[外電] 問題在於我們失去了鼠王

看板Sixers作者willyt (優質ㄌㄔ世界一流)時間12年前 (2012/01/13 05:46)推噓3(3推 0噓 13→)

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by Brian Ward via Depressed Fan http://www.depressedfan.com/basketball/sixers/spence-was-missed.php 我簡單翻譯，辭意不到請見諒。 It's hard to believe, but had Spencer Hawes played last night, the Sixers very well may have come away with a win. I'm not even talking about the super-human Spencer Hawes who hit two thirds of his shots over the first six games and grabbed a ton of defensive boards. I mean if they even just had last season's version of their big man, they might've pulled this one out. The Sixers didn't lose this game on the defensive end, in fact, they were awesome defensively (especially Iguodala). They didn't lose the game on the glass, either (75.7%). They lost it on the offensive end. 雖然知道說出來很雷人，但是只要 Spence 今天有出場，這場一定能贏球。本季我一直沒有機會談論 Super Spence 的優秀表現，前六場在他還沒受傷之前，他有著接近 2/3 的命中率(awesome!!)，而且能夠拉下一大堆的防守籃板。如果他是去年的死耗子，那我想他早就應該被抽出 rotation 了。七六人昨天艱難的失敗並不是肇因在防守端 (按:除了一開始的失分，但是直到終場之前我們都看到了靠北的防守也許我更相信這是不得已一定要讓 Battie 上場的關係XD) 我們有著非常可怕的防守表現，尤其是 Iggy 對上 Melo 的防守。而大部分的人可能認為我們輸在禁區的籃板，尤其在他們的名字一字排開很嚇人的情況下，但是昨天我們的防守籃板率是 75.7%，顯然高於聯盟平均。問題在進攻端。 (按:Brian 的 game review 也有提到Iggy對上Melo的表現，我引一下，上個色，這不是主文。反正 NBA 版永遠不相信 Iguodala 每場都貢獻可怕的防守提供一下參考而已。) > The stat line ESPN will report for Melo is 27 points, 9 > boards. Which looks awesome, and makes it seem like he won the > battle with Iguodala. Of course, on the night Melo shot 9/24 > from the floor and turned the ball over 5 times. For seven of > his points (a three in the first, with Jodie guarding him for > some reason, 2 free throws Melo got for stepping on Thad, and > an intentional foul committed at the end of the game), > Iguodala wasn't even on him. If you really want to look at > what happened in that battle, Melo scored 20 points on 23 > shots and 4 free throw attempts. Iguodala was a man tonight. > 如果你只看 boxscores 你可能會覺得 Melo 徹底征服了 Iguodala > 他有著看起來很漂亮的 27 分 9 籃板。 > 但再仔細看下去，他的 Field Goal 是 9/24 > 而且他失誤了五次。 > 他有七分是在 Iguodala 沒有對上他所造成的， > 包括 Jodie 莫名其妙的對上他被他射下三分， > 對上 Thad 單打的兩次罰球， > 以及最後凍結時間關頭的故意犯規兩分 > 而其他的時間，都是 Iguodala 對他形影不離。 > 如果你想知道真正發生了什麼事情，我可以跟你說 > Melo 剩下的 20 分來自 23 次出手加上四次的罰球。 > 這代表什麼，就請看官自己看了，或者去下載 PHI @ NYK 的第四節來看 > 我相信你會看到一些什麼。 Now whether this is a good idea on the offensive end or not, a lot of the Sixers sets are built around Hawes' ability to pass out of the high post. Everyone is familiar with the backdoor passes he connects on once in a while, but that's really the window dressing. The important thing about those sets is that it gets guys moving off the ball, and movement off the ball is the key to getting open shots. Think about it, for a second. When Hawes gets that pass, almost always have two of your offensive threats making hard cuts. One guy is always cutting toward Hawes, to take the hand-off or give him an outlet, while another guy is cutting through the lane, then circling out to the weak side, possibly for an open jumper from the wing. When that action happens, you've got defenders moving and adjusting, and when you're talking about playing a team who always has at least two minus defenders on the floor, well, you're talking about easy hoops. 就不論這是不是個好主意，但是七六人有大量的 set plays 是奠基在 Hawes 的高位處理球上面(!!) 當鼠王拿球站在高位的時候，幾乎所有人都看過他傳給 backdoor cut 的七六人後場球員 (按: like this http://tinyurl.com/7f5tjst ) 但這只是一部分外顯的冰山一角。最重要的是，這些以Hawes在高位 Shallow cut 設計的戰術，讓大家都能夠在不持球的情況下持續流動，也讓球不停的在流動。而只要持續流動我們就能夠得到好的出手機會。再多回想一次，當 Hawes 能夠傳球的時候，至少有兩個後場球員正在cutting 其中一個是在強邊作各項的cutting (backdoor, give 'n goal, UCLA 等等)，拿到球就能直接攻擊籃框。另外一個則是在弱邊繞出來作接球(L-cut, Curl cut 等等) 通常他能在側翼拿到一個 wide-open jumper 如果你要說：之前我們贏球的球隊通常有兩個人在傷害防守端，那那個是easy hoop，並不是我們正在討論的範圍，靠場上所有球員滿出來的腦漿就夠了。 Collins simply didn't have that weapon in his arsenal last night. Vucevic wasn't going to do it with Chandler guarding him, and it's not really Brand's game. Instead, we saw some two-man game with Brand/AI9, we saw a handful of perimeter screens, designed to get the Knicks to switch. We saw Turner running off of curls every once in a while, and we even saw a couple of pick-and-rolls, but mostly what we saw was isolation basketball. Essentially, it was "if all else fails, go one-on-one." And last night, "all else" was failing, for the most part. 但是昨天 Doug 顯然沒有辦法使用這樣武器， Voose 在具長久經驗的 Chandler 的防守之下，並沒辦法作到一樣的事情 (意思是 Voose 顯然還是適合使用在second unit) 而 Brand 是個 mid-post operator, 在高位打開進攻不是他所習慣的。我們昨天看到 AI9 跟 Brand 的雙人配合，我們看到很多讓尼克不得不做 switch 的雙檔，我們也看到 Evan Turner 善用 curl cut 攻擊籃框，我們還是看到很多pick 'n roll，但是基本上我們看到了更多的失敗來自 isolation game. 而其他七六人本季賴以維持進攻效率的優秀部份完全消失。 I have to believe the long scoreless stretches wouldn't have happened if Collins could've fallen back on the set with Spence at the elbow, looking for cutters, and the opportunities that set opens up. Without a guy like Durant who can iso and score efficiently, or a guy like Howard, who you can dump the ball down to in the post whenever you need points, the Sixers really need an old faithful in terms of a play that knocks them out of offensive ruts. Something that gets them moving their feet, and moving toward the hoop. Last night, that was desperately missing. 我必須相信這樣長期的得分乾旱不會發生在能夠有Spence在的高位體系上。我們並沒有一個可以長期使用 iso 可以維持高效率的球員(like Durant) 我們也沒有一個低位的強勢 iso 進攻點(Like howard) 這樣的球員可以自行運作且高效率的取分。但七六人的進攻必須依賴傳統的籃球哲學，多跑動，多流動，但是昨天晚上我們看不到。 -- 我的心得其實也是如此，其實我不相信 Spence 跟 Brand 在對抗中可以抵銷 Tyson 跟 Amare，但是這不是問題，因為 Spence 跟 Brand 可以作高低中鋒，而更多的後場球員在無數的 cutting 當中有機會攻擊籃框，這對於 Amare 跟 Tyson 直覺式的 weak side help 來講都不好應付，我們「原本就是」個防守強隊，今天遇到 Melo, Amare 就能看出來其實我們遇到真正的 All-star threat 並不會吃虧太多，問題是整個進攻少了具有 high basketball IQ 的鼠王的時候，剩下的球員沒辦法自行運作。但是：今年不行，不代表以後不行，我們最大的資產是年輕，其他 Turner 跟 Jrue 能真正變成 go-to guy 的一天。但是至少今年，尼克絕對不是比七六人好的球隊， C's 也不會是。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.243.217.60 ※ 編輯: willyt 來自: 111.243.217.60 (01/13 05:55)

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