[轉錄][外電] Draft Express 體測分析

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※ [本文轉錄自 Kings 看板 #1B_4MLIF ] 作者: Martin23 (宮城馬丁!) 看板: Kings 標題: [外電] Draft Express 體測分析 時間: Wed May 26 05:48:02 2010 http://0rz.tw/7lHgM Analyzing the NBA Combine Measurements by: Jonathan Givony - President May 22, 2010 另一篇體測分析 來自Draft Express (前面略 一些前言跟有趣的) Average Heights/Wingspans/Standing Reaches 體測平均 位置 樣本數 平均高度(裸足) 平均體重 平均臂展 平均站立可摸 PG 8 6'1.69 200 6'6.1 8'2.4 SG 8 6'3.69 207 6'8.3 8'5 SF 10 6'6.33 212 6'10.9 8'9.6 PF 13 6'8.12 232 7'1.7 9'0.2 C 9 6'9.86 262 7'4.4 9'3.3 Notable measurements 值得注意的 -John Wall’s measurements are simply outstanding for a point guard. Physically, he looks superior to Derrick Rose (6-1 ½ without shoes, 6-8 wingspan) and Russell Westbrook (6-2 ¼ without shoes, 6-7 ¾ wingspan), two players he’s often compared with. At 6-2 ¾ without shoes, with a 6-9 wingspan, Wall should have no problem defending NBA shooting guards, making him extremely versatile in the sense that he can be paired in the same backcourt with another combo guard, such as Gilbert Arenas. Add in the fact that Wall was the biggest star of the weekend in both the NBA team and media interviews, and this combine could not have gone any better for him. John Wall - 約翰牆先生最常被拿來跟Rose還有Westbrook比較 然而Wall的體測結果甚至比那兩位都還要更好 人高手長 讓他守到2號位也不是問題 就算跟另一個雙能衛一起放在後場(Ex:Arenas) 也不是問題 總而言之Wall來勢洶洶 體測結果不過是錦上添花 The gap between Wall and Turner appears to be too wide to close at this point, barring something disastrous happening in Washington. 目前Wall跟Turner之間的差距越來越大 除非北韓把華盛頓給炸了 不然巫師閉著眼睛也知道該選誰 -Evan Turner has short arms relative to his height, coming out at a solid 6-5 3/4 without shoes, with a 6-8 wingspan. His wingspan is in fact shorter than that of John Wall, despite being 3 inches taller. That didn’t seem to affect Turner at the college level as a rebounder (9.2 per game) or as a defender (he’ s one of the best perimeter stoppers in this draft), but it will be interesting to see how this affects his finishing ability in the NBA. Turner is considered average from an explosiveness standpoint. Evan Turner- 一切都不錯 就是臂展短了些 甚至比Wall還短 不過這也沒什麼大不了 Turner在NCAA依舊是抓籃板高手(平均9.2個) 也是相當好的外圍防守者 唯一要注意的就是進了NBA之後 他的臂展會不會影響到他的finish能力 Interestingly enough, Turner’s measurements are quite similar to those of Brandon Roy (6-5 ¼ without shoes, 6-8 wingspan), the player he’s most often compared to. Turner常被拿來跟Roy比較 巧的是他的體測結果跟Roy也很像 -DeMarcus Cousins’ measurements are phenomenal. He stands 6-9 ½ without shoes, with a gigantic 7-5 ¾ wingspan and a standing reach of 9-5. He’s a physical specimen at the center position, with measurements similar to that of Brook Lopez (just much bulkier), and superior to those of Dwight Howard (who was 18 at the time he was measured and could have very well grown since), Greg Oden and Al Jefferson. DeMarcus Cousins- 表弟的體測結果相當好 標準的中鋒身材 體測數據跟Brook Lopez蠻像的 甚至要比Dwight Howard(18歲時) 老臉Oden Al Jefferson 還要好 The only concern is his high body fat percentage of 16.3%, which ranks as t 12th-highest figure of any player in our database. By comparison, Mike Sweetney came in at 14.1% and Shaquille O’Neal 12.2%. What’s alarming here is that Cousins is considered to be in the best shape of his life at the moment. Both he and his agent are making a big deal of the fact that he’s been eating as healthy (“seafood and salad diet”) and working out as intensely as he ever has. NBA teams are worried about Cousins resting on his laurels once he’s been drafted and signs a contract. This measurement won’t ease any of those concerns. 好了 又要講到他的16.3%體脂肪 根據徐展元剛剛查到的資料 16.3%是有史以來的第12高 Mike Sweetney(你哪位= =)只有14.1% 歐肥也只有12.2% 一般認為表弟目前的身體狀態 大概已經是有生以來最好的(結果只有這樣) Cousins表示他現在都只吃海鮮跟莎拉 並且還很認真的在做訓練 一旦他被選中之後 他還會努力節食並且訓練嗎 -Derrick Favors’ measurements (6-8 ¾ without shoes, 7-4 wingspan, 9-2 standing reach) are excellent as well, giving him enough size and length to slide into the center position (once he bulks up) and giving him terrific dimensions for a power forward. As the youngest player in the draft, Favors needs to continue to add bulk to his 245-pound frame, but that doesn’t appear to be an issue at all. As time moves on, he will continue to fill out and add muscle in the weight room. Derrick Favors- 身為此次選秀最年輕的選手 Favors的數據也很棒 打PF很好 加重一點就可以打中鋒 不過別擔心 進NBA之後該大的地方就會自己大起來 我是說肌肉 Interestingly enough, Favors’ measurements compare quite favorably with those of Dwight Howard, a player he draws some (perhaps slightly optimistic) comparisons to. Howard measured just a quarter of an inch taller than Favors at the same age, was five pounds lighter and had a wingspan just half an inch longer. His measurements are comparable to the likes of Chris Bosh, Nene and Emeka Okafor, and are superior to those of Al Horford, another player who he’s often compared to. Favors數據跟Howard有點像 像是Bosh Nene還有Okafor那一型的 雖然常被拿來跟Al Horford比 不過他的數據比Horford更好些 -Al-Farouq Aminu measured fairly well too, coming in at 6-7 ¼ without shoes with a massive 7-3 ¼ wingspan. Despite his unimpressive interviews—he looked fairly unenthusiastic and stated repeatedly that he sees himself almost strictly as a small forward—he has enough height and length to see minutes at power forward in a small lineup. His measurements compare favorably to those of Josh Smith (6-7 without shoes, 7-0 wingspan), Jeff Green (6-7 ¾, 7-1 Danny Granger (6-7 ½, 7-1 ½). Al-Farouq Aminu- 阿米牛數據也很棒 雖然他被訪問時都很冷淡 而且一直跳針說他真的只是SF的料 不過他在比較矮小的陣容中還是可以去打PF 科科 比較像是Josh Smith, Jeff Green, Danny Granger Wesley Johnson isn’t far behind him at 6-6 ¼ without shoes with an excellent 7-1 wingspan. Wesley Johnson- 跟阿米牛相差不遠 (按:評語怎麼只有一行 你是Dororo嗎) -Greg Monroe not only has the size, girth and length to play the center position (at 6-9 ¾ without shoes, 247 pounds and a 7-2 ¼ wingspan), that may be his optimal position. He’s a unique player when taking into account his dimensions, basketball IQ and passing ability. He looks like a pretty safe bet to be picked in the top 10. The only concern is his (slightly) higher than normal body fat percentage (11.2%), which probably wouldn’t be an issue if teams didn’t already have reservations about his passion for the game. Greg Monroe- 夢蘿打中鋒很棒 他的身材 籃球IQ 還有傳球能力 能讓它變成一個獨特的球員 他會是前十順位的安全牌 唯一的小瑕疵就是11.2%的體脂肪稍微高了點 -Larry Sanders’ measurements (6-9 ¼ without shoes, 7-5 ¾ wingspan, 9-4 standing reach) are eerily similar to those of DeMarcus Cousins (6-9 ½, 7-5 ¾ , 9-5), minus 70 pounds (292 to 222). As one NBA assistant GM told us—“if you can put 20 pounds on that kid, he [can] be an absolute force in the paint.” Larry Sanders- 測量結果跟表弟幾乎是同一個模子刻出來的 (除了體重) 根據隔壁老王(某個助理GM)表示 如果他再增重20磅 他可以幫你管好禁區 -Dexter Pittman is quite a unique physical specimen in his own right, measuring 6-9 ½ without shoes, with a 7-6 wingspan. He also has the biggest hands in this draft (a new stat) at 10.5 inches. Dexter Pittman- 獨特的大隻身材 最大的手掌(10.5吋) The fact that Pittman tips the scale at over 300 pounds and measuring nearly 21% body fat (fourth highest in history after Chris Marcus, Oliver Miller and James Lang) tells us that he still has a long ways to go with his conditioning. But if he’s willing to commit himself, he could carve out a long and lucrative professional career. 300磅的嚇人體重 史上第四高的21%體脂肪 加油好嗎 不過如果有恆心有毅力 他的職業生涯也會是不錯的 -Ekpe Udoh also measured quite nicely: a legit 6-8 ¾ without shoes, with a 7-4 ½ wingspan. He has the size and length to play either the power forward or center spot comfortably, especially if he adds weight to his 237-pound frame. Ekpe Udoh- 數據都不錯 打PF打C都可以 最好再增重一些 -Daniel Orton’s measurements are nearly identical at 6-8 ¾ without shoes, with a 7-4 ¼ wingspan. Add in the fact that he’s 269 pounds and he clearly has the dimensions of a NBA center. He does need to work on his 13.8% body fat percentage though. Daniel Orton- 是打中鋒的料 不過體脂肪13.8% 加油好嗎 -The freakiest measurements of all belong to Hassan Whiteside. The soon-to-be 21-year-old freshman bafflingly elected to arrive for measurements in flip-flops (a true story), which only gave him an additional inch in shoes (6-10 ½ without shoes, 6-11 ½ with)—as opposed to Cole Aldrich who gained 2 ¼ inches. With that said, he possesses one of the longest wingspans in NBA pre-draft camp history at 7-7. 本日最怪異 Hassan Whiteside VS Cole Aldrich 白邊這傢伙 竟然在測量這一天只穿了個夾腳拖來(!?!?) 這雙樓下雜貨店買的藍白夾腳拖 只讓他穿鞋之後高了一吋 有沒有搞錯阿 你隔壁那個阿機機 他可是穿了郭彥甫賣的增高鞋墊 穿鞋之後整整高了2 1/4吋耶!! 不過白邊的臂展7'7 是史上數一數二的 -Looking for a poor man’s John Wall? Take a look at Dominique Jones. He tied with Wall for longest wingspan among point guards in the 2010 class at 6-9 ¼, and measured out a half an inch taller as well. Jones is getting more and more buzz as we predicted in an article a few weeks ago, which highlighted him as one of the biggest sleepers in the draft. Dominique Jones- 買不起John Wall嗎? 這裡有一個窮人板好便宜的 Dominique Jones有跟Wall一樣的臂展 也比Wall高半吋 厝邊巷尾已經越來越多人在討論他了 -Also measuring nicely among the point guards was Armon Johnson: 6-2 without shoes, with a 6-8 wingspan. Eric Bledsoe came out a bit short at 6-0 ¼ without shoes, but his 6-7 ½ wingspan does help compensate for that. On the other end of the spectrum we find Jon Scheyer, the lone player to measure a wingspan shorter than his height, at 6-4 ¾ without shoes, with a 6-3 ¼ wingspan. 其他PG也有不錯的數字 像是Armon Johnson, Eric Bledsoe 不過Jon Scheyer這傢伙臂展還比身高短 怪怪 -Among wing players, Xavier Henry looks terrific, as expected, at 6-5 ¼ without shoes, with an excellent 6-11 ¼ wingspan. He has ample size to play either shooting guard or small forward, which should help ease his transition in defending perimeter players at the NBA level. Xavier Henry- 你棒棒 這些數據要打SG或是SF都可以 在NBA要防守到外圍去應該也不是問題 -Terrico White doesn’t always play like the point guard many project him as, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue considering he’s 6-3 ¾, with a 6-9 wingspan--more than adequate size for an NBA shooting guard. White had a very good weekend here at the combine, looking smooth and polished in the drills and showing off a terrific shooting stroke. He’s a chiseled specimen as well. He has an absurdly low body fat percentage of 3.7%. Terrico White- 去打SG吧 PG不適合你 這個週末表現得很不錯 投籃佳 3.7%體脂肪 肌肉線條不錯 -At 6-2 without shoes, with a 6-7 ¼ wingspan, Avery Bradley might just be able to get by at the shooting guard position, which appears to be a more natural fit for him. Numerous NBA executives pointed out how impressed they were with him this weekend. His stock appears to be rising considerably at the moment. Adding strength to his 180-pound frame looks like a big priority for the freshman at the moment. Avery Bradley- 打SG勉強ok 不過在各隊高層間的評價不錯 後勢看漲 體重180磅 現在要做的就是趕快吃胖 -Willie Warren is not particularly long (6-6 wingspan), but he should be fine seeing minutes at the shooting guard position, considering his 6-2 ½ height. Measuring a legit 6-4 in shoes was a hurdle he needed to clear, and he managed to do so. Willie Warren- SG一隻 -Luke Babbitt (6-7 ½ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan) and Paul George (6-7 ¾ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan) played in the same conference, play the same position and are getting buzz from NBA executives thanks to their impressive measurements and shooting displays at the combine. Their stocks appear to be on the rise. Luke Babbitt- Paul George- 評測佳 投籃佳 後勢看漲 -Gordon Hayward’s wingspan won’t knock anyone’s socks off at 6-7 ¾, compared to his 6-8 measurement in shoes. Gordon Hayward- 普普通通 沒啥好說 -Patrick Patterson looks pretty solid at the power forward position, standing 6-9 and change in shoes, with a 7-1 ¼ wingspan. Combine that with his outstanding interviews in Chicago (some teams called him the most impressive interview of anyone in this class) and he seems to be doing quite well at the moment. Patrick Patterson- 看起來是個相當不錯的PF身材 有些球隊認為他是訪談表現最出色的一個 股價上漲中 -Ryan Richards capped off a spectacular weekend from his perspective, measuring 6-10 ½ without shoes, with a 7-1 ½ wingspan. Even though he has struggled to find a long-term home for himself in Europe, the 19-year old could very well be drafted in the second round and stashed for a year or two in the D-League. Richards is one of the biggest mystery prospects in this draft after playing in Switzerland this past season. NBA teams won’t have the luxury of evaluating him at the adidas EuroCamp in Treviso from what he told us. Ryan Richards- 裸足6-10 ½吋 臂展7-1 ½ 去年在瑞士打球 19歲的他可能會在第二輪被選 放到D-League練個一兩季 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.91.122 ※ 編輯: Martin23 來自: 140.112.91.122 (05/26 05:54)

05/26 07:20,
白邊 XDDDDDDDDDDD 該說他隨性還是隨便呢 XDDD
05/26 07:20

05/26 09:00,
Mike Sweetney就是當初尼克隊的小甜甜
05/26 09:00

05/26 09:42,
太陽加油!
05/26 09:42

05/26 09:46,
替補打得好瘋啊@@
05/26 09:46

05/26 09:48,
所以又回到老問題 表弟掉下來我們要檢還不檢
05/26 09:48

05/26 09:54,
Frye好像復活了,不過緯來怎麼說他以前在阿拓跟尼克都
05/26 09:54

05/26 09:54,
打內線,是我記錯了嗎?
05/26 09:54

05/26 09:56,
沒錯啊 他都打內線啊
05/26 09:56

05/26 09:56,
不是以前就是投射型的@@
05/26 09:56

05/26 09:58,
沒有 有一段時間是讓他打內線 結果發現那不是他的區域
05/26 09:58

05/26 09:58,
算有外線的內線吧 其實他內線活動力還可以
05/26 09:58

05/26 09:58,
到太陽完全轉成外線
05/26 09:58

05/26 09:58,
可是從NYK開始,三年生涯都是16-23feet出手比例最高@@
05/26 09:58

05/26 10:00,
第四年就變成23feet以上出手最多了Orz
05/26 10:00

05/26 10:01,
64:55 Beat LA! Beat LA! Beat LA! Beat LA!
05/26 10:01

05/26 10:02,
內線不夠硬就會變成標準的越打越外面嚕....
05/26 10:02

05/26 10:05,
回到這篇 所以白邊正常穿鞋可能到 7-0~~7-1 之間
05/26 10:05

05/26 10:07,
然後Avery Bradley 的體能條件應該十分有趣
05/26 10:07

05/26 10:08,
可以拿來跟前幾年的 westbrook 做個比較
05/26 10:08

05/26 10:12,
啊,Martin兄抱歉,我只敢在版內亂,版外小孬孬
05/26 10:12

05/26 10:16,
除了wall 外Bradley是個非常有趣的小後衛觀察目標
05/26 10:16

05/26 10:43,
Kobe鬼神表現....
05/26 10:43

05/26 11:01,
藍白拖XDDDDDD 好歹穿個小藍豹吧XD
05/26 11:01

05/26 11:05,
又是替補神經病三分彈!
05/26 11:05

05/26 11:12,
Gentry剩五分鐘還讓替補在場上,真是豪邁
05/26 11:12

05/26 11:17,
太陽板凳暴徒...猛啊
05/26 11:17

05/26 11:18,
替補打順了當然讓替補繼續打 不需要換
05/26 11:18

05/26 11:25,
Beat LA了 好屌!
05/26 11:25

05/26 11:26,
每次看湖人比賽都在想,這樣的湖人打得贏超賽嗎?
05/26 11:26

05/26 11:27,
每次看超賽比賽都在想,這樣的超賽打得贏湖人嗎?
05/26 11:27

05/26 11:28,
超賽的成熟度比較高 整個球隊真的有一體的感覺
05/26 11:28

05/26 11:35,
beat LA
05/26 11:35

05/26 11:38,
太陽真的太帥了 要對小帥哥+達利+阿忙意淫了 XDDDD
05/26 11:38

05/26 11:39,
Amundson之前我記得有在國王的夏季聯盟過 2、3年前
05/26 11:39

05/26 11:39,
還是我記錯
05/26 11:39

05/26 11:40,
其實Beno並不比抓雞雞差 本季Beno也很多令人激賞的表現
05/26 11:40

05/26 11:40,
讓我懷疑斯洛維尼亞的後衛都要是左撇和很會切嗎
05/26 11:40

05/26 11:41,
阿泰感覺完全使不上力,已經夠多持球者了,湖人沒理由
05/26 11:41
還有 42 則推文
還有 1 段內文
05/26 15:17,
再借轉 其實國王休季期間可以兼選秀討論版了XD
05/26 15:17

05/26 15:18,
重看了一次 白邊的臂展7'7 是「史上」數一數二的!!!!!!
05/26 15:18

05/26 15:19,
國王選妃版(...光速逃)
05/26 15:19

05/26 15:19,
白邊:這麼長 不選嗎 XDDDDDDDDDD
05/26 15:19

05/26 15:41,
可借轉巫師板嗎 謝謝。
05/26 15:41

05/26 16:46,
7'7超誘人
05/26 16:46

05/26 18:19,
Mike Sweetney就是當年被公牛期待的禁區...然後也消失了~
05/26 18:19

05/26 18:20,
那個 雷霆選的sene 臂展有 7'8.5.......
05/26 18:20

05/26 18:39,
當然不可否認白邊的確身材上佔盡蠻便宜
05/26 18:39

05/26 18:39,
但一切還是要看打球內容為準
05/26 18:39

05/26 18:48,
想當年糖果人身材好體能好,終究還是個糖果人...
05/26 18:48

05/26 18:58,
糖果人不是根本就不想打籃球的嗎?
05/26 18:58

05/26 19:10,
剛才發現一個可以跟表弟比胖的球員
05/26 19:10

05/26 19:11,
Keith Gallon
05/26 19:11

05/26 19:13,
穿鞋有 6-9.5 手寬本屆最佳 10.50 也是預測第二
05/26 19:13

05/26 19:13,
輪被選到 重點是他300磅但看起來超靈活
05/26 19:13

05/26 19:15,
體脂肪 15 , 今年真的禁區人才太多 ...
05/26 19:15

05/26 19:21,
另外一個是Derrick Caracter 可以看成是表弟窮人板
05/26 19:21

05/26 19:22,
280 磅 但體指防可以控制在 12.8 % 相當驚人
05/26 19:22

05/26 19:24,
以上提的兩個人都是 二輪待選的大個 但他們的質我
05/26 19:24

05/26 19:26,
覺得都有一輪水平 誰會養的話就是賺到
05/26 19:26

05/26 20:09,
Caracter看起來好像蠻不錯的耶 會掉到二輪嗎?
05/26 20:09

05/26 20:21,
看目前資料是二輪啊
05/26 20:21

05/26 21:00,
看高光明明就是一輪料
05/26 21:00

05/26 22:51,
請給我白邊+加侖!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05/26 22:51

05/26 23:00,
Varnado 看到下面那篇就對加侖冷感了XDDD
05/26 23:00

05/26 23:12,
穿夾腳拖是神經大條還是態度有問題
05/26 23:12

05/26 23:26,
是練武奇材
05/26 23:26

05/26 23:27,
Caracter?! 今年真多好物..
05/26 23:27

05/27 00:19,
Draft Express裡面Caracter二輪第60順位...
05/27 00:19

05/27 00:21,
看高光感覺他蠻不錯的 投籃動作也很順 沒想到...
05/27 00:21

05/27 00:24,
Jerome Jordan 七呎長人235磅 也是個二輪中鋒
05/27 00:24

05/27 00:24,
看身材條件跟白邊還有alabi蠻接近的 年紀大了點
05/27 00:24

05/27 01:10,
Whiteside單純到穿夾腳拖去體測...Ford 3.0身價下滑很多...
05/27 01:10

05/27 01:18,
樓上 insider XD
05/27 01:18

05/28 18:09,
借轉活塞板 感謝 :))
05/28 18:09
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