[翻譯]奧和莙心得 感謝ccyin

看板Siam-Star作者 (悶)時間15年前 (2009/02/26 15:03), 編輯推噓21(21014)
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感謝正妹佳穎 居然真的把這篇翻成英文耶orz 只好貼上來向她致敬!! 她根本就是個氣質正妹>////< 不過我本來也是個知識青年 所以內容英翻中也真剛好 (攤手 果然比我在奇摩翻譯然後自己校對流暢的好多喔 <--廢話 裡面有些中文就不順的地方連佳穎也翻不出來 XD 有種被這中文逼死的FU,真是辛苦譯者了 orz =============================================================================   There’re plenty emotions in ”The Love of Siam” , and the branches of the story are also interlaced in a complicated way, but if we look at the character of ”Aow” and “June” and compare with each other, it seemed to be another point of view.   愛在暹邏要傳達的感情太豐富,劇情的旁枝側節也盤根錯結,若以經記人奧和莙互相 比較,好像又是另一個觀點。   Just like what ben wrote before, Aow plays a character about leading Mew , narrating his mentality, giving him the guidance about his songs. According to the meaning of the song, we could state that he exports the Mew’ s viewpoint of love. It appears that he mirrors the affections in Mew’s songs and what Mew says in the movie each scene when Aow shows up,   就像ben曾經寫過,奧的角色很像在幫謬領航,闡述謬的心理狀態,並引導他歌曲的 方向,而根據歌曲的傳達意義,也可說是引導謬的感情觀,奧每次出現的片段,都似乎就 是反應謬寫的歌的情感,對映出他的對白和歌曲的情緒。   If we place Aow as a story teller beyond the movie, June’s character is more powerful compared with Aow for her deep and direct involvement in the movie, for jumping impatiently into the story and twisting it in 180 degrees when it comes to the important scene. Therefore, it comes out her own story of June’ s character while she also navigates the story.   而若說奧的角色像個戲外的說書人,莙的角色反而更像奧的加強版,直接跳入故事情 節中一起扭動,好像說書人講到重要情節時按捺不住,恨不得自己進入故事扭轉整個情節 ,因此莙這個媒介除了牽引著故事的走向之外,也有了關於自己的戲碼。   Of course it doesn’t make sense if we consider June as a story teller. After all, her story is also part of the relationship in the family. But if we take close look at her, her appearance and leaving actually affect those people around her more than on herself, so her character quite fits the meaning of catalyst.   當然將莙定位成說書人有點過於牽強,畢竟她的故事也可算親情情節的脈絡之一,但 是若仔細看待,其實她進入再出走,對四周的影響遠大於自己的改變,因此也滿符合觸媒 的定義。   Aow’s character reflects the hidden part of Mew’s heart, we can see it from the beginning of “without love in Mew’s song” to “excellent of the new song what Mew had written”. Even more, his character also reflects Mew’ s anger to himself metaphorically when Aow knew that Mew left the band, because Mew never expresses those feeling from the beginning to the end in the movie. And it can be proved what Mew’s grandma said in the movie “Delivering the feeling to someone in music”, we can consider that Aow is a direct connection to Mew’s music, so we can realize that when MD puts Aow’s character in the movie, a story teller, in a logical and creative way.   奧的角色反映出謬沒有演出的內心部分,從最初「沒有愛(情)」,以至「太好了」, 甚至對沒有主唱的憤怒都展現出謬對自己的生氣,因為謬始終沒有把這些 情緒表達出來 ;其實這邊也有對證阿嬤說的「用音樂傳達自己的情感給某個人」,奧是最直接接到謬的 音樂的人,因此胖導在安排這個說書人時,如此設定合乎邏輯 又充滿巧思。   By observing the meaning of Aow to Mew, we can see that June is related to Tong.   奧對於謬,而莙的說書對象是棟。   Comparing the first scene that Aow and Mew appear and Aow plays a mentor and reflects the inner side of Mew, June’s character is an echo to Tong honestly. For example, when Tong tried to buy some cigarettes, June bought it for Tong very naturally. Being a High-school student's, Tong needs the mother to send and pick up after school, June feels is astonished. This section of plays have proven the Tong’s weakness, also to make the impression that “Tong has become a mature man” after Tong saying “It is OK, I‘ll go home by myself".   相較於奧與謬的初次見面,奧用「指導」的方式展現謬的內心,莙則是毫無破壞性的 對應著棟,譬如棟要裝大人學抽菸,莙就順手揭過這個要求;卻又對棟都高中了還要母親 接送感到訝異,這邊也呈現了棟的不成熟,也藉機為後續「今天不用,我會自己回家」的 對白留下了「原來棟長大了」的印象。      In the end, June made Tong’s family realize the value of the affections between them by the game, and it was also decorated by Tong, and Tong became more matured that time.   而最終莙再藉由「尋寶遊戲」讓棟一家明白親情為何,這時也是藉由棟著手佈置,而 此時的棟已經自我成長了。   We can see that the influences of Aow to Mew or June to Tong are all revealed after the beginning, In the mean time, then, Tong and Mew interact with each other or with other persons, finally they develops the most complete disposition. Aow and June plays a outsider during the movie, when Tong grew up by himself from the hesitation, Aow and June showed up in the movie again, for Aow was arranging the performance in the backstage, and June handed the letter to Tong in the beverage shop. Afterward, they just let it go and stopped since then   其實「奧-->謬」以及「莙-->棟」的影響,都是起頭之後, m中間變全部是棟謬二人 自己或和其他人的交互作用,性格才進一步的發展完全, 此間奧和莙都坐壁上而觀之, 而當沒有愛謬的出現愛情並伴隨著後續的失落、當徬徨的棟自我成長之後,奧和莙再次出 現,奧最末在後台安排謬的演唱,莙在飲料店 把信封給棟,然後兩人從此就此放手對棟 謬的影響。   Finally, Aow finished the story and left, mand June also finished her story to Tong and left for her own story.   最終,奧的故事說完,自己離場;莙對棟的故事說完,也離場繼續發展自己的性格。      Then, those left behind is some more complex story and emotions for the audience with tears.   留下更加錯綜的劇情和情感給觀眾大哭。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.43.128.225

02/26 15:10, , 1F
大推正妹佳穎!!又正、英文又好(又年輕>///<)
02/26 15:10, 1F

02/26 15:10, , 2F
這世界真是太不公平了......
02/26 15:10, 2F

02/26 15:11, , 3F
ma大推得第一句推文讓我都不知道該如何安慰
02/26 15:11, 3F

02/26 15:12, , 4F
不會阿,ma大也是....... (詞窮 <--被毆
02/26 15:12, 4F

02/26 15:12, , 5F
然後這篇胖導看了一定會大感動!at從故事中的旁觀視角
02/26 15:12, 5F

02/26 15:15, , 6F
來鏡照主角的情感發展,是較為特殊的評論,
02/26 15:15, 6F

02/26 15:15, , 7F
只能說at果然是邊緣人的發聲者啊!(這是褒
02/26 15:15, 7F

02/26 15:18, , 8F
我認真留言,結果被作者插,還詞窮,哭哭
02/26 15:18, 8F

02/26 15:22, , 9F
這是邊緣人在吵架嗎 我無法參與
02/26 15:22, 9F

02/26 15:29, , 10F
好啦你是紅牌啦 耿耿迷兜盟快來暈眩一下
02/26 15:29, 10F

02/26 15:53, , 11F
推推 真的是人正 英文又好
02/26 15:53, 11F

02/26 16:00, , 12F
謝謝
02/26 16:00, 12F

02/26 16:02, , 13F
耿耿推文了!!!! (暈眩 是這樣嘛
02/26 16:02, 13F

02/26 16:31, , 14F
我要代替胖導哭哭了
02/26 16:31, 14F

02/26 16:32, , 15F
佳穎妹妹跟胖導一樣年輕又有才華 而且外貌大勝 5555
02/26 16:32, 15F

02/26 17:41, , 16F
at我也要貼佳穎幫忙翻譯的了~話說我還很龜毛又改了些
02/26 17:41, 16F

02/26 17:42, , 17F
我覺得佳穎大概青筋都要浮出來了 哈哈
02/26 17:42, 17F

02/26 18:12, , 18F
佳穎也有翻你的一篇啊??哪篇哪篇??快貼快貼
02/26 18:12, 18F

02/26 18:42, , 19F
大推正妹佳穎~~~at這篇也真的寫的很好
02/26 18:42, 19F

02/26 18:43, , 20F
我始終也只有一篇啊 哈哈哈
02/26 18:43, 20F

02/26 22:19, , 21F
哎呀...../////////////
02/26 22:19, 21F

02/26 22:20, , 22F
佳穎女神出現了!!!
02/26 22:20, 22F

02/26 22:23, , 23F
正妹佳穎好厲害~
02/26 22:23, 23F

02/26 22:26, , 24F
at寫的很好耶 觀察真入微
02/26 22:26, 24F

02/26 23:35, , 25F
我是正常人阿 (我講不出我內心小羊之類噁爛的話(沒有針對bo
02/26 23:35, 25F

02/26 23:38, , 26F
at越描越黑的感覺
02/26 23:38, 26F

02/26 23:39, , 27F
或是內心是草泥馬之類的話(誰啊
02/26 23:39, 27F

02/26 23:39, , 28F
我一向都走知性的慘綠少年路線好嗎 (然後滑到
02/26 23:39, 28F

02/26 23:40, , 29F
好啦我現在內心是草泥馬(也太配合了吧= =
02/26 23:40, 29F

02/26 23:44, , 30F
bobo好乖(摸頭)(結果只摸得到眉毛?)
02/26 23:44, 30F

02/26 23:46, , 31F
其實我是想說這樣被招喚出來的時候可以不要叫波波
02/26 23:46, 31F

02/26 23:47, , 32F
可以直接罵髒話?
02/26 23:47, 32F

02/27 00:52, , 33F
耿耿講話好酷喔(暈眩~~~~~<--有沒有很配合
02/27 00:52, 33F

02/27 00:59, , 34F
無聊(冷淡
02/27 00:59, 34F

02/27 01:09, , 35F
BB君 耿耿不會打冷淡了啦(拍拍
02/27 01:09, 35F
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