[洋基] Note to Cash: Hold off on Cameron deal

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http://0rz.tw/e259l Posted by: Joseph P. in Hot Stove League The Winter Meetings may have passed, but it’s still relatively early in the baseball off-season. As you can see on our sidebar widget, there are still two months until pitchers and catchers report (the biggest day of the year on which nothing happens). That’s plenty of time for the Yankees to sift through their options and decide on the best course of action for the 2009 team. We’ve been debating this hotly in the comments, and aside from a few overzealous folks, most everyone is making cogent points. I explained on Friday night that I think there are two paths the Yankees can take right now. First is to create a more balanced team. This would entail bringing back Andy Pettitte to fill the fourth/fifth slot in the rotation and trading for Mike Cameron. The lineup would then be filled with solid, established players (and a high-ceiling guy in Cano), and the rotation would be solid one through five. It would give the Yankees the depth to deal with an injury or two. It would give the team even more of a veteran presence. The other path the Yankees can explore is an all-in push for 2009. By signing CC and A.J., the Yankees have begun such a movement. Adding a big bat like Manny Ramirez or Mark Teixeira (as we’ve heard from our favorite rumormonger) or even Adam Dunn would re-ignite the talks of a 1,000-run offense. The difference, of course, is that this year the Yanks have the pitching to match it. The lineup would be disgusting one through nine, and the rotation would still feature a top four you can place against any team in the league. At this point, adding Cameron might hamper the team’s ability to sign one of the boppers on the market. While some cite the $88 million that came off the payroll after last season, that’s not the whole story. Some players are due raises, and others weren’t on the opening-day payroll (Marte, Nady). So let's go through the team’s current commitments (plus arbitration estimates): 2009 Payroll Player Sal. A-Rod $32 Sabathia $23 * Jeter $20 Burnett $16.5 * Mo $15 Jorge $13.1 Damon $13 Matsui $13 Swisher $5.3 Wang $5 ** Marte $3.75 Nady $6 ** Cano $6 Molina $1 Bruney $1.2 ** * AAV of contract ** Arb estimate That totals $173.85 million in committed salaries for 15 players. That leaves 10 more players, likely for the most part under the reserve clause, which will keep their salaries in the $400 to $500,000 range. Even at the high end, $5 million for those 10 players, that leaves the Yanks with a $183.85 million opening day payroll. Notice how it’s right around the team’s stated goal of $180 million. Still, we know the Yankees. They could find a way to squeeze another contract in there. Perhaps they backload A.J.’s deal, knowing that $26 million comes off the books from Damon and Matsui after the year. That would give them the flexibility now to add a bat and still keep the payroll under $200 million. If you add Andy Pettitte, it’s almost impossible to add a bat without exceeding 2008’s payroll. Same with Mike Cameron. So the choices going forward: 1) Sign Pettitte. Sign bat. Screw payroll. 2) Sign Pettitte. Trade for Cameron. Go into season like that. 3) Let Pettitte retire or go elsewhere. Let Milwaukee pay Cameron’s salary. Sign big bat. Without choosing one over the rest (though No. 1 is clearly the best option), this all leads me to believe that the Yankees should hold off on this Cameron deal. Wait until the rest of the bats are off the market so you can see where everyone else stands. Some might say that this would drive up the price for Cameron. Not so. At least, I don’t think it will. What other teams would be interested in a 35-year-old CFer making $10 million? That list begins and ends with the Yankees. If the Yankees do add Teixeira or Manny or Dunn, they won’t have room for Cameron anyway. All three make the outfield rather crowded — Tex by moving Swisher there, Manny and Dunn because they play there. True, the later two could DH, but what about Hideki? You can’t blindly rely on him to play in 120, 130 games, but you also can’t relegate him to bench duty. He’s too good when healthy, and is making too much money. Mike Cameron will still be available in January. The Yankees might as well wait on that and see if they can better improve the team with a better bat. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.160.47.131

12/15 16:53, , 1F
有道理 先把TEIX搞定吧
12/15 16:53, 1F

12/15 17:07, , 2F
TEIX用25M/Y簽下來的話就快破200M了
12/15 17:07, 2F

12/15 17:11, , 3F
不是快破 是已經破了 內文已經算到184M了
12/15 17:11, 3F

12/15 17:15, , 4F
破了世界會毀滅嗎.....
12/15 17:15, 4F

12/15 17:18, , 5F
不會
12/15 17:18, 5F

12/15 17:24, , 6F
那就讓他破吧!!
12/15 17:24, 6F

12/15 17:27, , 7F
200M/8y 簽下去吧
12/15 17:27, 7F

12/15 17:35, , 8F
搶鐵效果比較好 Manny回紅襪可能性低 火力一來一往有差
12/15 17:35, 8F

12/15 17:38, , 9F
鐵爺去天使 洋基簽咩尼 這樣也行
12/15 17:38, 9F

12/15 17:41, , 10F
Manny是不可能回紅襪的 連可能性都不存在
12/15 17:41, 10F

12/15 17:44, , 11F
反正不能給紅襪搶到鐵爺 = =+
12/15 17:44, 11F

12/15 17:50, , 12F
AROD真貴..
12/15 17:50, 12F

12/15 17:53, , 13F
arod貴得有道理啊:p
12/15 17:53, 13F

12/15 18:44, , 14F
AROD是Pujols 的2倍 32M:16M
12/15 18:44, 14F

12/15 18:49, , 15F
agent 的操作真的有差, Pujols 簽那個約很虧
12/15 18:49, 15F

12/15 18:50, , 16F
但是AROD的守備位置是Pujols的3倍啊 3B:1B
12/15 18:50, 16F

12/15 19:02, , 17F
Pujols在第一次薪資仲裁簽的約 那時候是很頂級的
12/15 19:02, 17F

12/15 19:03, , 18F
pujols開始拿千萬的時候 A-Rod還在拿百萬而已 不過隔年就..
12/15 19:03, 18F

12/15 19:03, , 19F
但是人家都有 opt-out 啊, 幾年過去行使一下就超車了
12/15 19:03, 19F

12/15 19:05, , 20F
只要挑對時間使用, 球團根本沒本錢不加薪留人
12/15 19:05, 20F

12/15 19:07, , 21F
鐵爺跟A-Rod一樣 在薪資仲裁時選擇不簽長約 等到FA狂撈
12/15 19:07, 21F

12/16 01:08, , 22F
Pujols上MLB的那年A-Rod已經簽那張252M了
12/16 01:08, 22F

12/17 21:59, , 23F
好想噓元PO
12/17 21:59, 23F

12/18 00:19, , 24F
科科
12/18 00:19, 24F
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