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※ [本文轉錄自 nfsong 信箱] 作者: henrypinge (Edward) 看板: Stock 標題: [其他] 金融八卦網站zerohedge.com 有最新八卦... 時間: Fri Sep 9 23:50:52 2011 As Greece Denies, Germany Begins Greek Default Preparations http://www.zerohedge.com/news/greece-denies-germany-begins-greek-default-preparations Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government is preparing plans to shore up German banks in the event that Greece fails to meet the terms of its aid package and defaults, three coalition officials said. The emergency plan involves measures to help banks and insurers that face a possible 50 percent loss on their Greek bonds if the next tranche of Greece’s bailout is withheld, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the deliberations are being held in private. 另一篇 Market Chatter Of Greek Default Over The Weekend http://www.zerohedge.com/news/market-chatter-greek-default-over-weekend From colleague: trader friend just hit me with the following: There is “ Chatter” in the market of a Greek Default this Weekend - and their CDS is over 400 wider… Soc Gen is off 7% on exposure - German CDS more expensive than UK;s - despite the ballooning in the CDS prices for Lloyds and RBS. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- BAC上次出包之前 這個八卦網站在兩個禮拜前就有消息了 大家聽聽看 希臘一年期國債收率 97.64 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.68.55.246
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09/09 23:51, , 1F
樓下翻譯一下
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09/09 23:52, , 2F
核廢料等級債...
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超酷的捏~XDD
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以為看到我
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09/09 23:53, , 5F
希臘乾脆借錢把國債買回來算了
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09/09 23:55, , 6F
經過美銀八卦 這種消息不能視為假的啊
09/09 23:55, 6F
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09/09 23:55, , 7F
這網站很多掛，只是現在震盪很劇烈，消息時效很短
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阿鬼~你還是講中文吧.....@~@
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09/09 23:56, , 9F
這網站的掛不是蓋的，有些後來真的有實現
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09/09 23:56, , 10F
希臘要跟誰借錢啊 樓上
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09/09 23:58, , 11F
德國銀行的鬼故事~嘖嘖
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噓
09/10 00:01, , 12F
熟臘跳槽去當米粿小弟 無敵印鈔雞出動 一賠十都不用怕
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希臘這次真的要爆炸了嗎?
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希臘債務重整之時就是利空出盡之時~~
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希臘政府已經出來正式否認這個謠言
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樓上 如果要闢謠 應該是德國出來闢謠吧
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09/10 00:11, , 17F
美國的利率那麼低 跟美國銀行借錢就好了
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希臘政府現在應該發一年期公債, 然後把市場上的一年期公債
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買回來...多搞個幾次, 債務就消失了XD
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去跟日本美國借錢來買債XDD
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利率越發越高 是要怎樣消失 default才是消最快的方法
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100元的希臘一年期公債, 市場價格現在只有30元左右...
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可以買一股做紀念嗎XD
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希臘發100元公債, 拿到的錢可以在市場上買回300元公債...
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09/10 00:20, , 25F
發一次 就減少2/3的債務, 多發幾次 債務不就消失了嗎XD
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不會有人要去認購希臘現在發行的國債的
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09/10 00:21, , 27F
歐洲央行會認...希臘上個月發債, 也是歐洲央行吃下
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當然...我說多發幾次當然是開玩笑的XD
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I大太有創意了 這確實是個好方法ㄟ
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09/10 00:22, , 30F
這個時點發債發行價只會越來越低
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09/10 00:23, , 31F
發行價格都是依面額給付啊..
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09/10 00:26, , 32F
ECB官員不就是為了不幫希臘公債買單現在才大跌
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目前ECB都還是買單的....還沒談好買單的是第二階段的部分
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當然 我說的方法是開玩笑的, 如果希臘真的這樣做, 就是拿
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09/10 00:28, , 35F
ECB當冤大頭, 之後的紓困金也別想拿到了...
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09/10 00:29, , 36F
公債都一定是價平發行嗎?而且以現在利率去發只是拖臺錢
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九十幾趴那是市場上的債券的殖利率, 實際標售的利率只有20%
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左右而已...
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當然, 那是因為有歐洲央行撐腰...
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09/10 00:32, , 40F
我錯了 標售利率只有5%左右XD 歐洲央行給的就是5%
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09/10 01:50, , 41F
估希臘債的回收率還有50%，會不會太樂觀了
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09/10 06:22, , 42F
這個站很有名阿,haha :)
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請問網路上哪邊可以看到一年期的希臘債券價格呢?
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因為查到的只有彭博社提供的希臘一年期殖利率報價
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