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看板Orl-Magic作者 (leon)時間15年前 (2009/07/11 11:12), 編輯推噓17(17035)
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The Orlando Magic's four-year deal with unrestricted free agent power forward Brandon Bass became official Friday night. An NBA source confirmed to Sentinel staff writer Tania Ganguli that the agreement is worth $18 million over four years, though the deal also allows Bass to opt out of the contract and become a free agent after the 2011-12 season. "Brandon has been a very efficient, very effective player for both Dallas and New Orleans," Orlando Magic Coach Stan Van Gundy told the Sentinel moments ago. "He's a guy who can score. He can make a 17-foot jumper. He can score in the low post. He can put it on the floor and take you to the basket, and he’s rebounded the ball well. I think he’s another key ingredient to what’s shaping up as a very good frontcourt.” Asked whether he can envision a scenario in which Bass would start games at power forward and Lewis would start at small forward, Van Gundy said “it certainly could happen.” Van Gundy said: "One of the things I think [General Manager] Otis [Smith] has done in the past and is doing again is giving us a roster not only with talent but one with versatility where we will have a lot of options in terms of the kind of lineups we put on the floor." 這篇很像說 正式簽下 Bass 有人問范老爹說他是否會先發 范老爹說 也是有可能 Lewis 去打三號 他打四號 Nelson VC Lewis Bass DH 候補還有 老強 JJ Pietrus 安德森 感覺還可以拉~ 另外一篇 As for what this means for Marcin Gortat. The Magic center, at least for the next five days, had this to say about the deal (entering the caveat that he hasn't heard it's true yet, but if it is...) "Doesn't look like they're going to pay all this money for a backup guy who plays only 10 minutes a game. Just gotta get ready for probably trip to Dallas." Gortat kind of contradicted that to start off, though. He said the things he was hearing made him think the Magic would match Dallas's 5-year, $34 million offer sheet. We asked him that twice and both times he said, that's what it seems like. Gortat insisted he wouldn't be disappointed if Orlando matched the offer, but going to Dallas would mean a lot more playing time for him. He also knows that if the Magic match the offer, that doesn't have to mean he'll be in Orlando long-term. Smith said the two deals don't necessarily have to do with each other. He also said he's figured out what he's going to do, but said he was "still working on a few other things." "Until those things transpire, it’s a little bit premature for us to get into what we’re going to do and what we’re not going to do," Smith said. The Magic are still looking for a wing and a third point guard 前面大約有說到 為了上場大約10分鐘的人 然後跟進這麼多錢!? 但後面說到 鍋貼的簽約跟Bass是兩碼子的事情 鍋貼說 他不會感到失望假如魔術跟進合約 但在小牛他可以比較多出場的機會 而且還說到 假如魔術跟進合約 也不代表他會待在長期待奧然多(這是啥意思=''=) Smith 還會繼續軍備競賽 另外 魔術還有800~900萬的TE 這個TE是不能交易的 只能當包裹 有效期是一年 其實留著也沒啥不好 明年2010年 大物超多 世事難料 這是原文 The Magic have one calendar year to use the theoretical $8 or $9 million, and they can't trade the exception by itself, it has to be packaged with something. That doesn't have to be another player necessarily. 可以指證一下 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.45.101.177

07/11 11:13, , 1F
什麼是不能交易,只能當包裹? TE是只能交易不能當現金吧?
07/11 11:13, 1F

07/11 11:13, , 2F
TE不能交易?! @@?
07/11 11:13, 2F

07/11 11:14, , 3F
就是TE本身不能交易只能拿然當交易的包裹
07/11 11:14, 3F
※ 編輯: y1027330 來自: 114.45.101.177 (07/11 11:15)

07/11 11:24, , 4F
所以郭貼不想留嗎
07/11 11:24, 4F

07/11 11:26, , 5F
管他想不想留= =重點是我們要不要跟進 跟進他就得留= =
07/11 11:26, 5F

07/11 11:51, , 6F
拜託跟吧 我很難想像Howard如果犯規麻煩 我們內線會被怎麼
07/11 11:51, 6F

07/11 11:51, , 7F
蹂躪 鍋貼效率很高的 先留下來以後拿來交易也行阿
07/11 11:51, 7F

07/11 12:36, , 8F
跟吧 魔獸不可能場場扛48分鐘阿
07/11 12:36, 8F

07/11 12:46, , 9F
還是不太理解不能交易只能當包裹的意思,TE不是不能與其
07/11 12:46, 9F

07/11 12:46, , 10F
他合併用嗎?
07/11 12:46, 10F

07/11 12:49, , 11F
還有Smith如果肯繼續再補強那是好消息....
07/11 12:49, 11F

07/11 12:49, , 12F
所謂的they can't trade the exception by itself是說,你不
07/11 12:49, 12F

07/11 12:50, , 13F
可以直接只拿TE就去換球員,但是可以加些東西,不一定要是球
07/11 12:50, 13F

07/11 12:50, , 14F
員,比方說:選秀權,交易選秀權的權利,或甚至是選來而還沒簽
07/11 12:50, 14F

07/11 12:51, , 15F
約球員的簽約權利,等等
07/11 12:51, 15F

07/11 13:25, , 16F
簡單的說,就是 TE<---------->球員 這是不被允許的
07/11 13:25, 16F

07/11 13:26, , 17F
如果改成 TE + xxx <---------------->球員 這就OK了~
07/11 13:26, 17F

07/11 13:26, , 18F
簡單說就是TE只能當配菜
07/11 13:26, 18F

07/11 14:30, , 19F
TE不能和其他球員搭配交易 但是可以搭配選秀權之類的交易
07/11 14:30, 19F

07/11 14:31, , 20F
不過怪了 魔術和暴龍的先簽後換不就是TE換火槍嗎
07/11 14:31, 20F

07/11 14:31, , 21F
有附帶其他的嗎@@
07/11 14:31, 21F

07/11 14:43, , 22F
TE除了被這樣交易來交易去還可以幹嘛 可以換現金嗎
07/11 14:43, 22F

07/11 14:56, , 23F
TE是不能折現金的空白支票
07/11 14:56, 23F

07/11 14:56, , 24F
不行 就是拿來交易的
07/11 14:56, 24F

07/11 14:58, , 25F
TE不能+球員使用 幾乎都是配選秀權去換球員
07/11 14:58, 25F

07/11 14:58, , 26F
所以直接說TE換球員其實也沒什麼不對 因為選秀可以保護
07/11 14:58, 26F

07/11 14:59, , 27F
不是不一定要球員 而是一定不能是球員
07/11 14:59, 27F

07/11 15:00, , 28F
TE才是主菜 選秀權才是配菜 有保護不一定拿得到
07/11 15:00, 28F

07/11 15:01, , 29F
對了 TE也不能搭配其他TE來用
07/11 15:01, 29F

07/11 15:02, , 30F
這樣看起來TE根本就很難用啊 為什麼他那麼愛...
07/11 15:02, 30F

07/11 15:02, , 31F
很難用 但他是想說有總比沒有好吧
07/11 15:02, 31F

07/11 15:02, , 32F
有的時候 在某些很大筆的多人交易中 TE可以起到意想不到的
07/11 15:02, 32F

07/11 15:03, , 33F
難用歸難用 真的有一天要用到還是有嘛 放著不用也沒差
07/11 15:03, 33F

07/11 15:03, , 34F
平衡薪資作用 因為TE可以拆開來 所以在多人交易中拿來平衡
07/11 15:03, 34F

07/11 15:03, , 35F
是有用處的
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07/11 15:04, , 36F
可以參考多年前火箭和魔術拿小法換T-Mac的交易 那筆就用到
07/11 15:04, 36F

07/11 15:04, , 37F
TE不能當包裹使用 所以幾乎很難拿來平衡交易 不常發生
07/11 15:04, 37F

07/11 15:04, , 38F
了兩次TE(印象中拉)
07/11 15:04, 38F

07/11 15:05, , 39F
我說的平衡薪資當然不是直接丟在該筆多人交易中 而是將交易
07/11 15:05, 39F

07/11 15:05, , 40F
上面3830那一篇算是一個例子 TE的確不好用就是了
07/11 15:05, 40F

07/11 15:05, , 41F
拆成多個步驟來做 其中有個步驟就能用TE去完成
07/11 15:05, 41F

07/11 15:06, , 42F
就像ph大那篇說的那樣 將交易拆成兩三個步驟 這時TE就能用
07/11 15:06, 42F

07/11 15:20, , 43F
鍋貼若留下來 替補五人組感覺也頗威的!
07/11 15:20, 43F

07/11 17:24, , 44F
再來幾個好手吧,真期待啊.....
07/11 17:24, 44F

07/11 18:12, , 45F
一定要MATCH的啦 希望鍋貼不要為了想離開 就....
07/11 18:12, 45F

07/11 18:28, , 46F
TE<->直接換球員是正確的 TE+球員forxxx 才是不被允許
07/11 18:28, 46F

07/11 18:42, , 47F
通常不會有球隊只為了省錢把球員直接換TE而已,還是會加個選
07/11 18:42, 47F

07/11 18:43, , 48F
秀權之類的~
07/11 18:43, 48F

07/11 19:25, , 49F
暴龍魔術這筆先簽後換不就是了@@
07/11 19:25, 49F

07/11 20:10, , 50F
好亂喔 囧 越搞越混了Orz
07/11 20:10, 50F

07/11 22:18, , 51F
反正就記得 TE只能單換一個球員 或拿來搭配選秀(通常作法)
07/11 22:18, 51F

07/11 22:19, , 52F
它可以拆開用 不能拿來配著用 也不能兩筆TE搞一起用
07/11 22:19, 52F
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