Re: [外絮] Heat-Pacer's Physical Turns FLAGRANT

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※ 引述《PiGFAcE (被遺忘在沙灘上的腳印)》之銘言: ※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1Fl79DOs ] 作者: djviva (淡定~ 穩中求勝) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Hear-Pacer's Physical Turns FLAGRANT 時間: Wed May 23 13:14:50 2012 http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/05/22/heat-pacers-physical-turns-flagrant/ Maybe someone on the Miami bench got the memo from Pat Riley. 或許板凳上的某人拿到了萊里的小紙條 Whatever it was, the days of the Heat scoffing at the Indiana Pacers’ “tough ” tactics – mostly embodied by Danny Granger’s yapping through the first four games – ended with a thud – and an oomphs and a crunch or two – in Game 5 Tuesday night at AmericanAirlines Arena. 無論如何 那個被熱火一直嘲笑的"強硬"戰術 那個在前四場由妙麗的吵吵鬧鬧表現的戰術 在這一瞬間結束了 還爆出一些燦爛火花 Granted, Tyler Hansbrough initiated the physical stuff Tuesday in what became Miami’s 115-83 blowout victory, good for a 3-2 edge in the best-of-seven playoff series. Hansbrough smothered Dwyane Wade on a drive to the basket and opened a cut above the Miami shooting guard’s right eye, sending him to the bench for some corner work and earning Hansbrough a flagrant-1 foul. 在由漢堡開始的肢體接觸大戰最後以115-83熱火大勝坐收 在七戰四勝的系列賽中熱火以三比二領先 漢堡在依個偉德上籃的球中割傷了偉德右眼周邊 使得偉德被迫回到板凳一陣子也讓漢堡吃下了一級惡意犯規 That was at 10:23 of the second quarter. Only 41 seconds later, Miami got some payback that seemed right from the old Riley playbook (New York days especially) of smash-mouth basketball. And he is the Heat team president, after all. 那時離中場結束還有十分鐘二十三秒, 四十一秒後熱火報仇了 這種報仇方法很像當年萊里在紐約時期的硬漢籃球 當然大家都知道萊里現在是熱火的總裁 Udonis Haslem – who had suffered a similar bloody gash over his right eye in Game 4, thanks to an errant Louis Amundson elbow – saw the opening when Hansbrough got the ball on the left wing and came forward, jumping to shoot. The Heat power forward went up with two arms high and brought them down hard, way right of the ball but hard at Hansbrough’s head. Down went Hansbrough, as the Miami crowd roared. 哈斯蘭 在第四戰中因為阿忙的手肘刮傷了右眼四周 看到漢堡在左翼拿到球接進籃框正準備跳投 這個熱火的大前鋒直接跳起把兩臂往漢堡頭上一槌 漢堡在熱火群眾鼓譟中被打了下萊 At first, ref Jason Phillips seemed to indicate that Haslem was gone, the natural result of a flagrant-2 foul. But a review of the play and conversations amongst the officials produced only a flagrant-1. It was the same penalty that Hansbrough had been dealt, though the Pacers player at least went for the ball while snuffing Wade with it. 一開始裁判要把哈斯蘭判出場因為他認為那是一個二級惡意犯規 不過其他裁判會審並看了重播以後決定這是一個一級惡意犯規 這跟剛剛漢堡犯的規差不多 雖然漢堡剛剛是對球不對人 “I felt like I got hit in the face,” Hansbrough said of the foul he absorbed. Should it have been the stiffer flagrant-2? “That’s for you guys to decide.” "我覺得我被打臉了" 漢堡針對那個犯規發言 "這是個二級惡意犯規嗎?這個交給你們自己決定" The reaction within the Pacers ranks, and among media at the game, in the blogosphere and at halftime in the TNT studio was nearly unanimous: It should have been a flagrant-2 and Haslem should have been out. Instead, he stuck around and scored 10 points with six rebounds in 17 minutes of work. 在溜馬陣線,各個媒體的發言,以及當時眾多部落格甚至是半場講解時的TNT球評大家看法都是一致的 (這邊沒有提到Ptt的NBA版看法與以上不太一致,覺得是溜馬髒) 這應該是一個二級惡意犯規 且哈斯蘭應該被趕出場的, 然而呢她留在場上並且在十七分鐘內得到十分六籃板 Later, Miami coach Erik Spoelstra was asked about it before, Spoelstra said, he’d had a chance to see any replays. “We thought he was making a play on the ball. It’s a physical series. Nobody wants to make it into anything more than that,” the Heat coach said. “We have to beat them at the game of basketball. Anyhing that’s over the line, we don’t want any of that. But we have to play physical, we have to play with force. They’re doing the same thing.” 接著邁阿密總教練濕婆被問到, 她說她沒機會看到重播 "我們覺得她是想要守住那球,這是個肢體接觸很大的系列, 沒有人想要超過那個尺度" 濕婆接著說 "我們只想用籃球擊敗他們, 籃球以外的我們都不要, 但是我們會打的很強硬 我們會打的狠有力量, 因為他們也正如此的打球" Said Indiana forward David West, who had his own battered game (10 points, four rebounds) to focus on: “He just came in to deliver a hard foul. I mean, all’s fair. That’s the way I look at it.” 印第安納大前鋒大衛西, 這場打的也很爛(十分四籃板) 他提到 "哈斯蘭衝上前救是要犯那個惡性犯規的, 就是這樣, 這是我的看法" There was one more nasty foul, this one coming near the end of garbage time. Heat deep-reserve big man Dexter Pittman nailed Pacers guard Lance Stephenson with an elbow with 19.4 seconds left to earn himself a flagrant-1. It was part Andrew Bynum circa 2011 elimination, part New Orleans Saints bounty. 在最後的垃圾時間有個更爛的惡性犯規 板凳末端的屁人肘擊了溜馬控衛醜臉兒子, 在剩下19.4秒比賽結束的時候 他也得到了一個一級惡意犯規, 有點像當年拜男2011禁賽的那球 又有點像紐奧良聖徒之前的衝撞賭博事件 Stephenson, remember, is the Pacers player who made a choke gesture when LeBron James bricked a free throw earlier in the series. Pittman even appeared to wink to someone while Stephenson shot his free throws. 醜臉兒子就是那個當時在喇叭詹罰球打鐵以後比出掐脖子手勢的人 屁人在醜臉兒子罰球的時候還對著某人眨眼 “He may have broken his collarbone,” Granger told reporters. “[Pittman] looked over and saw him coming. He laid him out. And he’s a big man.” "他可能打斷他的鎖骨" 妙麗說 "屁人瞄了一眼發現他來了, 然後屁人就把他擊倒了, 而且屁人是個大個子" Now, with a day before Game 6 at Indiana, the video figures to be reviewed by the league headquarters. Will Haslem face a fine, suspension or both if his foul is upgraded to a flagrant-2? Might Pittman face additional penalties? Did the refs get Hansbrough’s right? 現在,距離第六場印第安納的比賽還有一天, NBA總部將會重新審視錄影帶 到底哈斯蘭會被罰款,禁賽還是兩者都有(如果上升到二級技術犯規的話" 屁人蕙有額外的處罰嗎? 裁判有保衛到漢堡的權益嗎? Then there was a comment by West late Thursday, when asked about the physical stuff and a hit or two he might have absorbed. “I can handle it myself,” he said. “Don’t need anybody to protect me.” That seemed a veiled jab at James and Wade, who didn’t seek their own payback. 大衛西在上禮拜四表示, 當他被問到肢體接觸以及一兩個針對他的衝撞的時候 "我可以自己解決" 大衛西接著表示 "我不用靠別人萊幫忙" 這隱晦的暗示了小皇帝和偉德不自己來, 都靠別人報仇回來 Expect to see more “bodies colliding,” as Spoelstra has been calling it. "我們預期會有更多衝撞" 熱火教練濕婆提到 -- 清晨霧一般的思念, 清新 double, 美麗 double, 捉摸不定 double... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 60.250.135.187

05/23 13:15,
神奇小紙條出現囉....
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05/23 13:15,
誰翻譯一下
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05/23 13:16,
有誠意就翻譯在貼
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05/23 13:16,
簡單的說 就是上樑不正下樑歪啦
05/23 13:16

05/23 13:16,
從總管就髒了
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05/23 13:16,
官方highlight都不剪不知道是怎樣
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05/23 13:17,
就想河蟹掉啊 LBJ再怎麼說還是史藤的寵信之一
05/23 13:17

05/23 13:17,
上300不正 下nagi歪
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05/23 13:18,
標題就錯了是怎樣....
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05/23 13:19,
Bird的確蠻髒的啦 哈哈
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05/23 13:22,
內文沒改到
05/23 13:22

05/23 13:22,
大家英文都很好的, 這篇紅字重點都不難, OK的啦
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05/23 13:23,
大意就是nagisanoff崩潰~~~~~~~~~~
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05/23 13:23,
內文標題
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05/23 13:23,
推 Bird的確蠻髒的啦 哈哈
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05/23 13:24,
looks like a flagrant 2 to me......
05/23 13:24

05/23 13:25,
簡單翻譯 : 邁阿密出狠招是遵循總管的傳統配方
05/23 13:25

05/23 13:25,
Wade 被 擊墜之後 隊長哈斯蘭立刻挺身而出
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05/23 13:25,
PITT那球太過份 但還一份回去 是應該的
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05/23 13:26,
把漢堡的頭當球 賞他一個痛快
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05/23 13:26,
你示弱了 就會被騎上去
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05/23 13:26,
第一時間 裁判想給個 2級惡性犯規 但看影片後 改1級
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05/23 13:27,
漢堡本身認為 他被打到頭了 但怎麼判他管不著
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05/23 13:28,
只準溜馬尻人 不準火尻人 好大的鄉威
05/23 13:28
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05/23 14:16, , 1F
在本板罵敵隊球員(非球迷)可以嗎
05/23 14:16, 1F

05/23 14:17, , 2F
不要用玩低級諧音或人身攻擊應該就無所謂吧
05/23 14:17, 2F

05/23 14:18, , 3F
有罵到別隊球迷嗎??跟我說一下我修一下 沒有特別要罵
05/23 14:18, 3F

05/23 14:18, , 4F
*別隊球員
05/23 14:18, 4F

05/23 14:43, , 5F
醜臉兒子XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
05/23 14:43, 5F

05/23 14:58, , 6F
真是越來越愛大衛西了!
05/23 14:58, 6F

05/23 15:02, , 7F
阿伯真男人 下場比賽討回來!!!!
05/23 15:02, 7F

05/23 15:07, , 8F
說實話我們既然要打強硬球風,別人要說甚麼就隨他們說吧
05/23 15:07, 8F

05/23 15:14, , 9F
沒跟到比賽只看highlight,只能說最後的犯規太誇張了吧
05/23 15:14, 9F

05/23 15:14, , 10F
人家硬我們就更硬 人家髒我們就更髒 把球賽拿下來就對了
05/23 15:14, 10F

05/23 15:20, , 11F
現在我們有誰在賽後主動說啥嗎?好像都是記者去問,沒有誰在
05/23 15:20, 11F

05/23 15:21, , 12F
想看幹架
05/23 15:21, 12F

05/23 15:29, , 13F
推特上放話嗆聲的吧?對方也只有Wade這小屁孩
05/23 15:29, 13F

05/23 15:49, , 14F
喇叭跟典偉有種就自己來惡意犯規 叫小弟當替死鬼真沒種
05/23 15:49, 14F

05/23 16:03, , 15F
一點王者風度都沒有
05/23 16:03, 15F

05/23 16:09, , 16F
Well,這些場外風波或許有助於點燃球員的鬥志,用更強硬的
05/23 16:09, 16F

05/23 16:11, , 17F
態度去面對G6,但這兩場其實並不是輸在這些有的沒的上
05/23 16:11, 17F

05/23 16:12, , 18F
籃板和防守,尤其是對兩巨頭之外球員的防守才是要務
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05/23 16:52, , 19F
推籃板根防守
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05/23 16:56, , 20F
不想辦法鞏固籃板跟降低二王進攻 真的很難贏
05/23 16:56, 20F

05/23 16:58, , 21F
豬臉 我1F是幫自己問 我想大罵的 -.-
05/23 16:58, 21F

05/23 17:06, , 22F
Haslem說他對球不對人 所以球應該是在漢堡臉上 其實漢
05/23 17:06, 22F

05/23 17:06, , 23F
堡是遊樂園的海狗吧
05/23 17:06, 23F

05/23 20:21, , 24F
媽的有種你就犯在阿泰的身上 看會發生什麼事
05/23 20:21, 24F

05/23 20:22, , 25F
阿泰和醜臉會衝上去打觀眾打到你們叫不敢
05/23 20:22, 25F

05/23 20:30, , 26F
就是有借有還罷了,又不是娘泡.....
05/23 20:30, 26F

05/23 21:57, , 27F
也是,漢堡犯Wade,結果是牙套來還,而Wade撞比他小隻的DC
05/23 21:57, 27F

05/23 22:51, , 28F
Wade有種就自己去敲漢堡的頭 我賭Wade沒那個膽
05/23 22:51, 28F

05/23 23:47, , 29F
他當然沒有~
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05/23 23:56, , 30F
塞口替多練練背框吧 身體這麼厚
05/23 23:56, 30F

05/23 23:57, , 31F
下一場讓塞口替守喇叭詹好了 看他守得蠻有心得的樣子
05/23 23:57, 31F
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