[新聞] 三星良率低到逼迫高通換供應商

看板Tech_Job作者 (Kyle Korver)時間2年前 (2022/02/22 23:24), 2年前編輯推噓53(56339)
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https://tinyurl.com/mr2a9znb Samsung set out on an ambitious plan to bolster its chip business by producing semiconductors for other companies. However, one of its largest clients – Qu alcomm – is now reportedly seeking the services of TSMC due to Samsung Foundr y’s low yield. A report by The Elec (via SamMobile) states that Qualcomm is even asking TSMC to make a portion of its 4nm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 chipset. This is despite Samsu ng Foundry being listed as the sole manufacturer of the chip when it was first announced. The decision barely comes as a surprise given that Samsung Foundry ’s yield for the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was only 35%. 高通決定把一部分包莖1訂單分出來,即使一開始號稱三星是獨家供應商。 考慮到晶片良率不到35%,這個決定也沒這麼意外 What this also means is that Qualcomm will partner with TSMC for its upcoming 3nm SoCs. The report adds that the Exynos 2200 has an even lower yield than th e Qualcomm chip. So Samsung clearly has a lot of thinking to do. 其實三星自家的Exynos 2200良率更低 According to a source quoted by The Elec, Qualcomm executives and technical pe rsonnel were physically present at Samsung Foundry’s units to oversee the pro duction of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. This explains why Qualcomm’s chip witnesse d a better yield than Samsung’s own Exynos 2200. But Qualcomm’s decision to move to TSMC indicates that the yield troubles couldn’t be fully resolved. 為了搶救良率,高通其實有派長官和技術人員現場到三星的fab去盯場,這也解釋了為什 麼高通的晶片良率比三星自家的高。決定換供應商應該是發現良率問題無法解決 Last year, tech giant NVIDIA shifted orders of its new 7nm GPU to TSMC due to Samsung’s yield issues. Moreover, the global chip shortage has brought enormo us pressure on suppliers to meet demand. The low yield further adds to the com pany’s woes. As for corporations like Qualcomm or NVIDIA, supply is everythin g. So they’re left with no option but to make alternate arrangements. 去年,輝達把7nm的訂單全部都轉向 https://tinyurl.com/3483umsv Nvidia is set to spend at least $10B to secure its share of limited 5nm chip s upply 為了鞏固晶片供應,輝達準備預付100億美元 ----- Sent from MeowPtt on my iPad -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.43.65.192 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Tech_Job/M.1645543440.A.584.html

02/22 23:33, 2年前 , 1F

02/22 23:33, 2年前 , 2F
我看了什麼.jpg
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※ 編輯: kyle5241 (114.43.65.192 臺灣), 02/22/2022 23:36:23

02/22 23:39, 2年前 , 3F
包莖去割掉啊
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02/22 23:39, 2年前 , 4F
沒事 有記憶體事業在養
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02/22 23:40, 2年前 , 5F
不過良率不到35%還量產是啥概念
02/22 23:40, 5F

02/22 23:42, 2年前 , 6F
包莖1有這樣的綽號啊
02/22 23:42, 6F

02/22 23:43, 2年前 , 7F
8 Gen 1 包___1
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02/22 23:43, 2年前 , 8F
翻譯是不是在臭
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02/22 23:44, 2年前 , 9F
ai翻譯嗎?
02/22 23:44, 9F

02/22 23:44, 2年前 , 10F

02/22 23:44, 2年前 , 11F
包莖
02/22 23:44, 11F

02/22 23:46, 2年前 , 12F
mobilecomm都這樣稱8 gen 1
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02/22 23:47, 2年前 , 13F
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02/22 23:47, 13F

02/22 23:47, 2年前 , 14F
良率35%這應該是機密 是怎麼傳出了的呢?
02/22 23:47, 14F

02/22 23:51, 2年前 , 15F
內鬥放消息洗牌剛好吧
02/22 23:51, 15F

02/22 23:52, 2年前 , 16F
能接受良率35%的產線應該爽到炸
02/22 23:52, 16F

02/22 23:54, 2年前 , 17F
良率35%!簡稱MIKO%,MIKO也直呼內行
02/22 23:54, 17F

02/22 23:57, 2年前 , 18F
把包莖分出來 包在其他人身上嗎
02/22 23:57, 18F

02/22 23:57, 2年前 , 19F
微妙的新聞 明天開盤台gg了嗎
02/22 23:57, 19F

02/22 23:59, 2年前 , 20F
一部分包莖?
02/22 23:59, 20F

02/23 00:01, 2年前 , 21F
又要開始晶片門抽G蛙做的包莖惹
02/23 00:01, 21F

02/23 00:04, 2年前 , 22F
35%還能出貨???封裝廠都沒這種規格
02/23 00:04, 22F

02/23 00:05, 2年前 , 23F
包莖 plus 很早就有消息要請GG代工了
02/23 00:05, 23F

02/23 00:08, 2年前 , 24F
長官到現場看? 應該指著鼻子大罵 給GG生產 我早就去
02/23 00:08, 24F

02/23 00:09, 2年前 , 25F
35%還量產…是要賠到脫褲嗎
02/23 00:09, 25F

02/23 00:09, 2年前 , 26F
這樣不是成本爆高 獵戶座還生的出來嗎
02/23 00:09, 26F

02/23 00:11, 2年前 , 27F
渡假了
02/23 00:11, 27F

02/23 00:19, 2年前 , 28F
沒50~60也是在出貨了
02/23 00:19, 28F

02/23 00:20, 2年前 , 29F
良率35%……完了GG要噴到宇宙了
02/23 00:20, 29F

02/23 00:24, 2年前 , 30F
看來中芯才是三星的對手
02/23 00:24, 30F

02/23 00:25, 2年前 , 31F
Fab整個賣給tsmc啦
02/23 00:25, 31F

02/23 00:26, 2年前 , 32F
台積省成本 三星減少一些損失
02/23 00:26, 32F

02/23 00:27, 2年前 , 33F
包莖難怪良率這麼差阿
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02/23 00:27, 2年前 , 34F
三星跟中芯可以一起去拍八點檔了
02/23 00:27, 34F

02/23 00:31, 2年前 , 35F
0.9^10 ~=0.35
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02/23 00:33, 2年前 , 36F
其實我都很不懂派管理層去盯線的用意是?
02/23 00:33, 36F

02/23 00:35, 2年前 , 37F
War room阿 沒解完不準出來
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02/23 00:38, 2年前 , 38F
就跟去年疫情不是在吵有空床超多,來現場看哪裡有
02/23 00:38, 38F
還有 20 則推文
還有 1 段內文
02/23 08:30, 2年前 , 59F
心來的 壞的免費
02/23 08:30, 59F

02/23 09:10, 2年前 , 60F
這啥小翻譯
02/23 09:10, 60F

02/23 09:19, 2年前 , 61F
高通這二年旗艦晶片真的鳥,該放棄Android了?
02/23 09:19, 61F

02/23 09:19, 2年前 , 62F
良率再往下掉一點就可以跟高端拼了
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02/23 09:20, 2年前 , 63F
漏尿廠別浪費沙子變成垃圾好嗎
02/23 09:20, 63F

02/23 09:23, 2年前 , 64F
一部分包莖
02/23 09:23, 64F

02/23 09:40, 2年前 , 65F
三星把蘋果跟高通都拖下水過 猛XD
02/23 09:40, 65F

02/23 10:36, 2年前 , 66F
良率35趴 顛覆我的三觀
02/23 10:36, 66F

02/23 10:48, 2年前 , 67F
包莖
02/23 10:48, 67F

02/23 11:12, 2年前 , 68F
35%也在量產,打腫臉充胖子
02/23 11:12, 68F

02/23 11:15, 2年前 , 69F
笑死 包莖訂單是啥
02/23 11:15, 69F

02/23 11:28, 2年前 , 70F
是買一送三嘛?然候跟WTO投訴台G寡佔
02/23 11:28, 70F

02/23 12:10, 2年前 , 71F
良率35%?做一個賠一個..
02/23 12:10, 71F

02/23 12:18, 2年前 , 72F
不知道是不是像台積當初賠老黃的作法,by die 賣
02/23 12:18, 72F

02/23 12:18, 2年前 , 73F
35%…這是試產等級的良率吧
02/23 12:18, 73F

02/23 12:18, 2年前 , 74F
35% 真的很低.
02/23 12:18, 74F

02/23 12:22, 2年前 , 75F
買產能送光罩,以die 算錢, 三星跟二弟不都這樣玩
02/23 12:22, 75F

02/23 12:24, 2年前 , 76F
老黃GPU die size 跟手機CPU不能比
02/23 12:24, 76F

02/23 12:26, 2年前 , 77F
大顆GPU滿血die應該也是不會到35%
02/23 12:26, 77F

02/23 13:38, 2年前 , 78F
02/23 13:38, 78F

02/23 13:39, 2年前 , 79F
曝光!三星員工“捏造半導體制造產量與良率” 偽造3
02/23 13:39, 79F

02/23 13:39, 2年前 , 80F
、4與5奈米節點遭調查
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02/23 13:39, 2年前 , 81F

02/23 13:39, 2年前 , 82F
t-news/article-216581
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02/23 13:39, 2年前 , 83F
還要相信三星半導體還是信三爽絆倒體?
02/23 13:39, 83F

02/23 13:55, 2年前 , 84F
高通盯場 懂製造還會下三星喔…
02/23 13:55, 84F

02/23 14:53, 2年前 , 85F
包莖
02/23 14:53, 85F

02/23 15:24, 2年前 , 86F
三星是高通的大客戶 三星威脅要抽單所以高通才會下
02/23 15:24, 86F

02/23 15:25, 2年前 , 87F
三星 不過既然三星承認良率差 高通可以轉台積 對gg
02/23 15:25, 87F

02/23 15:26, 2年前 , 88F
是好事 但對發哥就不是好事了 同樣是gg製程 發哥就
02/23 15:26, 88F

02/23 15:26, 2年前 , 89F
沒有優勢
02/23 15:26, 89F

02/23 15:54, 2年前 , 90F
原來8gen1本名叫包莖1
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02/23 15:54, 2年前 , 91F
三星就是那麼爛 洗洗睡
02/23 15:54, 91F

02/23 20:19, 2年前 , 92F
包莖不可恥,但要翻出來洗
02/23 20:19, 92F

02/23 21:33, 2年前 , 93F
良率沒過50%的製程就是個屎
02/23 21:33, 93F

02/23 22:37, 2年前 , 94F
三星:不爽不要用… 不轉單就是放給他爛!肯定要跑
02/23 22:37, 94F

02/23 22:37, 2年前 , 95F
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02/24 08:16, 2年前 , 96F
阿就報廢片太多出一堆report才被電爆啊!又沒什麼改
02/24 08:16, 96F

02/24 08:16, 2年前 , 97F
善當然派人去釘很正常
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02/25 08:59, 2年前 , 98F
韓國有35%包莖
02/25 08:59, 98F
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