[洋基] Five days later, Joba ready for more 'Rules'

看板NY-Yankees作者 (瀟湘/マモン)時間14年前 (2009/09/05 08:42), 編輯推噓16(17推 1噓 39→)
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Five days later, Joba ready for more 'Rules' Joba Chamberlain is on the mound tonight for the Yankees against Roy Halladay, though we don't know exactly for how long. Seeing as that he went for three innings last time out against the White Sox and threw 35 pitches, it's safe to say that the Yankees would be OK with him throwing about four innings and 50 pitches. The pitches really aren't the main concern - it's the innings, as the Yankees figure it all averages out over the long run. And yes, there's a point to this post. It seems like every time we get around to Chamberlain in the rotation, there's a segment of the fan base that becomes outraged (and then floods my e-mail box). That's OK, that's what it's there for. But I'll reply in bulk and say once again, to recap, this is all about protecting the Yankees' investment for the future in Chamberlain. He's not a disposable type pitcher - if Chamberlain hurts his arm and goes the route of the Mets' Big Three in 1996 (the example Chamberlain keeps bringing up), it'll be a significant setback. With his body type and injury history, it's safe to say that there is a serious risk involved with Chamberlain. But this is Year 3 of the Joba Rules and slowly but surely, they are easing off the training wheels, and next year should be a pretty full season for him with 180 or so innings. The thinking was that 160 innings of him as a MLB starter in 2009 would be more helpful than zero. And with a 7 1/2 game lead in the American League East, the Yankees have the luxury to play with such things. If Chamberlain goes four innings tonight and the Yankees lose, it's not going to be the end of the world. 來源:The official Facebook home of the New York Yankees http://www.facebook.com/Yankees?ref=mf -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.47.69.162
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09/05 08:43, , 1F
160 科科 按照某大的說法 明年會開TJ嗎?
09/05 08:43, 1F
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09/05 08:46, , 2F
會不會開TJ沒人知道，總之這樣是保護Joba，有問題嗎？
09/05 08:46, 2F
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09/05 08:48, , 3F
我看是某些鄉民要去開腦袋改造手術,改得聰明點
09/05 08:48, 3F
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09/05 08:51, , 4F
要是超過一點局數 就要說會開TJ 我倒感覺你比較有問題
09/05 08:51, 4F
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09/05 08:53, , 5F
誰可以告訴我三樓從box那篇講呷飽 就一直邱在邱3small？
09/05 08:53, 5F
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09/05 08:53, , 6F
150跟170算一點嗎？ 而且今天的保護就是希望能小心點加到160
09/05 08:53, 6F
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09/05 08:55, , 7F
Joba Rule都說多久了？ 又有多少前車之鑒？
09/05 08:55, 7F
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09/05 09:06, , 8F
Baker:我也只加一點阿,誰知道Prior跟Woods這麼不耐操
09/05 09:06, 8F
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09/05 09:08, , 9F
Torre:Proctor的手爛掉不是因為我操他,是他不會保護自己
09/05 09:08, 9F
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09/05 09:09, , 10F
老實講,我也不知道一堆鄉民啥時對第四號先發要求這麼高的
09/05 09:09, 10F
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09/05 09:09, , 11F
看看別隊的第四號先發就知道,Joba還挺不錯的.
09/05 09:09, 11F
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09/05 10:03, , 12F
樓上這麼說就不對了...這裡是洋基隊...專收公仔
09/05 10:03, 12F
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09/05 10:04, , 13F
不過以第一年完整先發的joba確實是很好（我矛盾了）
09/05 10:04, 13F
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09/05 10:05, , 14F
洋基前三號都不錯啊，只差在二號有點勞賽
09/05 10:05, 14F
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09/05 10:07, , 15F
收公仔跟自己養沒衝突啊，我們好歹還有3個待了10年的農作物
09/05 10:07, 15F
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09/05 10:22, , 16F
差在台灣之光勞賽才對吧 XDD
09/05 10:22, 16F
噓
09/05 10:34, , 17F
現在是變成臉書洋基版了?
09/05 10:34, 17F
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09/05 10:37, , 18F
只有我想要張小胖回牛棚嗎= =先上場丟的中繼....
09/05 10:37, 18F
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09/05 10:37, , 19F
投成這樣季後賽還不如讓老派當三號
09/05 10:37, 19F
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09/05 10:40, , 20F
沒有人說老派不是三號吧
09/05 10:40, 20F
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09/05 10:41, , 21F
要保護就勝下來的場次讓Mitre Guidin先發就好..
09/05 10:41, 21F
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09/05 10:43, , 22F
投這麼少的局數還先發是要幹啥?為了季後賽當SP用?
09/05 10:43, 22F
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09/05 11:11, , 23F
Mitre Guidin 跟 Joba 比你會想在季後賽看到誰
09/05 11:11, 23F
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09/05 11:24, , 24F
Mitre 不是有一場佳作嗎XDDD
09/05 11:24, 24F
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09/05 11:28, , 25F
用到4號的機會很小..這樣的話拿來當RP我覺得還比較好...
09/05 11:28, 25F
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09/05 11:33, , 26F
長期來說的話Joba當然是SP,現在考慮到近況跟局數限制
09/05 11:33, 26F
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09/05 11:34, , 27F
當RP比較好
09/05 11:34, 27F
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09/05 11:35, , 28F
^今年剩下來的出賽
09/05 11:35, 28F
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09/05 11:42, , 29F
投這麼少的局數還先發是要幹啥+1
09/05 11:42, 29F
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09/05 12:03, , 30F
要比佳作的話Joba還比較多,當然鄉民的視力問題蠻大的.
09/05 12:03, 30F
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09/05 12:06, , 31F
光下半季喬巴的佳作就不只1場了…
09/05 12:06, 31F
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09/05 12:07, , 32F
而且我一直覺得,在戰績許可之下,給球隊的潛力新秀去磨練是
09/05 12:07, 32F
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09/05 12:08, , 33F
合理的作法,他不就是因為狀況不穩才需要調整嗎??
09/05 12:08, 33F
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09/05 12:09, , 34F
把這些局數給Mitre或Gaudin有何意義??他們只是墊檔的啊.
09/05 12:09, 34F
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09/05 12:11, , 35F
有阿..你繼後賽要把他當RP用的話,現在最好趁有餘裕時測試
09/05 12:11, 35F
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09/05 12:12, , 36F
問題是,目前不需要,MO,Hughes都夠猛,其他的牛也有一定實力
09/05 12:12, 36F
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09/05 12:12, , 37F
如果當SP用的話到底是要他投幾局..
09/05 12:12, 37F
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09/05 12:13, , 38F
況且,sp的問題本就比rp重要,這顯然是常識.
09/05 12:13, 38F
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09/05 12:13, , 39F
開季時一般預測是140~150,現在快上修到160~170了...
09/05 12:13, 39F
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09/05 12:13, , 40F
投幾局就視當時的狀況來決定,反正現在還在調整.
09/05 12:13, 40F
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09/05 12:17, , 41F
投幾局看情況調整那要joba rule幹嘛,這叫沒rule吧...
09/05 12:17, 41F
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09/05 12:28, , 42F
季後賽的話,本來就沒rule可言,打不好就沒下一場的狀況
09/05 12:28, 42F
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09/05 12:28, , 43F
所謂的rule,也只是季賽有餘裕的時候在用而已.
09/05 12:28, 43F
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09/05 12:52, , 44F
說好的Verducci Effect勒
09/05 12:52, 44F
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09/05 12:58, , 45F
現在一場投個50+-球,play-off真感讓他投到100-_-
09/05 12:58, 45F
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09/05 13:59, , 46F
不難..把ACE留在張後面接手..雙先發?
09/05 13:59, 46F
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09/05 14:42, , 47F
ace是個好中繼應該不能動 洋基應該積極的簽一些sp...用
09/05 14:42, 47F
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09/05 16:15, , 48F
用到四號機會怎麼會很小有神人可以解答嗎
09/05 16:15, 48F
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09/05 16:15, , 49F
只要不是LDS就再見 有每隊都中三日連發嗎
09/05 16:15, 49F
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09/05 16:16, , 50F
Penny跟Pedro...
09/05 16:16, 50F
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09/05 16:38, , 51F
應該修正說一系列最多只會用一次
09/05 16:38, 51F
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09/05 16:41, , 52F
洋基今年簽兩隻大尾的sp,居然還有人認為不夠積極呢(攤手).
09/05 16:41, 52F
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09/05 16:43, , 53F
大概得五隻都綁cy等級的sp,鄉民才會認為洋基夠積極.
09/05 16:43, 53F
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09/05 17:56, , 54F
阿就有人認為payroll無上限,農場任你換(?
09/05 17:56, 54F
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09/05 19:07, , 55F
明年有便宜的陳偉殷喔~~~~
09/05 19:07, 55F
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09/05 20:24, , 56F
Penny高層的確想簽啊...但MLBTR說他比較想回國聯
09/05 20:24, 56F
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12/28 13:30, 5年前 , 57F
明年有便宜的陳偉殷喔~ https://noxiv.com
12/28 13:30, 57F
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