[情報] Mike Portnoy暗指Dream Theater新歌抄襲

看板RockMetal作者coolfly (]v[EGADET]-[)時間12年前 (2011/12/16 16:33)推噓13(14推 1噓 5→)

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來源：Blabbermouth（http://tinyurl.com/86aqfql）簡單說就是有人在DT非官方網站上指出新歌Build Me Up, Break Me Down 和之前打手槍自選的2011年最愛專輯之一，基督教樂團RED的Until We Have Faces上第一首歌Feed The Machine相像 MP聽完後說：「Check out the first song on JP's fav album of the year.... 聽聽看JP年度最愛專輯上的第一首歌 WOW, the arrangement and orchestration sounds awfully familiar!! 哇~編曲和管絃的編制像爆了!! Surely it must be an intentional "nugget" for the fans... 一定是故意給歌迷的"彩蛋"吧... It couldn't possibly be blatant formula plagiarism now could it...?? 不可能是大剌剌照抄嘛...對吧? I just have to laugh.... : ) 我超想笑的...:)」結果引發網友兩極化的反應，一方指稱MP離團後的表現非常沒品另一方則表示DT在MP還在籍時也有不少作品有別團的影子 MP說：「Hey...I'm not trying to start a war.... and I am indeed totally in a happy place in my life and career... I'm just merely making an observation and posting openly on my own forum like I always have and always will... If anybody ELSE wants to blow this up, it's their choice and doing...not mine! 嘿，我不是想引戰...我對自己現在的生活和工作很滿意...我只不過是把觀察到的事，公開貼在我的個人論壇上，就像我一直在做的一樣...假如有其他人想拿來大做文章，那是他們的事，不是我的」「And PS - to defend music that I co-wrote/arranged (that were cited previously in this thread), there's a difference between 'inspiration corner'/'copping a certain vibe' and blatantly re-writing an existing song or formula section by section... 此外，我要幫我合寫/合編的歌曲辯護一下（前面的討論有人批評它們），『截取靈感』和『複製同樣的氣氛』，與大剌剌地以現成的歌曲為藍本重寫，或是一段一段地去複製人家的編曲，是不同的」「Hey, I'm not mad...just merely sharing an observation as a listener... sorry, when I heard that RED song, it immediately jumped out at me and was pretty obvious.　嘿，我沒生氣...只是分享我作為聽眾所觀察到的事而已...抱歉，當我一聽到RED那首歌這念頭馬上就浮現在我腦海，兩者明顯很像」後面則是Ultimate-Guitar.com之前訪問打手槍問說有歌迷說A Dramatic Turn Of Events和92年的Images And Words很像 JP表示DT很多歌迷觀察入微，不過他們並沒有複製Images And Words的意思 RED - Feed The Machine http://youtu.be/zj2uZO7xnus

Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down http://youtu.be/IPjG_OKlgic

---原文-- Did DREAM THEATER Draw Inspiration From Christian Rock Band? MIKE PORTNOY Seems To Think So - Dec. 15, 2011 A registered user of the DreamTheaterForums.org web site, which is described as the largest unofficial DREAM THEATER fan community on the Internet, has pointed out the alleged similarities between "Feed The Machine", the opening song on "Until We Have Faces", the third full-length studio album from American Christian rock band RED, and "Build Me Up, Break Me Down", a track from the latest DREAM THEATER CD, "A Dramatic Turn Of Events". "Until We Have Faces" was released this past February and was selected by DREAM THEATER guitarist John Petrucci as his favorite album of 2011. The musician, who is responsible for the bulk of the songwriting in DREAM THEATER, told the Roadrunner Records web site, "I just love everything about the RED album. The songwriting, playing and production are all stellar!" After a link to Petrucci's list of top albums of 2011 was posted on the official forum of former DREAM THEATER drummer Mike Portnoy, Portnoy took it upon himself to comment, "Check out the first song on [John Petrucci's] fave album of the year.... WOW, the arrangement and orchestration sounds awfully familiar!! Surely it must be an intentional 'nugget' for the fans... It couldn't possibly be blatant formula plagiarism, now could it...?? I just have to laugh..." Portnoy's post was met with a mixed bag of reactions from the fans on his forum, with some expressing their disappointment over the "classless" way he chose to bring up the topic and some suggesting that DREAM THEATER has always drawn "inspiration" from other bands, even while Mike was still a member of the group. This led to Portnoy's follow-up message in which he wrote, "Hey...I'm not trying to start a war.... and I am indeed totally in a happy place in my life and career... I'm just merely making an observation and posting openly on my own forum like I always have and always will... If anybody ELSE wants to blow this up, it's their choice and doing...not mine!" He added, "And PS - to defend music that I co-wrote/arranged (that were cited previously in this thread), there's a difference between 'inspiration corner'/'copping a certain vibe' and blatantly re-writing an existing song or formula section by section..." He continued, "Hey, I'm not mad...just merely sharing an observation as a listener...sorry, when I heard that RED song, it immediately jumped out at me and was pretty obvious." This past September, a longtime DREAM THEATER fan posted an article online which pointed out the alleged musical and structural similarities between "A Dramatic Turn Of Events" and the group's breakthrough 1992 release, "Images And Words". When asked by Ultimate-Guitar.com for his response to the article, Petrucci said, "I think our fans enjoy analyzing our music and looking at things under a microscope and stuff, and it shows the level of passion from the fans for what we do. They look at what we're doing, and they wanna know what's going on. With every album people wanna try to find hidden messages and new meanings, secret nuggets and things like that. People have always searched for those types of things in our music. It shows how much our listeners are strongly interested in what we're doing in a very detailed manner." He added, "We really like music. We have a certain thing that we try to accomplish musically, a certain sound that makes us who we are. The core elements of DREAM THEATER, of who we are and how we make music. Those are elements that are identifiable. That's what gives the band its sound, and keeps the band having an identity." After being pressed to comment on the fan's allegation that DREAM THEATER "simply rewrote 'Images And Words'" for "A Dramatic Turn Of Events", Petrucci said, "We wouldn't rewrite an album, no. That wouldn't be something that we would do." -- I had nothing but the embittered sun... 我一無所有，除卻那怨毒的太陽…… -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.38.120.163 ※ coolfly:轉錄至看板 DreamTheater 12/16 16:36

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