Re: [討論] 台灣社運界的迷思
這篇文章根本沒講到重點。
第一,台獨為什麼搞不起來?
原因很簡單,因為台獨現在根本不是重點了。
在李登輝當總統的時候,辜寬敏有講過一句話:
"台灣人李登輝已經當了台灣的總統,這表示台灣事實上已經獨立了";
當然,後來的發展證明辜寬敏太樂觀了,
不過從李登輝以後,台灣的本土意識鬥爭就轉為在"中華民國"的框架下,
與國民黨進行對抗,相對之下,"台獨"就比較沒市場了,
所以辜寬敏這句話又算是對的。
第二,承上,台灣社運的重點不該是台獨,而是台灣既有的種種問題;
香港和台灣的情況不同,香港還需要爭取普選權,但台灣不用,
台灣要面對的是國民黨把社會搞爛的大問題,
所以當然也不會著重在政治,而是社會方面的訴求...
第三,台灣社運的真正問題,正如我一再強調的,只有兩個字,"自High"。
遇到問題不去思考如何爭取更多人的認同,反而退到自己的殼裡,
還一天到晚怪民眾"怎麼不了解我們的進步思想"...
這些自欺欺人的蠢蛋,就算再修鍊一百年也拿不到一件青銅聖衣,
更不要說黃金聖衣了啦!!!!
勇敢踏出與民眾溝通的步伐,不自欺、不虛假,這才是台灣社運界該有的救贖;
如果不這樣做的話,就算每週五再怎樣在小圈子裡自high一下,
結果也還是一樣的...
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