[外電] Melo: 優秀的射手,糟糕的出手選擇

看板Rockets作者 (J-Crossover)時間5年前 (2018/08/17 20:53), 編輯推噓58(58058)
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https://tinyurl.com/yc54u5tm CARMELO ANTHONY: GREAT SHOOTER, BAD SHOTS He’s known as an elite offensive player (and a defensive liability), but he hasn’t actually been efficient on offense. That’s the enigma that is Carmelo Anthony. It’s a big reason why Oklahoma City, which is both a championship contender and a big spender, was looking to unload his contract this offseason. 他是個精英進攻球員(以及防守端累贅),但他從來沒有在進攻端變得高效過,這是Melo的 未解之謎,這也是OKC作為一支冠軍競爭者以及不怎缺錢的球隊,在這個休賽季拋棄他合 約的最大理由。 Of the 114 players that took at least 700 FGA last season, Carmelo was 105th in Points Per Shot (PPS). His 0.95 points per shot would be the equivalent of feeding a 31.7% 3-point shooter, like Evan Turner or Emmanuel Mudiay, behind the arc. Even Brandon Ingram and Ish Smith were more efficient than Carmelo. 上賽季在114名球員至少出手700次的球員當中,Melo的PPS排名105,他的0.95PPS相當於 一個31.7%三分命中率的等球射手,大概相當於Evan Turner 或者 Emmanuel Mudiay在弧 頂投三分,即使是Brandon Ingram和Ish Smith效率都還比Melo高。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture1.png
It’s not that Carmelo is a bad shooter; he’s an excellent shooter. The problem is his shot selection. Like almost every NBA player, Carmelo is inefficient from mid-range. His 0.786 is the equivalent of shooting 26% from 3. 這並不意味著Melo是個差勁的射手,相反的他是個優秀的射手。他問題在於出手選擇,他 就跟大部分的NBA球員一樣,在中距離很低效。他的0.786PPS相當於一個26%的三分等球射 手。 Again, almost every NBA player is inefficient from mid-range. For example, James Harden averaged 0.782 points per shot from this region last season. A big difference between Harden and Carmelo is that Anthony took 460 mid-range jumpers (to Harden’s 128). Would you want a 26% 3-point shooter taking 460 3-pointers for your team? Carmelo takes the most shots from the area where he is the least efficient. 再強調一次,大部分的NBA球員中距離都很低效。舉例,Harden上賽季在這距離的出手平 均為0.782PPS。而兩者間最大不同則在於Melo出手460次(Harden128次)。你會想要一個 26%三分命中率的射手在你的球隊中出手460個三分嗎?而Melo就是在他最低效的區域出手 了大部分球權。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture2.png
But now Carmelo joins Houston, the NBA’s leader in shot selection. While Oklahoma City still relied on the mid-range for 22% of their FGA, Houston led the NBA with just 8% of their FGA coming from these inefficient jumpers. 但Melo加入了火箭,一支在出手選擇上領先全聯盟的球隊。當OKC還在依賴占了他們總出 手22%的中距離時,火箭就已經把這個最低效的跳投選擇壓到了剩8%。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture3.png
Houston shot selection worked. They averaged 1.15 points per possession, the best in the NBA. In fact, 1.15 points per possession was the 10th most efficient NBA season ever and the 3rd most efficient season of the last 20 years (only behind the 2009-10 Suns and 2016-17 Warriors). 火箭這出手選擇起了作用,他們1.15PPP是NBA最佳。事實上,1.15PPP是有史以來第10佳 的進攻效率賽季,而在過去20年來,為第3佳的進攻效率賽季(僅次於09-10太陽以及16-17 勇士)。 Consider how Carmelo’s shot selection compared to Houston’s top two scorers, Harden and Chris Paul, and to Trevor Ariza, who Houston lost to free agency and whose minutes Carmelo is likely to replace. 將Melo的出手選擇與火箭兩大頭號得分手Harden、CP3,以及Ariza去相互做比較。 39% of Carmelo’s FGA came from mid-range, while only 9% of Harden’s FGA came from that zone. Ariza, who played largely off the ball, saw only 1% of his FGA from mid-range. Even Chris Paul, who is one of the league’s most efficient mid-range shooters, took a significantly lower percentage of his FGA from mid-range than Carmelo. Melo中距離佔39%總出手數,而Harden只有9%。Ariza,他大部分時間都打無球,只佔1%, 即使是CP3這種聯盟最高效的中距離射手,也比Melo少很多。 If we want to get a sense of how Houston’s offensive system might impact Carmelo’s shot selection, Chris Paul is a valuable case study. Paul jumped from the Clippers to the Rockets a year ago, and saw his percentage of FGA from mid-range drop from 41% to 23%. 如果我們想知道火箭進攻體系將會如何影響Melo進攻選擇,那麼CP3就是個最具價值的例 子。CP3在一年之前從快艇轉到火箭,而他的中距離比例從41%降到23%。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture5.png
And remember, Chris Paul is one of the NBA’s best from mid-range. Carmelo is not. Do not expect Houston to stomach inefficient deep twos from Anthony. 別忘了,CP3是聯盟中最好的中距離射手之一,而Melo則不是。別期待火箭會去容忍Melo 那低效的長兩分出手。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture4.png
But let’s go back to Trevor Ariza’s shot selection. It’s likely Carmelo will fill Ariza’s role in many of Houston’s offensive sets. Ariza took almost no mid-range jumpers. Instead, he relied heavily on corner and above-the-break 3s. When Ariza did attack inside the arc, he typically went all the way to the hoop. Expect Carmelo’s shot selection next season to venture in this direction, and that’s a good thing for Carmelo and Houston. 回頭過來看Ariza的出手選擇,很可能Melo會扮演Ariza在進攻端腳色。Ariza幾乎沒出手 中距離,相反的,他更依賴大量的底角以及弧頂三分。當Ariza在三分線內出手,基本上 他就是進攻籃框。若Melo的進攻選擇能朝這方向走,那麼對火箭以及Melo是好事。 Houston relies heavily on the individual skills of both Harden and Paul in the offense. Often, one of the two has the ball at the top of the key. Either off a big man’s screen or in isolation, Harden or Paul will look to penetrate. (According to NBA. com, Houston averaged 15.6 isolation possessions per game, four more than any other team.) To give these attacking players the most space possible, Houston makes sure to space to the 3-point line with their other perimeter players. 火箭進攻大量的仰賴於Harden以及CP3的個人技巧,經常其中一個就待在弧頂。兩者都會 透過長人掩護或者單打來破解防守(據NBA. Com,火箭場均15.6次單打回合,比其他球隊 高出4次),火箭會用外線三分球來拉開空間,確保這些進攻球員盡可能地擁有越多的空間 。 Expect Carmelo to play the role of spacer most often. If his man collapses to help on Harden or Paul’s drive, those teammates will kick to Carmelo for 3. On catch-and-shoot threes last season, Carmelo averaged 1.12 PPS. On wide-open threes, he averaged an excellent 1.27 PPS. 預計Melo大部分時間都會扮演拉空間的腳色。若對位Melo的防守者去協防Harden或者CP3 的切入,那麼Melo會接到傳球投三分。上賽季Melo C&S平均為1.12PPS,空檔三分為優秀 的1.27PPS。 Carmelo has the ability to be an excellent offensive player, and the key to unlocking that ability is shot selection. No team optimizes shot selection like the Rockets. If Houston can reduce Anthony’s mid-range attempts while getting him more open catch-and-shoot threes, expect his 2018-19 scoring to more closely resemble what’s in the following table. Melo有能力成為一個優秀的進攻球員,而關鍵在於解鎖Melo投籃選擇。沒有哪支球隊在優 化投籃選擇方面能比肩火箭,若火箭能減少Melo中距離出手,同時給他更多空檔C&S 三分 ,那麼可以期待他的18-19得分會很接近如下表格所示。 http://shottracker.com/images/articles/Picture6.png
Recall that Carmelo’s 0.95 PPS in 2017-18 ranked 105th among 114 players with at least 700 FGA. He was one of the least efficient high-usage players. At 1.12 PPS, he’d rank 19th, better than Kyle Lowry, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul, and Giannis Antetokounmpo. Melo17-18賽季,0.97PPS在114名至少出手700次的球員中排名105,他是聯盟中進攻最低 效的高USG球員之一。而1.12PPS則排名19,比Kyle Lowry, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul, and Giannis Antetokounmpo還優秀。 As the table shows, if Houston can alter Carmelo’s shot selection, they’ll also be able to get an additional 2.5 points from him on the same quantity of shots he saw in Oklahoma City. 2.5 points may not seem like a lot, but if everything else remains the same, an additional 2.5 points per game projects to an additional six wins. 如表格所示,若火箭能改變Melo出手選擇,他每次出手都能得到額外的2.5分,在OKC這額 外2.5分看起來可能不多,但所有方面都保持不變的話,這每場額外的2.5分可以多6勝。 In a basketball game, each team gets approximately the same number of possessions. The team that is the most efficient with those possessions wins. When it comes to shots, teams and players can increase their efficiency in two ways. They can shoot a higher percentage on the shots they take. Or, they can take better shots. 在籃球比賽中,每支球隊的回合數都差不多,所以每一回合更高效的那支球隊會贏球。談 到投籃,能讓球隊以及球員提升效率有兩種方式,他們要嘛提高命中率,不然就是去投那 更好的出手選擇。 Carmelo has always been a shot-maker. He has elite offensive ability. But as the league has trended to better shot selection, Carmelo hasn’t adjusted. If any team can right this ship, it’s Houston, and if they do, Carmelo will return to being one of the NBA’s elite offensive players and Houston might have enough to overtake the Warriors and reach the NBA Finals. Melo一直以來都是那種可以自行創造出手空間的球員,他有著精英進攻能力,但是現在聯 盟趨勢是更好的出手選擇,而Melo從來沒對此調整過。如果說有哪支球隊能修正,這會是 火箭,如果他們這麼做了,那麼Melo會回歸成為NBA中精英進攻球員之一,火箭也許就有 足夠能力去超車勇士抵達總決賽。 不錯的文章 隨手翻了一下 說明了Melo為何進攻如此低效(以現代的角度看) 出手選擇傷害了效率 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 124.8.73.251 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Rockets/M.1534510398.A.B1D.html

08/17 22:42, 5年前 , 1F
34歲底薪老將,要求隨便就好了,不行就拉RA上來
08/17 22:42, 1F

08/17 23:06, 5年前 , 2F
所以green在火箭很自在 球會到你手上代表砍就對了
08/17 23:06, 2F

08/17 23:07, 5年前 , 3F
球分給瓜就是適合他打掉的機會 不管是單打或c&s
08/17 23:07, 3F

08/17 23:43, 5年前 , 4F
要求隨便? Melo自己都不會這樣想吧 這邊還沒要求
08/17 23:43, 4F

08/17 23:43, 5年前 , 5F
防守呢
08/17 23:43, 5F

08/18 08:43, 5年前 , 6F
Melo一定是當第三單打點用的,讓他一直去三分等球
08/18 08:43, 6F

08/18 08:43, 5年前 , 7F
那根本浪費
08/18 08:43, 7F

08/18 10:23, 5年前 , 8F
1F反串爽了沒
08/18 10:23, 8F

08/18 10:23, 5年前 , 9F
文章一定沒看完吧
08/18 10:23, 9F

08/18 10:24, 5年前 , 10F
有cp3在我倒是很放心
08/18 10:24, 10F

08/18 11:13, 5年前 , 11F
我覺得在火箭 melo效率會提高 他的投籃姿勢真的非
08/18 11:13, 11F

08/18 11:13, 5年前 , 12F
常之好
08/18 11:13, 12F

08/18 11:15, 5年前 , 13F
Tucker都改造的很成功了
08/18 11:15, 13F

08/18 22:27, 5年前 , 14F
推翻譯 希望來火箭能讓melo進攻變高效吧
08/18 22:27, 14F

08/19 19:58, 5年前 , 15F
甜瓜真的轉型成功 火箭還有一搏機會
08/19 19:58, 15F

08/19 19:58, 5年前 , 16F
另外一樓 請把文章看完不是來丟人現眼
08/19 19:58, 16F

08/19 20:05, 5年前 , 17F
熱火已經對RA交易案不感興趣了
08/19 20:05, 17F

08/19 20:06, 5年前 , 18F
如果我們換到JR會不會算賺啊
08/19 20:06, 18F

08/19 21:34, 5年前 , 19F
主幹雙衛、卡佩拉、塔克,有這四人就不用太擔心了。
08/19 21:34, 19F

08/19 21:35, 5年前 , 20F
還有戈登,火箭還是很不錯的,安德森有沒有交易走,
08/19 21:35, 20F

08/19 21:36, 5年前 , 21F
我不是太關心,反正他也換不到決定性的球員。
08/19 21:36, 21F

08/19 21:37, 5年前 , 22F
如果要貼首輪賠掉未來資產,我是覺得不值得。
08/19 21:37, 22F

08/19 21:43, 5年前 , 23F
雙衛、甜瓜、戈登、塔克、卡佩、綠、奶奶、恩尼斯
08/19 21:43, 23F

08/19 21:44, 5年前 , 24F
這樣就9人輪替了,冷笑話不會用太多人輪替的。
08/19 21:44, 24F

08/19 23:32, 5年前 , 25F
RA只能換到輪替球員 說實話能換到的 上場大概也部會
08/19 23:32, 25F

08/19 23:32, 5年前 , 26F
太久
08/19 23:32, 26F

08/20 11:26, 5年前 , 27F
連點雅量都沒的人,才丟人吧
08/20 11:26, 27F

08/20 11:37, 5年前 , 28F
Ra例行賽也可上調節調節體力
08/20 11:37, 28F

08/20 11:38, 5年前 , 29F
還有麥卡威啊,倒是nene,我覺得可能很少上了,除非
08/20 11:38, 29F

08/20 11:38, 5年前 , 30F
當傷兵的救火隊
08/20 11:38, 30F

08/20 12:00, 5年前 , 31F
啥雅量? 總版要怎樣串隨你 隊版也這樣搞?
08/20 12:00, 31F

08/20 12:39, 5年前 , 32F
自己在外面愛串看衰路線就算了在球隊討論區還搞這招
08/20 12:39, 32F

08/20 12:40, 5年前 , 33F
一個就是沒自信 一個是看不起火箭能幫瓜
08/20 12:40, 33F

08/20 13:24, 5年前 , 34F
那想法沒很怪啊,怎知人家不是真那麼想?說人反串有
08/20 13:24, 34F

08/20 13:24, 5年前 , 35F
點武斷吧
08/20 13:24, 35F

08/20 13:33, 5年前 , 36F
硬要凹耶 把RA提出來還不夠酸啊
08/20 13:33, 36F

08/20 13:34, 5年前 , 37F
以火箭目標還要重啟RA就是失敗賽季了啦
08/20 13:34, 37F

08/20 13:36, 5年前 , 38F
RA被人家痛打打點成那樣還期望瓜會比他慘?
08/20 13:36, 38F

08/20 13:37, 5年前 , 39F
覺得不是反串的意思是一樓本來就覺得瓜比RA差? 他
08/20 13:37, 39F
還有 37 則推文
08/23 20:47, 5年前 , 77F
...哪可能 這啥神操作
08/23 20:47, 77F

08/23 20:48, 5年前 , 78F
真的這樣然後回火箭大家會爽死
08/23 20:48, 78F

08/23 20:50, 5年前 , 79F
不知道 有乳摸在說大腸可能會買斷他 然後回火箭
08/23 20:50, 79F

08/23 21:02, 5年前 , 80F
.............
08/23 21:02, 80F

08/23 21:02, 5年前 , 81F
這是甚麼劇情會變這樣
08/23 21:02, 81F

08/23 21:02, 5年前 , 82F
要這樣 RA 送去換他回來都好
08/23 21:02, 82F

08/23 21:40, 5年前 , 83F
大腸制服組好像真的蠻搞笑XDDD
08/23 21:40, 83F

08/23 21:46, 5年前 , 84F
沒看到消息啊,是不是誤會什麼?
08/23 21:46, 84F

08/24 10:53, 5年前 , 85F
這假消息吧 太陽幹嘛這麼幹?太離譜了
08/24 10:53, 85F

08/24 17:39, 5年前 , 86F
虎爛的吧
08/24 17:39, 86F

08/24 17:51, 5年前 , 87F
太陽吃飽撐著? XD
08/24 17:51, 87F

08/25 07:59, 5年前 , 88F
簽了在買斷?錢是這樣撒的嗎
08/25 07:59, 88F

08/27 22:25, 5年前 , 89F
我們會不會去找Amare Stoudemire?
08/27 22:25, 89F

08/28 00:54, 5年前 , 90F
不會吧
08/28 00:54, 90F

08/28 02:08, 5年前 , 91F
要也是3D 再一個
08/28 02:08, 91F

08/30 21:15, 5年前 , 92F
Brice Johnson 感覺可以簽看看欸
08/30 21:15, 92F

08/31 02:07, 5年前 , 93F
被快艇耽擱前途的長人
08/31 02:07, 93F

08/31 02:14, 5年前 , 94F
這隻原來還在 對他的印象只有被老河封印而已
08/31 02:14, 94F

08/31 09:14, 5年前 , 95F
可以找阿罵 因為已經有使用說明書XD"
08/31 09:14, 95F

08/31 09:15, 5年前 , 96F
而且在尼克跟melo搭時 反而他投中距離 melo去打內線
08/31 09:15, 96F

08/31 09:15, 5年前 , 97F
中距離有長出來~
08/31 09:15, 97F

08/31 09:54, 5年前 , 98F
內線一堆人要養 別去找沒防守的老人來啊
08/31 09:54, 98F

08/31 10:13, 5年前 , 99F
面框長人寧願用周琦跟哈藤
08/31 10:13, 99F

08/31 11:23, 5年前 , 100F
我們已經有奶奶了 阿嬤功能也一樣 家有一老就好了
08/31 11:23, 100F

08/31 11:53, 5年前 , 101F
Melron被丟啦
08/31 11:53, 101F

08/31 11:55, 5年前 , 102F
沒包籤耶
08/31 11:55, 102F

08/31 12:00, 5年前 , 103F
爛約換爛約還要丟籤 還有天理嗎... 丟Melton算丟籤
08/31 12:00, 103F

08/31 12:01, 5年前 , 104F
之前杯子貓不是還說要兩個籤...
08/31 12:01, 104F

08/31 12:01, 5年前 , 105F
不過我猜大概Melton約搞不定直接交易掉
08/31 12:01, 105F

08/31 12:02, 5年前 , 106F
我們換的是還在養傷不能上場的...
08/31 12:02, 106F

08/31 12:03, 5年前 , 107F
大概主體是Chriss 他約還有三年
08/31 12:03, 107F

08/31 12:04, 5年前 , 108F
6尺10 但不知道側翼打得怎樣
08/31 12:04, 108F

08/31 13:12, 5年前 , 109F
Chriss是很純的PF,不用想讓他打側翼了,想想怎麼讓
08/31 13:12, 109F

08/31 13:12, 5年前 , 110F
他替補餅皇,然後替補的好,比較實際。
08/31 13:12, 110F

08/31 13:16, 5年前 , 111F
在火箭沒外線 統統要馬去打c要馬坐板凳
08/31 13:16, 111F

08/31 13:16, 5年前 , 112F
沒有什麼pf的選項
08/31 13:16, 112F

08/31 13:17, 5年前 , 113F
火箭沒有PF這位置 基本上就是PG+側翼海+C
08/31 13:17, 113F

08/31 13:18, 5年前 , 114F
中鋒是火箭最不缺的位置 所以大概注定要被打入冷宮
08/31 13:18, 114F

08/31 13:19, 5年前 , 115F
他那三分命中 就算防守能跟也不可能打側翼
08/31 13:19, 115F

08/31 13:19, 5年前 , 116F
周琦都比他有機會
08/31 13:19, 116F
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