[外電] 今年冬天 該怎麼整合一堆好球員

看板Rangers作者 (都瑞米)時間11年前 (2012/10/08 23:57), 編輯推噓20(20033)
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http://tinyurl.com/8unp4he Breaking Down How the Texas Rangers Can Solve Their Talent Overload This Winter By Zachary D. Rymer (MLB Lead Writer) on September 6, 2012 Darn those Texas Rangers. As if having the best record in the American League and two straight American League pennants to show off wasn't already good enough, they also have a problem that every team in baseball would love to have. The Rangers have too much talent. 條子有個讓人稱羨的困擾: 好球員太多了 Yeah, yeah. We can debate for hours whether or not the phrase "too much talent" has any business being uttered inside or outside of baseball. Teams need as much talent as they can get, and the Rangers don't have "too much" talent so much as they have "more than most." But let's face it. With guys like much-hyped shortstop prospect Jurickson Profar and third-base prospect Mike Olt ready to contribute, the Rangers are in a bit of a tough spot all of a sudden. Profar and Olt are no use to them as backups going forward, and spots aren't going to open up for them to play every day unless Rangers GM Jon Daniels makes a trade or two. 頂級新秀 Jurickson Profar 和 Mike Olt 都已經準備好了 可是大聯盟沒有他們的先發位置 也不可能讓他們打替補 If he were to make a couple trades to accommodate Profar and Olt, it's true that he would be sacrificing the team's considerable depth. However, he has the kind of tradeable assets that could bring back star players in return, thus making the Rangers an even stronger team even despite their sudden lack of depth. To this end, it's time to have a talk about the Rangers' options this winter. 讓我們來討論一下 如果想透過交易的方式解決 有哪些可供參考的選項 Trade Elvis Andrus? Jurickson Profar arrived in the big leagues as the No. 2 prospect in all of baseball, according to Baseball America. He proceeded to live up to the hype by homering and doubling in his debut. There's basically no going back for Profar now. He has little left to prove in the minor leagues, and Anthony Witrado of The Sporting News pointed out that the Rangers wouldn't have called him up in the first place if they didn't have it in mind to make Profar an everyday player in 2013. In order for them to do that, somebody's going to have to go. And since Elvis Andrus and Profar play the same position, Andrus is the obvious trade candidate. 頂級新秀 Profar 基本上已經回不去小聯盟了 他在小聯盟已經幾乎沒有需要證明的能力 為了要讓他能夠天天先發 有人必須要離開 貓王 Elvis Andrus 顯然是個選項 Many have noted as much, including Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com. He floated the idea of the Rangers trading Andrus and prospects to the Tampa Bay Rays for David Price, who is getting to be too expensive for the Rays. Price is not too expensive for the Rangers, and he's appealing for them because he's one of the top aces in baseball. The Rangers have been a great team for a few years now, but a true No. 1 starting pitcher is something they've been lacking. 把貓王加幾個新秀拿去換 David Price 如何? Price對光芒而言太貴 但對條子來講Price不算太貴 而且是朝思暮想的 true ACE The Rays may not go for Andrus seeing as how he's a Scott Boras client who is scheduled to hit free agency after the 2014 season. That doesn't make him completely untradeable, though, as there are surely a lot of teams that wouldn't mind coughing up pitching for a shortstop who leads all major league shortstops in WAR, according to FanGraphs. For example, the Arizona Diamondbacks could be willing to do an Andrus-and-prospects swap for Justin Upton (pure speculation on my part). 光芒或許會因為 Andrus 是波拉斯的客戶而拒絕這筆交易 但還有其他交易的選項 比如說貓王加幾個新秀換 Justin Upton ? The obvious hangup here is that Andrus is 24 and still getting better as a player. The Rangers may be better off trying to lock him up, choosing instead to trade someone else. 交易貓王最大的困擾是 他才24歲而且一年比一年好 條子也許會考慮用個長約把他綁住 而不是交易他 Trade Ian Kinsler? The Rangers and Ian Kinsler just agreed to a five-year extension this past April. The notion of turning around and trading him is pretty silly, right? Not really, actually. Inking Kinsler to an extension was the right idea at the time, as he was fresh off a 2011 season in which he posted the sixth-highest WAR among all major league players, according to FanGraphs. The Rangers figured they were locking up a superstar. Unfortunately for them, Kinsler has regressed to where he was in 2010. His on-base percentage of .336 is not going to cut it seeing as how he's the club's leadoff hitter. He needs to be a lot closer to .400, and that's a mark he's avoided even in his best years. 今年四月條子才與 Kinsler 簽下五年延長合約 馬上把他交易走 是不是蠢翻了? 實際上並不是這樣 2011年小金交出聯盟第六高的 WAR 不幸的是今年球季退回他2010年的樣子 只有 .336的上壘率讓他看起來不像首棒打者 Trading Kinsler instead of Andrus was an idea that Evan Grant of The Dallas Morning News proposed in a recent chat, saying it would make sense to at least explore the possibility. My guess is that Kinsler's value would be about equal to Andrus' out on the trade market. He may be older and more expensive, but the fact that he's locked up through 2017 with an option for the 2018 season could lead second-base-needy teams to go after him. Star second basemen who are controllable just don't show up on the trade market all that often. 作者認為 Kinsler 的交易價值與貓王差不多 他是個明星二壘手且可以控制到2018年 市場上這樣的選手不很常見 If I had to throw a fit for Kinsler out there, I'd have to go with the Toronto Blue Jays. They have a very deep farm system, they don't have a long-term answer at second base and Kinsler would fit well in the powerful lineup Alex Anthopoulos has put together. Come to think of it, Daniels should have all AL East teams on speed dial this winter. Things are getting awfully real in that division. 把 Kinsler 交易給藍鳥是個選項 他們還在尋找長期2B的解答 而且有肥沃的農場 If the Rangers were to trade Andrus, they could put Profar in his place. If they were to trade Kinsler instead, they could move either Andrus or Profar to second base. Either trade would solve the Profar dilemma. As for the Mike Olt dilemma... 交易貓王的話 Profar可以頂替他的位置 交易小金的話 可以選擇把貓王或Profar放在2B 兩種方法都可以解決現在的困境 接下來繼續想怎麼處理 Mike Olt 吧 Trade Mitch Moreland ? Olt is a third baseman by trade, but he's played a little first base and a little right field since he got the call to the majors. Olt probably isn't going to be playing third base for the Rangers on an everyday basis in the near future. That's Adrian Beltre's home, and he's pretty darn good. Right field is also a tough one, as that's Nelson Cruz's position and he's also pretty good. That leaves first base, a place where Mitch Moreland has established himself as a solid offensive producer and a decent defensive presence. Olt 是個三壘手 也有在大聯盟守1B或RF的一點點經驗 可是目前三壘的 Beltre 與右外野的 Cruz 都非常好 一壘的 Moreland 也證明自己是個合格的一壘手 The Rangers could go with a Moreland/Olt platoon at first base next season, but that wouldn't be the most efficient way to play things. Moreland has become too good to be a part-time player, and giving Olt part-time duty would make it hard for him to make good on his star-level potential. Instead of keeping both Moreland and Olt and holding both of them back by stashing them in a platoon situation, why not bolster the team by trading Moreland? 讓 Moreland/Olt 這兩個一左一右的打者分享一壘呢? 這看起來不會是最有效率的辦法 Moreland 打替補太浪費了 只給明星潛質的 Olt 一個兼職的工作也說不過去 這個位置容不下兩個人 那把 Moreland 交易掉呢? This is another idea that Grant proposed in his chat, and I think it's a good one because the market for Moreland's services could be more demanding than you may think. Moreland is just now coming into his own as a player, and the timing couldn't be more perfect seeing as how he still has several years of arbitration eligibility before he hits free agency. Plenty of teams out there could use a first baseman like him. Such as, for example, the Seattle Mariners, Boston Red Sox, Tampa Bay Rays (yup, them again) and the Miami Marlins. If the Rangers trade Moreland, they could stash Olt at first base and never look back. 這是個好主意 因為 Moreland 的價值可能超過你的想像 許多隊都需要像他這樣 便宜又可以控制幾年的一壘左打者 比如說水手、紅襪、光芒、馬林魚 把 Moreland 交易走之後 就可以讓 Olt 一直待在一壘了 If they'd rather keep both Moreland and Olt around—and they just might seeing as how both of them are talented and controllable—they could trade someone else instead. 如果想同時留住這兩個選手 那只好想想有沒有別的位置可以容納 Olt Trade Nelson Cruz? Since 2009, the only right fielders with higher slugging percentages than Nelson Cruz are Jose Bautista and Giancarlo Stanton, according to FanGraphs. He can definitely hit the ball far, and for that, the Rangers are forever grateful. The problem with Cruz is that power is really all he brings to the table. He's at best a decent right fielder, and he's neither going to hit for a high average nor post a high on-base percentage. 自從2009年以後 SLG比Cruz高的RF只有 Bautista 和 Stanton 但他的打擊率與上壘率不太能讓人滿意 The Rangers could make Cruz their full-time DH in 2013 in order to pave the way for Olt to play every day in right field, but that would leave Ron Washington with virtually no means to squeeze Michael Young into the lineup every day. And, you know, that's kind of a problem for Washington, for good or ill (mostly ill). 讓 Olt 把守RF 然後讓 Cruz 當個全職DH如何? Ron Washington 幾乎不可能這樣做 因為這代表沒辦法把 Michael Young 放入每日輪值 So one option is for the Rangers to trade Cruz, who has a year to go before he hits free agency. Teams that need power in right field (or at DH) would be interested. The only issue is that the Rangers wouldn't get as much in a trade for Cruz as they'd get in a trade for Andrus and Kinsler due to Cruz's age, his one-dimensional skill set and his dying contract. If Daniels would prefer to get a huge return in a trade (and why wouldn't he?), there's someone else besides Andrus and Cruz who he could consider trading. 把 Cruz 交易走是一個辦法 但問題是他沒有像 Andrus 或 Kinsler 那樣的交易價值 他年紀已經大了 也只剩下一年合約 把他交易走換不到太多東西 Trade Adrian Beltre? Adrian Beltre was worth every penny for the Rangers in his first season with the team in 2011, and he's once again providing tremendous value in 2012. In fact, I have him right up there behind Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout in the AL MVP race. This is in no small part thanks to his recent hot stretch, but Beltre deserves due credit for being one of the Rangers' most consistent players all season long. 另外一個可以得到豐厚回報的交易選項是 Adrian Beltre 他值得條子所付的每一分錢 他在2011與2012都提供了巨大的貢獻 是團隊中最穩定的選手 Since he has another three years and a vesting option for 2016 left on his contract, it's safe to say Beltre isn't going anywhere, right? Yeah, probably. I haven't seen or heard of any chatter that the Rangers may be considering trading him, nor would I expect to hear any seeing as how Beltre is having an MVP-caliber season for a World Series-caliber team. So let's be clear: The notion that the Rangers might trade Beltre this offseason to clear some space for their youngsters is pure speculation on my part. I don't think such speculation is too outlandish, though. Beltre's value on the trade market is going to be sky-high this season, and trading him now before he gets too old could very well work out for the Rangers in the end. 從來沒有聽過條子想交易 Adrian Beltre 的傳言 就當是瞎猜測吧 但這個猜測還是有點道理的 因為現在 Beltre 的交易價值像天一樣高 趁他還沒有變得太老 把他交易走 可能會是筆成功的買賣 And make no mistake, it won't be long before Beltre gets old. He's already 33 years old, and he has a lot of miles on his body seeing as how he's been in the majors since he was 19 years old. A couple years from now, he could be an albatross. Other teams will be worried about this, too, but the Rangers would still be able to find a taker for Beltre if they were to dangle him. And if they were to trade him, they'd be able to go with a very young infield. 已經33歲的 Beltre 不用太久就會開始老化 兩年後他可能變成讓人煩惱的重擔 當然其他隊也會考量這點 但還是可以找到願意交易的球隊 Olt would be the most obvious fit at third base, but plugging him in there wouldn't solve the Profar/Andrus conundrum. Instead, the Rangers would be better off playing Andrus at third (he played there in the All-Star Game) and stashing Profar at short. They'd then have Kinsler at second and a platoon of Moreland and Olt at first. If Moreland is also traded, the Rangers could move forward with an infield of Andrus, Profar, Kinsler and Olt. The only one of the four over the age of 24 is Kinsler, and he still has a few years to go before he exits his prime. 假設將 Beltre 交易走 那 Olt顯然是個最適合接手的球員 但這樣並不能解決 Profar/Andrus 的難題 條子可能會選擇把 Andrus 送到三壘 讓Profar站游擊 Kinsler站二壘 而 Moreland/Olt 分享一壘 如果再把 Moreland 也交易掉 那 Andrus/Profar/Kinsler/Olt 的內野防線只有小金超過24歲 而且他會在條子待上很長很長一段時間 That's the hell of it. Even if the Rangers trade off talented players like Beltre and Moreland, they'll still have an infield that the rest of the league will envy. 真該死 即使把 Beltre 和 Moreland 這兩個好球員都交易走 條子內野陣容還是讓其他球隊羨慕 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.169.45.55 ※ 編輯: kaijun 來自: 118.169.45.55 (10/09 00:03)

10/09 00:02, , 1F
推 該死!第一次因為好球員太多而這麼煩惱 都很喜歡耶
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10/09 00:07, , 2F
Beltre是很重要的砲管耶!!!(雖然文章只是假設XD)
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10/09 00:08, , 3F
老實說我自己覺得吹哥是整季最穩的 不論打守
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10/09 00:08, , 4F
k大到底都從哪邊找到這些專業的文章呀?我常常去外電
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10/09 00:08, , 5F
網站翻半天都沒幾篇像這樣的新聞...
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10/09 00:08, , 6F
吹哥基本上應該還可以打一兩年沒問題
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10/09 00:09, , 7F
應該說遊騎兵的相關新聞好像一直都相對比較少耶我覺得
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10/09 00:09, , 9F
內文都超長的XD
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10/09 00:10, , 10F
就本季而言 小金確實比較有被交易的空間 有長打但太盲了..
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10/09 00:11, , 11F
貓王拜託不要放 我認真覺得他是MLB頂級的SS 守備上
10/09 00:11, 11F

10/09 00:11, , 12F
而且就像文內說的 他的砲管還在長 有他當SS真的很安心
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10/09 00:11, , 13F
基本上我覺得把貓王和吹爺送走簡直是自殺的行為= =
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10/09 00:12, , 14F
沒錯 三游是球隊的命脈 拜託別亂來= =
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10/09 00:12, , 15F
小金的話,雖然今年的成績不太讓人滿意,但是誰都有可
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10/09 00:13, , 16F
能像蛋哥一樣突然哪一年中邪XDD 所以小金還是很值得
10/09 00:13, 16F

10/09 00:14, , 17F
期待;而且如果讓他去藍鳥,我們要換誰過來呀?
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10/09 00:15, , 18F
可以期待包爺補外野嗎 (誤)
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10/09 00:15, , 19F
藍鳥:某摳齡
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10/09 00:15, , 20F
至於RF,嚴格說起來我們幾乎只有一個RF吧,Cruz走了是
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10/09 00:16, , 21F
要怎麼辦= = 而且Olt的經驗是不是能讓他在RF有很可靠
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10/09 00:16, , 22F
的防守也是個問題。
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10/09 00:17, , 23F
我覺得這裡面最可行的可能是交易Moreland,他其實很有
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10/09 00:18, , 24F
潛力,但上場的機會真的得可憐,如果別隊有他發揮的空
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10/09 00:19, , 25F
間而且我們又能換到我們想要的人,那只能割愛了...
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10/09 00:19, , 26F
然後抱歉h大我一直斷到你的推文Orz
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10/09 00:42, , 27F
沒差 我不會care~ 一壘除非強到哭爸 不然交易空間很大..
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10/09 00:44, , 28F
除了Moreland其他都不希望走掉XD
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10/09 00:45, , 29F
不過Beltre的交易價值是真的很大就是了
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10/09 00:45, , 30F
而且難保他不會突然退化~"~
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10/09 00:46, , 31F
只要吹哥打擊不要退化太誇張 守備的價值就很夠本了
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10/09 00:48, , 32F
吹爺站三壘真的讓人超放心!!!
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10/09 01:01, , 33F
如果把金小弟 跟YOUNG交易出去 這樣2b 1B DH都有空間@@
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10/09 01:16, , 34F
把YOUNG交易掉會是很傷人的事....
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10/09 01:35, , 35F
比較希望Kinsler留下來...除了Young以外最喜歡的選手
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10/09 01:45, , 36F
Kinsler今年才剛簽了五年的約阿
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10/09 10:17, , 37F
young的合約好像是明年到期吧...
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10/09 12:52, , 38F
我同學跟我說球員剛簽大約第一年表現會下滑 真的嗎?
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10/09 14:33, , 39F
通常簽大約就是爆發年...,下滑其實很正常,多跟少而已
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10/09 14:33, , 40F
如果能繼續一直爆發下去的人...,少之又少啊。
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10/09 15:56, , 41F
吹哥和條子簽約第一年打的比在紅襪那年還好一點..^^
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10/09 21:36, , 42F
吹哥來我們家後整個打出該有水準!
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10/09 23:42, , 43F
吹哥生涯都被safeco害了...
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10/09 23:49, , 44F
內野都很想繼續留的說... 我覺得CRUZ可以放掉...
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10/09 23:51, , 45F
YOUNG沒守備 可以不用留@@
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10/11 20:31, , 46F
他為遊騎兵付出很多...,還是讓他留著退休吧,希望他明年
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10/11 20:32, , 47F
可以反彈XD
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10/11 20:32, , 48F
然後光榮退休!
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10/12 21:03, , 49F
young真的很偉大 一路為遊騎兵付出 從墊底到爭冠
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10/12 21:04, , 50F
也沒什麼架子 要他守哪他就守哪 希望他可以光榮退休
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10/12 21:05, , 51F
現在只希望他明年可以打得超好,讓大家不會懷疑那16M
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10/12 21:05, , 52F
的價值。那麼多人一直在批他看了就好難過ˊ ˋ
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10/13 19:25, , 53F
young真的是遊騎兵核心人物 相信當地球迷都不希望他被交易
10/13 19:25, 53F
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