[又一發乳莫] portland in pursuit for granger

看板PACERS作者 (Mr.31)時間16年前 (2008/02/19 14:50), 編輯推噓38(38066)
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http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?topic=763582 Chad Ford wrote: Portland Trail Blazers The Blazers could probably leave well enough alone. The team is playing ahead of expectations, and it has a great young core. Next season, with a healthy Greg Oden, the Blazers could be a real threat in the West. But GM Kevin Pritchard has one of the itchiest fingers in the West as well as looming roster issues, and I'm told he's been among the most active GMs on the phones, trying to make something happen. His goal is to take a number of smaller assets and turn them into core players at point guard and small forward. He made a determined effort to nab Devin Harris from Dallas and also has been in hot pursuit of the Pacers' Danny Granger. He may land neither, but he is ready to give up players like Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez, Jarrett Jack and Martell Webster if the right opportunity comes up. 現在在RealGM有熱鬧討論,不論是波特蘭版還是印城版。 預計這是一個多人交易。 畢竟小葛現在的價值遠勝於綠色部分等人,又鄉民預測如果要交易小葛, 勢必要讓對方吞下莫非的約(4年),至於我們吃下拉法葉的約(2年,下季PO)。 誠心而言,就我個人立場我不希望交易小葛,畢竟他是近年選秀中最成功的案例, 也是我們一路培養長大的。 即便Sergio Rodriguez或是Jarrett Jack都是我們欠缺的PG, 尤其Sergio Rodriguez天份更是不在話下。 但是論進攻能力以及把握度來說,小葛比Travis Outlaw或是Martell Webster成熟多。 所以基於情感與現實考量,我會pass。 但是有個波特蘭鄉民po的文章讓人很擔心: roy7 i was on the oregonlive forum and some person said this "I'm a friend of KP's son Jason, and he was texting me earlier telling me how he was going through his dad's three blackberry/treos. Jay told me KP and Larry Bird are working out salary issues. I guess the deal will be finalized on Wednesday. Martel, Frye, Jack + 2 '08 picks" is this kid telling the truth,is he really friends with kps son, he said that he gurentees we get him,if he is right i love it. we keep outlaw and get granger 不要阿!! 我不想接受。 2枚08年選秀有可能是第一輪+第二輪,也可能是2枚第二輪。 -- 只需要認識我的文字 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/indypacers -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.160.77.34

02/19 14:52, , 1F
大鳥應該不可能動Danny Granger吧
02/19 14:52, 1F

02/19 14:54, , 2F
難講喔..roy7的文章讓人很擔心..
02/19 14:54, 2F

02/19 14:53, , 3F
如果確定Granger無法成為主將級球員的話,這樣換也不差
02/19 14:53, 3F

02/19 14:55, , 4F
至少陣容彈性大很多,要砍掉重練也比較容易
02/19 14:55, 4F

02/19 14:56, , 5F
波特蘭那三位..我看不出有成為主將資質..
02/19 14:56, 5F

02/19 14:57, , 6F
除非M.M交易成真..接著交易小葛..換選秀
02/19 14:57, 6F

02/19 14:57, , 7F
把2、3號位置移出一個主力走..然後靠08年選秀大換血
02/19 14:57, 7F

02/19 15:05, , 8F
好多rumor不知道相信哪篇、只好說 換了叫我
02/19 15:05, 8F

02/19 15:56, , 9F
如果有第一輪選秀.......可是我想要小葛阿~~
02/19 15:56, 9F

02/19 15:56, , 10F
小葛要是走了,隊上就只有佛爺一個人會防守了= =
02/19 15:56, 10F

02/19 17:14, , 11F
把小葛改成小威吧~我覺得小威在小葛後面始終沒有機會表現說
02/19 17:14, 11F

02/19 17:22, , 12F
我也想改成丟小威..但對方應該就不會答應
02/19 17:22, 12F

02/19 17:23, , 13F
所以這交易我選擇Pass.小葛是頭牌!!
02/19 17:23, 13F

02/19 17:23, , 14F
小威還沒有打出身價來,畢竟有小葛小鄧在他身前,他的上場時
02/19 17:23, 14F

02/19 17:24, , 15F
間永遠是不足的
02/19 17:24, 15F

02/19 17:32, , 16F
不過老實說,拓荒者的陣容已經很不錯啦,幹麻還要多做交易呢?
02/19 17:32, 16F

02/19 18:00, , 17F
如果小葛改成小鄧呢?!! 一樣是波特蘭欠缺的SF..
02/19 18:00, 17F

02/19 18:00, , 18F
我會按下按鈕..成交..小葛未來性比小鄧好..
02/19 18:00, 18F

02/19 18:05, , 19F
情感問題…不想去想小葛走T.T
02/19 18:05, 19F

02/19 18:17, , 20F
拓荒者看中小葛主要是他是個不錯的防守者,他們陣容中已經有
02/19 18:17, 20F

02/19 18:19, , 21F
相當會得分的球員,就差一把能成為大鎖的球員
02/19 18:19, 21F

02/19 18:21, , 22F
所以也因為這一點..我拒絕交易小葛
02/19 18:21, 22F

02/19 18:21, , 23F
加上小葛跟明年的Rudy還有Greg Oden..波特蘭未來10年
02/19 18:21, 23F

02/19 18:23, , 24F
不用擔心補強..但交易掉小葛的我們就....
02/19 18:23, 24F

02/19 18:26, , 25F
話說回來,衝著Obie和Harter的面前,大鳥也不會腦殘到交易小
02/19 18:26, 25F

02/19 18:27, , 26F
葛的,畢竟當年道長就是因為綠衫軍交易出防守擅長的球員而跟
02/19 18:27, 26F

02/19 18:28, , 27F
高層請辭的說
02/19 18:28, 27F

02/19 18:29, , 28F
NO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
02/19 18:29, 28F

02/19 19:29, , 29F
現在的乳莫是波特蘭想加入上面跟灰熊的交易..變成3方
02/19 19:29, 29F

02/19 19:55, , 30F
我不知道該怎樣解釋,不過第二個那個鄉民po的確是假消息!
02/19 19:55, 30F

02/19 19:55, , 31F
第一個是ESPN出來的沒錯,第二個是某網友開玩笑然後就被別
02/19 19:55, 31F

02/19 19:56, , 32F
人當真了...基本上拓荒者今年不做交易的機率頗大,所以乳摸
02/19 19:56, 32F

02/19 19:56, , 33F
還是看看就好XD
02/19 19:56, 33F

02/19 20:51, , 34F
我反而贊成交易小葛
02/19 20:51, 34F

02/19 20:52, , 35F
Outlaw未來性並不比小葛差,甚至還勝過
02/19 20:52, 35F

02/19 21:04, , 36F
換到outlaw的可能性...?
02/19 21:04, 36F

02/19 21:04, , 37F
其實我覺得Outlaw只有比小葛更往禁區強攻而已,外線普普
02/19 21:04, 37F

02/19 21:06, , 38F
而且人家Outlaw和J.Jones是人家板凳上的暴徒雙前鋒說
02/19 21:06, 38F

02/19 21:06, , 39F
都有小威了,不認為還需要outlaw,比體能,小威也很好
02/19 21:06, 39F
還有 25 則推文
02/20 14:28, , 65F
把選秀權扔出去叫獲利?
02/20 14:28, 65F

02/20 14:51, , 66F
都是溜馬迷嘛~有話可以好好講啦~
02/20 14:51, 66F

02/20 15:38, , 67F
對不起,有點激動,爬了兩天的realgm論壇,不管是Pacers
02/20 15:38, 67F

02/20 15:39, , 68F
還是Blazers的都有看,丟Granger收outlaw還認為是溜馬
02/20 15:39, 68F

02/20 15:40, , 69F
獲利的,我還真的沒看過,對於創見實在忍不住
02/20 15:40, 69F

02/20 15:44, , 70F
上面講的獲利是一對一換
02/20 15:44, 70F

02/20 16:10, , 71F
小葛打爛又不是沒看過,穩定性不夠
02/20 16:10, 71F

02/20 16:13, , 72F
小毆打好的時候,我就說要逢高賣出
02/20 16:13, 72F

02/20 16:13, , 73F
一堆人反對我,結果,還不是到了表現爛,就要交易
02/20 16:13, 73F

02/20 16:19, , 74F
布瑟當初有人說爛約,後來打好不就變好約
02/20 16:19, 74F

02/20 16:29, , 75F
outlaw關鍵時刻可以跳出來的人,小葛能嗎
02/20 16:29, 75F

02/20 16:30, , 76F
以前都是溜馬出品 品質保證的 怎現在變成好像一堆地雷..=_=
02/20 16:30, 76F

02/20 16:31, , 77F
我以前也是挺小葛,自從看了比賽
02/20 16:31, 77F

02/20 16:31, , 78F
小葛天份已經到頂了
02/20 16:31, 78F

02/20 17:11, , 79F
harrington/o'bryant/pietrus/10mill TE 換小歐
02/20 17:11, 79F

02/20 17:12, , 80F
10mill TE拿來換miller
02/20 17:12, 80F

02/20 17:13, , 81F
ESPN剛出來的
02/20 17:13, 81F

02/20 17:14, , 82F
要是這樣我覺得有賺
02/20 17:14, 82F

02/20 17:20, , 83F
小歐能快脫手就脫吧
02/20 17:20, 83F

02/20 17:28, , 84F
哈寶應該覺得很賭爛 同一隊穿第三次衣服了XD
02/20 17:28, 84F

02/20 18:22, , 85F
結果來沒多久被拿去跟莫大打包!XD
02/20 18:22, 85F

02/20 18:23, , 86F
問題是小歐本季還能打嗎? 如果本季打不了勇士現在換
02/20 18:23, 86F

02/20 18:23, , 87F
也沒用啊
02/20 18:23, 87F

02/20 23:22, , 88F
莫名其妙,誰場場高潮,不會打爛,outlaw就很穩定、場場
02/20 23:22, 88F

02/20 23:23, , 89F
跳出來嗎?我怎麼覺得你在講的那個叫做Roy,不叫outlaw
02/20 23:23, 89F

02/20 23:25, , 90F
你先去統計一下關鍵球數據再來評斷outlaw比較好,記住
02/20 23:25, 90F

02/20 23:26, , 91F
先把何謂關鍵球定義出來,在用量化統計你所謂的關鍵球
02/20 23:26, 91F

02/20 23:27, , 92F
數量有多少,不要溜馬比賽看多了,失敗球看多了,拓荒者
02/20 23:27, 92F

02/20 23:27, , 93F
比賽沒看幾場,看幾球outlaw投進去,或是Highlight多看
02/20 23:27, 93F

02/20 23:28, , 94F
幾球了,就在那裡印象派的鬼扯
02/20 23:28, 94F

02/20 23:30, , 95F
小歐有傷痛問題,我也支持好表現就要丟,但是小葛有什麼
02/20 23:30, 95F

02/20 23:30, , 96F
問題?沒傷沒痛又年輕又聽話,這種球員你逢高賣個頭阿
02/20 23:30, 96F

02/20 23:32, , 97F
換來outlaw你又這麼慧眼獨具,有什麼把握他會無傷無痛
02/20 23:32, 97F

02/20 23:32, , 98F
又聽話又「潛力無限」?這根本就是沒頭沒腦的亂賭一通
02/20 23:32, 98F

02/20 23:33, , 99F
只為了改變而改變,毫無道理跟邏輯可言
02/20 23:33, 99F

02/20 23:43, , 100F
Outlaw雖然比小葛年輕一歲,但是打了比小葛多打兩年
02/20 23:43, 100F

02/20 23:44, , 101F
但說實在的,Outlaw是屬於猛張飛型的球員,很敢打,但是身體
02/20 23:44, 101F

02/20 23:44, , 102F
太過單薄,體能很好,但是射程沒有小葛遠,比小葛更敢打,但是
02/20 23:44, 102F

02/20 23:45, , 103F
我認為小葛的天份還沒用完,他缺乏的是信心而已,身體條件比
02/20 23:45, 103F

02/20 23:46, , 104F
Outlaw更好,打法也比較全面
02/20 23:46, 104F
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