, with the Swiss telling Garner: "Don't tell me when to be quiet, okay? When I want to talk, I'll talk." 偉大的選手可以When I want to talk, I'll talk ^^ 6.2011年,Federer酸Murray在亞洲的好成績都是因為對手不夠強 http://en.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/121913.html "I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure. "Novak [Djokovic] wasn't there, I wasn't there and [in Shanghai] Rafa lost early." 但是Murray剛連拿曼谷、東京和上海的冠軍,在Tokyo逆轉擊敗Nadal,在上海擊敗Ferrer 同時Federer只拿下Paris和Basel,而對到的最高種子僅是世界第八的Tsonga 7.2011年,當Murray在倫敦年終賽中因為傷痛掙扎時,Federer稱冠軍即便受傷也能贏球 , 並順便吹捧自己一番 http://bit.ly/1OdhctI ROGER FEDERER has told Andy Murray that champions play and win even when they are injured or ill. “My body, even if it’s injured, can still play really well, whereas maybe other players, if they are injured, it doesn’t work any more. 延伸閱讀:2010年溫網輸給Berdych時,Federer說都是因為受傷害的 http://bit.ly/1I33wAw "That never quite really went away. It came back a little bit after the first-round match and then went away again and just kept creeping back sometimes during the matches. When you're hurting, it's a combination of many things. You just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate." 搞得Berdych不太爽,覺得只是在找藉口 http://bit.ly/1I34r46 8.2011美網,敗給Djokovic後稱對手只是因為運氣好 http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/sep/11/us-open-2011-federer-djokovic 對Djoko挽救賽點的一球正拍,名宿McEnroe稱讚是史上最好的一球之一, Federer則稱那只是運氣好 There followed a string of excuses and justifications which not only were barely sustainable given the evidence but seriously disrespected the winner. Asked about the quite remarkable forehand winner Djokovic hit to save match point, Federer reckoned the Serb did not look at that point like someone "who believes much anymore in winning. To lose against someone like that, it's very disappointing, because you feel like he was mentally out of it already. Just gets the lucky shot at the end, and off you go." 9.2012年台維斯杯,Federer指責Wawrinka打不好害瑞士被淘汰 http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-02-12/8856.php “I played well enough in doubles, but Stanislas not so much,” Federer said via AP translation. He added that Stan, who was seated next to him in the interview, “didn’t have his best match in singles. It’s a shame, because of that defeat we weren ’t able to put the U.S under pressure.” Wawrinka打了五盤輸給Fish,但Federer只打四盤就輸給了當時排名更低的Isner 而雙打則是Federer和Wawrinka共同搭檔,輸給美國的Fish+Bryant組合 據稱Federer在記者會指責Wawrinka時,旁邊的Wawrinka一臉不敢置信地看著Federer 10.2012年法網,對陣Del Potro輸了一顆球,怒譙觀眾Shut up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_ISSzxyZk
11.2014年澳網,Federer要求主辦單位不要把一顆違法擊球(彈跳兩次)秀在大螢幕上 http://bit.ly/1OdoGge Murray said Federer attempted to cover up a controversy at the 2014 Australian Open when the Swiss asked that replays of an illegal shot not be shown on the big screen. “He asked for them to stop showing it on the video because I think he knew it bounced twice as well," Murray said. “Roger asked them not to show it because it looks controversial and doesn’t look great. But it’s fine for them to show videos of me every time I get annoyed on the court or whatever – it’s up there the whole bloody match." 12.2015年澳網,吼拍攝他治療的攝影師 http://bit.ly/1I39AZW Federer lost his unruffled demeanour when he was involved in an on-court spat with a television camerama at the 2015 Australian Open. After calling the trainer to Rod Laver Arena for what initially appeared to be a blister on the little finger of his right hand, Federer lashed out at a cameraman filming him close by.He angrily ushered away the cameraman, saying "Do you need to be so close?", before recovering his composure to win. 本篇只談Federer自己的言行啦,很多其他的批評我先省略, 像是Nadal在2012批評Federer不沾鍋,不願意參與讓澳網獎金更公平的分配等等, 前段選手像Nadal願意犧牲自己的獎金來照顧後段選手是很偉大的事情, 但是Federer表現得也是人之常情啦,畢竟是自己比較有可能拿到大份的,幹嘛分人 對了,好像有人說Federer都沒摔拍,隨意來個影片好了 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwQX4hneL8
其實我個人覺得這次摔得很漂亮,和Safin一樣不拖泥帶水,直接摔爛 堪稱摔拍典範 另外好像有個三國人物覺得我說外國討論很多是唬爛,要我提出證據 http://ble.ac/1I38eya http://bit.ly/1OdlNMz http://bit.ly/1I38kWB 族繁不及備載,提供幾個關鍵字,如hypocrite, arrogant, immodest, selfish等 可搭配組合估狗,效果絕佳 不知道大家覺得如何呢? ^^ -- 如果自由意味著什麼,那就是擁有說眾人不想聽的話的權利。 --George Orwell-- -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 119.77.223.107 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Tennis/M.1436972085.A.885.html

07/15 22:59, , 1F
覺得你來引戰^^
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07/15 22:59, , 2F
辛苦你了
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07/15 23:02, , 3F
2007 溫網決賽 還喊了一聲 SHIT
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07/15 23:02, , 4F
推認真整理
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07/15 23:03, , 5F
乃仁播報時嚇到,說球王剛剛竟然爆了粗口之類的
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07/15 23:03, , 6F
不過費神球迷多是很正常的事
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07/15 23:04, , 7F
第一 他非常強 第二 他打球很帥
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07/15 23:04, , 8F
呵呵
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07/15 23:05, , 9F
引戰 不過我喜歡
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07/15 23:07, , 10F
都是什麼樣的人會成為費迷呢
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07/15 23:08, , 11F
就看你選擇看球員的哪一面啊
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07/15 23:09, , 12F
球技好啊!這是唯一球迷要在乎的
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07/15 23:09, , 13F
要不要也順便整理納豆跟茉莉的呢? 又再引戰 無聊
07/15 23:09, 13F
這兩位我還真的沒啥印象耶,您方便的話可以整理嗎? 畢竟正如某位古人所言,我沒辦法cover到所有事嘛 ※ 編輯: betadu (119.77.223.107), 07/15/2015 23:13:33

07/15 23:12, , 14F
我費迷 我不知道為什麼 我就是喜歡
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07/15 23:13, , 15F
頭髮以外都不討厭
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07/15 23:13, , 16F
我知道這很盲目 但偶像不就是這種東西?
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07/15 23:14, , 17F
費天王就是優雅代表 酸酸退散
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07/15 23:14, , 18F
結論:雙重標準
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07/15 23:14, , 19F
所以還是Nadal最乖^___^
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※ 編輯: betadu (119.77.223.107), 07/15/2015 23:15:30

07/15 23:15, , 20F
有印象他瞧不起阿格西,從那時候就對他很反感
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07/15 23:16, , 21F
只是跟囧科比起來我更不喜歡囧科就是
07/15 23:16, 21F
其實我也是自此對他有些反感,畢竟當年一個23歲的年輕球王, 居然對34歲的老球王,八屆大滿貫冠軍說他要提升才能追得上我, 實在是有些太過猖狂了。如果是現在33歲的他被23歲的年輕小將這樣嗆, 不知做何感想

07/15 23:16, , 22F
職業運動的球員本來就是被觀眾嘴來嘴去的 我如果沒在看網球
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07/15 23:16, , 23F
的話還以為有些網迷的心怎麼特別脆弱
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07/15 23:17, , 24F
他沒有瞧不起阿格西的球技 至少現在沒有 最近有一篇訪
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07/15 23:17, , 25F
談他還說他作夢都想要有阿格西的反拍
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07/15 23:18, , 26F
其實有時候是媒體搧風點火,但是也可能他太常贏,就很怕輸
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07/15 23:18, , 27F
因看他打球腦中會浮現genius這個字,看其他人不會
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07/15 23:18, , 28F
要這樣說Nadal也曾說過山大王的S&V打法根本不算是打網球啊
07/15 23:18, 28F
※ 編輯: betadu (119.77.223.107), 07/15/2015 23:21:37

07/15 23:19, , 29F
人無完人呀
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07/15 23:20, , 30F
對剛開始看球的來說FED打球變化多看起來必較不會無聊
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07/15 23:20, , 31F
費爸可是公認的網壇君子劍 風度翩翩 怎可能不尊重前輩
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07/15 23:20, , 32F
改天有沒有資深豆迷來整理一下豆的啊
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07/15 23:22, , 33F
打球帥啊 不拖泥帶水
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07/15 23:22, , 34F
看對抽除非是11年囧口對納豆那個樣子 不然看到度估或先轉
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07/15 23:23, , 35F
早期不太看費打球也是因為太虐菜了
07/15 23:23, 35F
還有 359 則推文
還有 5 段內文
07/17 14:37, , 395F
終於有人提出來了,大推
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07/17 14:37, , 396F
沒人說風度差不能愛,但費迷老愛自己營造偶像有多優雅
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07/17 14:38, , 397F
的幻想,這才是最大問題
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07/17 14:59, , 398F
看不懂樓上這到底是有甚麼問題,有些人喜歡幻想偶像有多優
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07/17 14:59, , 399F
雅不是他的自由嗎? 管太寬? 不要扯到其他球員就好啦?
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07/17 16:05, , 400F
別太過於腦補.對大多數的費迷來說.費爸的優雅是來自於他
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07/17 16:07, , 401F
打球的動作與即興的創意.
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07/17 17:32, , 402F
至於某些費迷 習慣就好
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07/17 18:12, , 403F
隔岸觀火看完第二遍了,很妙的一篇文章,給推
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07/17 18:47, , 404F
那群說這裡是費二版的人是怎
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07/17 18:47, , 405F
麼回事?聰明反倒聰明誤嗎?
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07/17 20:08, , 406F
比賽都會看也想過這問題 不過這篇不會給費爸的球迷看XD
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07/17 20:50, , 407F
彌彌開始檢討其他家球迷 XD
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07/17 20:54, , 408F
不用檢討阿,你就是那種人
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07/17 21:04, , 409F
先幫推 等等迷迷又要出來雙重標準了
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07/17 21:05, , 410F
恩你慢慢幻想有人雙重標準吧
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07/17 21:08, , 411F
到底是要幻想甚麼?? 雙重標準那麼明顯你也可以在那吵
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07/17 21:09, , 412F
你就說說看哪個人哪個ID雙重標準。
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07/17 21:18, , 413F
有嗎
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07/17 21:21, , 414F
德勒
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07/17 21:44, , 415F
自己可以檢討費迷 受不了別人檢討你喔
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07/17 23:50, , 416F
啊他就愛雙重標準咩XD
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07/18 01:07, , 417F
07年溫網決賽他喊 Challenge! Call it in!這短是嗆主
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07/18 05:11, , 418F
我討厭Federer
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07/18 10:53, , 419F
辛苦惹 wwwwwww
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07/18 13:38, , 420F
怒推!
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07/18 16:03, , 421F
朝聖推
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07/18 17:00, , 422F
如果他真如你說的那麼沒品 他不會得了十次的道德獎項
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07/18 17:00, , 423F
(史上最多次,這個獎還是球員票選 不是球迷投的)
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07/19 07:41, , 424F
能拿10次真的很扯XD 原來那是與球員票選der,長見識
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07/19 09:52, , 426F
球賽後本來就比較容易激動,big3其他人也不會少
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07/20 02:37, , 427F
推 真是太感謝你了
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07/21 23:21, , 428F
史上最強
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07/22 00:39, , 429F
辛苦囉
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07/22 03:48, , 430F
推整理,根本優文!
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07/22 13:44, , 431F
跑出幾隻蟲子
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07/22 23:57, , 432F
這篇引戰水準超高的啦www 不過我還是愛費神lol
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