Re: [新聞] Not a Rookie: Phil Hughes

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: YGJHSU (杰) 看板: MLB 標題: [翻譯]Not a rookie: Phil Hughes 時間: Sat Apr 26 14:25:13 2008 by John Sickels on Apr 25, 2008 5:04 PM EDT http://www.minorleagueball.com/ : Lots of people have been asking me about Phil Hughes, so here goes. First the : brief career rundown. 很多人都向我詢問Phil Hughes,所以我用這篇文章來討論他。先來看看他的生涯成績。 : Hughes was drafted in the first round in 2004, 23rd overall, out of high : school in Santa Ana, California. He threw five shutout innings in a : three-game trial in the Gulf Coast League. Scouts liked his projectability : and his command of his low-90s fastball, along with a strong slider and : changeup. I gave him a Grade B in the '05 book, worried about reports : regarding a sore elbow. Hughes是在2004年選秀會上第一輪23順位被選走,當時他是加州Santa Ana的高中投手。 他在Gulf Coast League的三場試驗性質比賽中投出5局無失分的表現。不少球探喜歡 Hughes的發展性,同時也對他對於low-90的速球控制感到滿意。而Hughes除了這些之外, 還有強力滑球跟變速球。考慮到有些球探報告中提到手肘痠痛的問題,我在05年給他 B的評價。 : Shoulder trouble limited him to 16 starts in 2005, but they went well, : including a 1.97 ERA and a 72/16 K/BB in 69 innings in the Sally League, and : a 21/4 K/BB in 18 innings in the Florida State League. He improved his : curveball dramatically and began using it more than the slider, to reduce : stress on his arm. I raised his grade to B+ in the '06 book, but was worried : about injury risk. 他在05年受制於肩膀問題只先發出賽了16場,但依然表現精彩: 防禦率1.97,在Sally League出賽69局交出 72/16 K/BB,在Florida State League出賽18局投出21/4 K/BB。 在這個階段,Hughes的曲球戲劇性的產生大幅度進步,也讓他使用曲球的比例開始超過 滑球。這降低了他手臂所承受的負擔。在06年我把他的評價提升到B+,但仍然憂心於受傷 的風險。 : Hughes threw 146 innings in 2006, split between five starts for Tampa and 21 : for Double-A Trenton, where he went 10-3, 2.25 with a 138/32 K/BB in 116 : innings. His velocity spiked into the 93-95 range, hitting 96 at times. The : curveball also got better. Scouts were somewhat concerned about his erratic : changeup, but overall it was hard to knock his performance. I gave him a : straight Grade A, now considering that his injury risk was no higher than any : other pitcher his age. Hughes在06年總共在小聯盟投了146局,其中5場替A+ Tampa先發,另外21場則是2A的 Trenton,在那裏他在116局裡10勝3敗、防禦率2.25,138/22 的K/BB。他的速球落在93 到95MPH之間,有時候甚至可以投到96MPH,曲球也進步了。球探有點擔心他不穩的變速球 但是那根本無損於Hughes的表現。我當時直接給他A的評價,並且認為他受傷的風險不會比 同年齡的其他投手來的高。 : As you know, Hughes did have some durability troubles last year, Thankfully : it was his hamstrings and a bum ankle that were the problems, not his elbow : or shoulder. He held his own in major league action, very commendable given : his age and the pressure of the New York environment, but his velocity was : down at times, and again this year in the early going. In his major league : career thus far, Hughes is 5-6, 5.14 with a 69/39 K/BB in 91 innings. He's : been hit hard in April, and I don't like his 11/10 K/BB ratio in 2008. 就如同你們知道的,Hughes去年在持續出場投球上碰到一些困難。幸好經過檢查發現是 腿肌腱跟踝部的問題,而不是手肘或肩膀的舊傷。考慮到他當時的年紀(20歲),以及在 紐約出賽的環境壓力,他去年的表現其實相當不錯。不過他球速有時候會下滑,同樣的狀 況也發生在今年剛開季。看看他目前的大聯盟成績,5勝6敗、91局ERA 5.14 69/39K/BB。 他在4月裡被打得很慘,同時我也不喜歡他目前11/10 K/BB的比例。 : So what is wrong with Hughes? I get panicked email from Yankees fans, asking : if he was overhyped. No, he wasn't overhyped. Yes, there is a problem with : Hughes right now. He's 21, practically skipped Triple-A, and is pitching for : the New York Freaking Yankees. Cut the kid some slack. Indications are that : his mechanics are a bit off right now , hampering his fastball command and : probably the velocity too. As long as he remains healthy, I think there is a : really good chance that Hughes will be just fine. Maybe he just needs some : additional Triple-A time to regain his mechanical footing. 所以Hughes到底出了什麼毛病?我收到慌張的洋基球迷來信,詢問著Hughes的實力是不是 被大家過分誇大了。不,並沒有。我承認目前他的確是有問題。不過他才21歲,跳過3A直 接為紐約"怪咖"洋基隊投球。讓這個年輕人喘口氣吧!有些消息指出,他投球機制有點跑掉 同時造成球速跟控球的衰退。只要保持健康,我相信Hughes仍然大有可為。或許他只是需 要在3A出賽一些時間把他的投球機制給修正回來。 : Ah, but there's the standard young pitcher caveat: as long as he remains : healthy. I'm not worried about the mechanical problem in and of itself: that : should be correctable. But what if the mechanical problem is a symptom of : some underlying physical issue? That's known to happen, a pitcher altering : his delivery on a subconcious level in response to a developing injury that : he's not even aware of yet. Or what if there is no physical problem right : now, but the mechanical tinkering triggers one as muscles are stressed in an : unusual way? That's known to happen, too. 呃,不過這同時也是一個警訊:"只要他保持健康" 我並不擔心投球機制本身的問題,因為 我相信那是可以被修正的。不過,如果投球機制的轉變,只是身體問題所產生的症狀呢? 我們已經知道這是會發生的。投手因為尚未成形、自己渾然不覺的傷痛,若有意、若無意 地改變了自己的投球機制。或者是考慮另外一種情形,投手目前還沒有身體上的狀況, 卻因為投球機制的改變帶來肌肉不正常的壓力? 這也是會發生的事情。 : Yankees fans want a prediction. So here's one: Hughes will struggle on and : off the next month or two, alternate strong outings with weak ones, with a : slight improvement in his ratios but not enough to make statheads : comfortable. Then in late July he goes on the DL with an injury of some kind, : probably something vague like "shoulder weakness." He rests and rehabs, comes : back in September and pitches like his normal self the rest of the way. He : still may have to pay the Major Injury Piper sometime down the line, but not : this year.. Whaddya think? 基迷想要一個預測。那我就來做一個。Hughes在接下來1到2個月持續掙扎,在好投跟爆炸 之間交替,同時會把他的K/BB比例提升,但還不足以讓數據頭滿意。六月下旬,他將會進 DL,原因則可能模糊不明,例如"肩膀不適"之類的毛病。然後經過休息與復健,九月他將 再起,在剩下的比賽中投出我們所期待他正常的一面。Hughes仍然可能要持續為他的舊傷 付出代價,但不是今年。你們怎麼想? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.179.129 ※ 編輯: YGJHSU 來自: 220.134.179.129 (04/26 14:27)

04/26 14:27,
感謝翻譯 21歲打成21退了~
04/26 14:27
※ 編輯: YGJHSU 來自: 220.134.179.129 (04/26 14:28) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.179.129

04/26 15:49, , 1F
感謝翻譯
04/26 15:49, 1F

04/26 15:51, , 2F
感謝翻譯 超仔細的
04/26 15:51, 2F

04/26 16:05, , 3F
pay the piper 意謂 "為某事付出代價"
04/26 16:05, 3F

04/26 16:08, , 4F
OK 謝謝樓上 那我改一下
04/26 16:08, 4F
※ 編輯: YGJHSU 來自: 220.134.179.129 (04/26 16:11)

04/26 16:09, , 5F
所以這裡就是為 major injury 付出代價
04/26 16:09, 5F

04/26 16:12, , 6F
因為他用大寫我還以為那是個專有名詞...
04/26 16:12, 6F

04/26 16:15, , 7F
yes! he still has time..........
04/26 16:15, 7F

04/26 16:36, , 8F
but some yankees "fans" are out of patience...
04/26 16:36, 8F

04/26 16:51, , 9F
下一場應該是期末考,可能真的到會到3A去調整,但必須有
04/26 16:51, 9F

04/26 16:52, , 10F
另一位先發投手上來,井川慶?!
04/26 16:52, 10F

04/26 17:37, , 11F
鄉民還真是高度期待井川
04/26 17:37, 11F

04/26 17:54, , 12F
錢都花了,偶爾抱一下期待,不過份........
04/26 17:54, 12F

04/26 18:27, , 13F
看來Hughes是被揠苗助長了
04/26 18:27, 13F

04/26 18:28, , 14F
他沒有,OK?他在小聯盟都殺成那樣了,你丟他在小聯盟作啥
04/26 18:28, 14F

04/26 18:30, , 15F
而且他是有經過完整的小聯盟經歷上來的,又不是強拉上來
04/26 18:30, 15F

04/26 19:04, , 16F
04/26 19:04, 16F

04/26 19:34, , 17F
曹在 2A也狂殺..叫上去後也還好 連八場被轟HR..
04/26 19:34, 17F

04/26 19:39, , 18F
Rockies 3A 是特例, 主場比以前的 Coors Field 更地獄
04/26 19:39, 18F

04/26 19:41, , 19F
農場有這種特殊條件不適合養強投
04/26 19:41, 19F

04/26 22:15, , 20F
話說我期待John Sickels作這個分析很久了,看起來還好
04/26 22:15, 20F

04/26 23:22, , 21F
所以小王真的是洋基撿到的...在3A練一個深卡就可以那麼殺
04/26 23:22, 21F

04/26 23:23, , 22F
記得當時雖然在3A頗殺..但沒人預期會成為一個大物
04/26 23:23, 22F

04/26 23:25, , 23F
也不能算撿到,當初簽約金可是比一般的第一輪還高
04/26 23:25, 23F

04/26 23:26, , 24F
最後一段根本是摸水晶球的預測吧XD
04/26 23:26, 24F

04/26 23:33, , 25F
王200多萬的簽約金 洋基球團已經把他當大物了
04/26 23:33, 25F

04/26 23:36, , 26F
宅慶上!!宅慶上!!宅慶上!!宅慶上!!宅慶上!!宅慶上!!宅慶上!
04/26 23:36, 26F

04/27 00:25, , 27F
簽王那年也是有特殊原因才這樣灑,而且也差點養不大XD
04/27 00:25, 27F

04/27 00:25, , 28F
養大養強了還養的很奇怪:P
04/27 00:25, 28F

04/27 00:41, , 29F
怎有種小曹的身影
04/27 00:41, 29F
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