[新聞] 費德勒、瓦倫卡同聲反對納達爾的主審爭議

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Federer, Wawrinka show no sympathy for Nadal in umpire row 費德勒、瓦倫卡對納達爾的主審迴避爭議事件同聲反對 新聞原文：http://tinyurl.com/pnnqwp4 Roger Federer on Wednesday admitted that allowing leading players to pick and choose who umpires their matches could set a difficult precedent for tour organisers. 費德勒週三表示若為頂尖選手開啟自選主審的先例恐為不智之舉 After easing past Spain's Marcel Granollers in the second round of the French Open at Roland Garros, Federer was drawn into a debate that followed Rafael Nadal's admission that he had requested the removal of a respected umpire from officiating his matches. 針對先前納達爾主張特定主審應迴避其往後比賽的執法，費德勒於輕鬆通過法網第二輪考 驗後，遂加入此爭議討論。 "I think everybody should be treated the same way," said the Swiss star. 費德勒表示：「我認為每位選手都應當受到相同對待。」 "It goes back to the same thing that everybody is requesting things when they want to play. 「事情的本質便是如此，任何人提出要求只因為他們在球場上需要。」 "The players understand that not every request can be granted. So at the end of the day, you can make a request, but it doesn't mean you're going to get it. 「但所有選手都瞭解，並非所有要求均會獲准。你們可以提出要求，但不代表會得到。」 "I think at the end of the day the tournament, tournament director, ATP, governing bodies, ITF, whoever, they need to take the decision, I guess, and the players need to be okay with it or then you can have a dialogue, which can be relaxed or not so relaxed." 「我想賽會結束之後，ＡＴＰ官方人員會對此做出決定。球員對此必須接受或嘗試溝通表 示意見。」 Nadal admitted on Tuesday that he had demanded that respected Brazilian umpire Carlos Bernandes be banned from officiating at his matches. 納達爾週二承認他本人要求：禁止巴西主審卡洛斯．貝南德斯之後執法任何他的比賽。 The 28-year-old Spaniard fell out with Bernardes after the official gave him a code violation for exceeding the 25 seconds between points at a tournament earlier this year. 納達爾因為被今年稍早的比賽中遭貝南德斯判發球逾時違規而引發二人爭執失和。 Nadal insisted his treatment by Bernardes during a semi-final defeat to Fabio Fognini in Rio de Janeiro was unfair as he had put his shorts on back to front and wanted to change them. 對於要求換褲子（褲子穿反）事件，納達爾亦堅稱他遭受貝南德斯不公平的對待。 Federer added: "It's very personal...you're better off with some people and some not, you know. So that's why I try to really not focus on who is the umpire; try to focus on my game, so those kind of things don't creep in my head. But it's hard." 費德勒又說：「這是非常涉及個人的，跟誰好或跟誰不好，你知道的，所以我盡可能不去 理會主審是誰，我只想關注我的比賽，不去思考那類事情。但不容易做到就是。」 Federer's fellow Swiss star Stan Wawrinka admitted that he has aired grievances about umpires in the past but indicated that on this occasion Nadal's request was ill-conceived and hinted that the top players receive favourable treatment from officials. 瓦倫卡表示他也曾對主審不滿，但認為納達爾提出的要求有欠考慮周詳，等同暗示頂尖球 員得以受到較優的待遇。 "I have already made such requests over a short period of time for direct problems and issues I had with the umpire. 「過去一段時間，對於我和主審發生過的問題，我曾直接做出一些提議。」 "So when a player makes such a request, it should be granted only if the umpire has made mistakes or faults," said Wawrinka, the eighth seed in Paris who won through to the third round by beating Dusan Lajovic of Serbia in four sets. 瓦倫卡說：「如果只因為主審在場上單純犯錯，嗣後球員就可以要求該主審應迴避執法他 往後的所有比賽。」 "If it's just because you don't like the person, this request should not be accepted. 瓦倫卡說：「如果只因為你不喜歡這個人，這要求不該被准許。」 "Umpires don't all keep the same watch for all players because they know that if they have trouble with one of the top players and they can't be on their match, well, tough for them, because they like being there for the finals. 瓦倫卡說：「如此一來，主審對所有球員便無法一視同仁而為裁判。一旦和頂尖球員發生 過爭執，往後就必須迴避執法，這對主審太嚴苛了，他們也渴望在大賽決賽中擔任執法工 作。」 "And if they have problems with top players it becomes difficult with them. 瓦倫卡說：「萬一與頂尖球員發生爭端，將對主審們大大的不利。」 "Umpires are not as strict on the centre court when they are with the top players as compared to when they are on court number 17." 瓦倫卡說：「相較於外圍球場，往後主審們在主球場的執法便不再嚴格，避免激怒頂尖選 手。」 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 123.240.39.215 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Tennis/M.1432804804.A.0A6.html
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05/28 17:48, , 1F
選手要求某特定主審迴避 ....大頭症嗎
05/28 17:48, 1F
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05/28 18:15, , 2F
oops, a war begins.
05/28 18:15, 2F
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05/28 18:16, , 3F
上一篇不是才說，納豆是表示希望『最近』不要由該主
05/28 18:16, 3F
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05/28 18:16, , 4F
審執法嗎？這篇怎麼會說『之後都不要』…
05/28 18:16, 4F
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05/28 18:17, , 5F
怎麼感覺看起來小卡的說法有點在引戰
05/28 18:17, 5F
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05/28 18:17, , 6F
說實在的，昨天看到可以這樣要求覺得不可置信...
05/28 18:17, 6F
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05/28 18:17, , 7F
本來就不行，又不是做幾次的問題
05/28 18:17, 7F
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05/28 18:18, , 8F
有點好奇換內褲的情形,是主審要納豆當場換讓他難堪?
05/28 18:18, 8F
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05/28 18:18, , 9F
以後跟哪個主審有過節誰都可以這樣要求嗎?還是只有豆豆
05/28 18:18, 9F
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05/28 18:18, , 10F
可以?
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05/28 18:18, , 11F
問題不是最不最近吧，而是本來就不能挑阿 小威跟鷹
05/28 18:18, 11F
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05/28 18:18, , 12F
納豆不能進去室內換嗎?
05/28 18:18, 12F
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05/28 18:18, , 13F
之母後來還是有合作比賽
05/28 18:18, 13F
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05/28 18:19, , 14F
本來就不行這樣吧 不只他們兩個反對
05/28 18:19, 14F
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05/28 18:19, , 15F
我也第一個想到小威，小威一定會要某主審跟線審迴避XD
05/28 18:19, 15F
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05/28 18:21, , 16F
小威11美網跟Eva吵架還不是認命XD
05/28 18:21, 16F
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05/28 18:22, , 17F
其實迴避這個議題我覺得不是不能研議耶…審判可以聲
05/28 18:22, 17F
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05/28 18:22, , 18F
請法官迴避(ex親屬、利害關係等)，像網球這樣同場人
05/28 18:22, 18F
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05/28 18:22, , 19F
數少的運動比賽可否比照辦理不知道是否有過討論？
05/28 18:22, 19F
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05/28 18:22, , 20F
如果開此先例的話後面引發的爭議跟麻煩會更多吧
05/28 18:22, 20F
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05/28 18:23, , 21F
只不過不給換褲子就要求以後不能執法自己的比賽，很明顯
05/28 18:23, 21F
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05/28 18:23, , 22F
法庭跟運動比賽畢竟是完全兩碼事啊~
05/28 18:23, 22F
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05/28 18:24, , 23F
不符合比例原則阿...
05/28 18:24, 23F
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05/28 18:26, , 24F
我也覺得有問題可申訴 不過要迴避真的比較不妥當
05/28 18:26, 24F
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05/28 18:26, , 25F
好像真的因為這樣沒讓這位巴西級判今天這場
05/28 18:26, 25F
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05/28 18:26, , 26F
每盤之間去換就好，比賽進行中還要進更衣室換會影響比賽
05/28 18:26, 26F
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05/28 18:27, , 27F
節奏還有對對手來說不公平
05/28 18:27, 27F
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05/28 18:28, , 28F
之前Ana還因為中間跑去拉肚子，被罰一局。只是褲子穿反
05/28 18:28, 28F
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05/28 18:28, , 29F
Federer會說話是因為他還沒卸任球員委員長吧
05/28 18:28, 29F
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05/28 18:28, , 30F
沒必要要求進更衣室換褲子吧...穿反也沒什麼大不了
05/28 18:28, 30F
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05/28 18:29, , 31F
其實有在關注的話 幾乎每個球員都被問到了
05/28 18:29, 31F
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05/28 18:30, , 32F
不給換就說主審對自己不公平要求迴避比賽，真的小題大作
05/28 18:30, 32F
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05/28 18:31, , 33F
如果他硬要進去換豆豆願意被罰局而沒有任何怨言嗎...
05/28 18:31, 33F
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05/28 18:32, , 34F
我也覺得褲子穿反沒什麼大不了,所以納豆可能反應過大了.
05/28 18:32, 34F
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05/28 18:32, , 35F
Rafa根本沒要求要在更衣室換 他當下問主審時就已經準
05/28 18:32, 35F
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05/28 18:32, , 36F
我是小威我承認蠻怕再碰鷹眼之母XDD
05/28 18:32, 36F
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05/28 18:32, , 37F
備在場上換了
05/28 18:32, 37F
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05/28 18:33, , 38F
但是主審要給他超時警告
05/28 18:33, 38F
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05/28 18:34, , 39F
那豆豆不管主審同不同意都換了，這樣對主審來說更莫名
05/28 18:34, 39F
還有 445 則推文
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05/29 11:06, , 485F
卻要求每一個遇到此狀況的跟你一樣吃悶虧 這....
05/29 11:06, 485F
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05/29 11:07, , 486F
說實在我看不出那場比賽吃了啥悶虧
05/29 11:07, 486F
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05/29 11:08, , 487F
你不是納豆 你看不出來很正常
05/29 11:08, 487F
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05/29 11:09, , 488F
那你解釋一下"比賽內容"吃了什麼虧?
05/29 11:09, 488F
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05/29 11:10, , 489F
算了，說再多也只會說 我沒同理心 不容許他人犯錯
05/29 11:10, 489F
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05/29 11:11, , 490F
你是指Bernards主審在裁判專業以外的 不能被要求嘛
05/29 11:11, 490F
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05/29 11:11, , 491F
可以阿，但去申訴職場上別人會問你為何不一開始要求
05/29 11:11, 491F
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05/29 11:11, , 492F
你要不要重看Wawrinka怎說的啊
05/29 11:11, 492F
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05/29 11:12, , 493F
要求什麼啊，納豆他穿反褲子是失誤不是故意啊 難道他故意
05/29 11:12, 493F
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05/29 11:13, , 494F
不是那個要求好嗎.......
05/29 11:13, 494F
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05/29 11:13, , 495F
穿反去設計一個釣魚的機會害Bernards嗎
05/29 11:13, 495F
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05/29 11:13, , 496F
沒人在砲換褲子的要求...........
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05/29 11:13, , 497F
(我回答a大的 結果d大以為是回他的，這混戰有意義嗎)
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05/29 11:14, , 498F
就穿好衣服？什麼都怪別人，自我不要求。那我問你
05/29 11:14, 498F
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05/29 11:14, , 499F
回d大的，a大以為是對你說的 看得都要笑了
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05/29 11:15, , 500F
實際上申訴完公司會因為你的申訴把主管調離合理嗎？
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05/29 11:16, , 501F
to d大: 納豆他穿反褲子那份尷尬他自己就要概括承受 但主審
05/29 11:16, 501F
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算了反正決定權在法網,這討論也是對事不對人
05/29 11:16, 502F
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05/29 11:16, , 503F
不用火上加油，讓球員更有受屈辱的感覺
05/29 11:16, 503F
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05/29 11:17, , 504F
畢竟在球場上最受敬重的應該要解圍 而不是跳入火線一起訕笑
05/29 11:17, 504F
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05/29 11:17, , 505F
以上是回給d大
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05/29 11:21, , 506F
豆豆是申請不是申訴也不是干涉...
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05/29 11:28, , 507F
如果你的比賽對手,對大會進行了影響裁判選擇的申請
05/29 11:28, 507F
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05/29 11:28, , 508F
就是會有這種爭議囉
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05/29 11:30, , 509F
但如果對手只是申訴,裁判行為不檢,應該就沒爭議
05/29 11:30, 509F
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05/29 12:10, , 510F
主審是"聽命指派的"，這只是一件工作，跟上班族沒兩樣
05/29 12:10, 510F
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05/29 12:11, , 511F
為啥老是有人以為他們是遵循某更高的法則，該輪誰就輪誰?
05/29 12:11, 511F
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05/29 12:13, , 512F
是這些主審一出生就排好班表了嗎?早命中注定要審哪幾場了?
05/29 12:13, 512F
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05/29 12:15, , 513F
今天你有衝突，不管是利、還是害，單位主管排班時就會避開
05/29 12:15, 513F
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05/29 12:16, , 514F
沒出過社會，起碼也打過工吧，班表是人排的不是命中注定的
05/29 12:16, 514F
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05/29 12:51, , 515F
指派由公正的大會決定,應拒絕選手干預避免爭議
05/29 12:51, 515F
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05/29 12:54, , 516F
班表又不是透明的,拒絕要怎麼拒絕?馬上排他審豆以示清高嗎
05/29 12:54, 516F
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05/29 13:01, , 517F
全世界ATP主審這麼多，幾場比賽遇不到某位主審=不公正??
05/29 13:01, 517F
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05/29 13:04, , 518F
你們不是認為主審都是公正的嗎?這麼驚訝是其他主審不公正?
05/29 13:04, 518F
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05/29 13:05, , 519F
今天豆的比賽，A可以審，其他BCDEFGHIJK一堆人也可以審
05/29 13:05, 519F
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05/29 13:06, , 520F
然後同一天還有一堆其他比賽，你會特地排A去審豆場嗎??
05/29 13:06, 520F
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05/29 13:07, , 521F
是自找麻煩還是擺明要炒新聞??
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05/29 15:02, , 522F
同下一篇，他們只是提不同的意見，不是反對nadal，別被標是誤
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05/29 15:03, , 523F
導，就同一件事不同看法。
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05/31 01:57, , 524F
大頭症少在那邊該
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