[NFL!] Elway: Trading Tebow was a no brainer

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ENGLEWOOD, Colo. â?? John Elway the player was rarely conservative, and he's proving to be the same as an executive. Nearly eight months after making the biggest gamble in his new career as executive vice president of football operations for the Denver Broncos, Elway has no regrets about pulling off the two biggest moves of the offseason: Luring free agent Peyton Manning to Denver, then trading Tim Tebow to the New York Jets for a pair of late-round draft picks only days later. "The risk was no one really knew about Peyton. There were so many unanswered questions. We went through the process, got all the information we can, talked to the doctors, and decided it was a risk worth taking. And it's worked out," Elway told USA TODAY Sports Tuesday. The Broncos appear to have clearly won that gamble. Manning is a legitimate MVP candidate, having led the Broncos to four straight wins and a 6-3 record heading into Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers. With another victory, Denver would open a three-game lead over its biggest division rival. Meanwhile, the Jets are constantly answering questions about when they'll start Tebow ahead of struggling incumbent Mark Sanchez, a scenario all-too-familiar in Denver. The Jets have lost three in a row, and the offense failed to score in Sunday's 28-7 loss to the Seattle Seahawks. Jets coach Rex Ryan and offensive coordinator Tony Sparano have publicly mulled expanding Tebow's role in the offense, but he's remained mired in a supporting role to this point. Elway said Tuesday that he doesn't want to forget the excitement Tebow brought to Denver and its fan base last year when Tebow sparked a dramatic run to the AFC West title. But moving on from Tebow and back to a more traditional quarterback was the right move, even if it meant at least temporarily angering fans who had fallen hard for Tebow during the Broncos' second-half surge in 2011. "It was a tough situation," Elway said, "There are Tebow fans and there are Broncos fans. My responsibility is to the Broncos fans, and my responsibility is to (owner) Pat Bowlen and what he wants to do, and that's win championships. I base all my decisions on that. "It's difficult not to get personal, because every kid that comes in, it's his dream to play. But the bottom line is, my responsibility that Pat's given me, is to give him the best opportunity to hoist that trophy." Elway said the Jets' wildcat plan for Tebow was not going to work for the Broncos. "With Peyton being here, we couldn't have two different offenses," he said. "We couldn't have a backup quarterback with a totally different offense. We wanted to get back to where everyone was learning the same offense." http://0rz.tw/z70Eq -- 感想: 時間倒回八個月(可以看版上那時相關討論) Peyton傷勢未明,Tebow正在人氣顛峰時,沒人想到八個月後會演變至此 目前看起來Broncos氣勢如虹,Peyton磨合完畢大殺四方, 這週SD versus DEN會是決定性的一場, 即使chargers 僥倖勝broncos,AFC west是否拿的下還很難說, chargers輸,broncos等於宣告提前封王了 而chargers近況奇差無比,前天Turner還在記者面前崩潰發飊 -____- 近幾場只勝過KC,要面對Denver怎麼看都沒有獲勝的機會 但chargers至少沒有別的選擇,Rivers是現在球隊的臉,換不掉 (有人在期待eagles丟出Vick然後chargers撿他) 但Jets就不一樣了 Sanchez已經爛到谷底了,Rex Ryan還是堅定不移的會繼續讓Sanchez先發 然後讓Tim Tebow繼續當偽RB/punt protector XD 雖然以Jets殘破的陣容換Tebow也不知道會好到哪裡去啦 不過至少以拼勁來看他應該比Sanchez好吧? Sanchez讓人感覺就是心力放在不停的換名模女友上.... (then again, Tebow也新交了女友......XDDD) 這季其實娛樂效果最大的就是Jets, 每場開賽前後用關鍵字"Tebow"或"Sanchez"去搜尋, 就會找到一堆評論文章,有正有反,然後底下一堆戰面紅耳斥的鄉民.... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 137.131.176.239
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11/14 13:08, , 1F
DEN下半季的賽程非常有利，打得好的話，衝到11、12勝
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機會很大，甚至也有機會爭取前二種子
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至於Tebow，我認為JAX才適合他，到紐約對他的職業生涯
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11/14 13:09, , 4F
是一點幫助都沒有（當然場外戰利品是不少沒錯）
11/14 13:09, 4F
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11/14 13:42, , 5F
不過現在提波有點量產 本尊快要變成夏亞專用機了
11/14 13:42, 5F
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11/14 13:45, , 6F
除非改練別的位置,否則Tebow根本沒有資格打NFL
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11/14 13:51, , 7F
agree, it should be a no brainer
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11/14 17:50, , 8F
話說太早了，Peyton打的好，但Tebow今年還沒機會證明自己
11/14 17:50, 8F
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11/14 17:53, , 9F
Tebow目前沒機會證明自己真的有點可惜...
11/14 17:53, 9F
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11/14 17:55, , 10F
Rex Ryan不換的原因也有可能是他覺得他位置坐的很穩
11/14 17:55, 10F
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11/14 17:57, , 11F
不然也有可能是另一個球隊高層間的Drama，而Tebow剛好不是
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11/14 17:57, , 12F
Rex Ryan的人馬罷了
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11/14 18:24, , 13F
不了解為什麼Rex Ryan非Sanchez不用 起碼Tebow有想贏
11/14 18:24, 13F
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11/14 18:27, , 14F
而且小弟也不懂為什麼野馬有Peyton就不能有Tebow
11/14 18:27, 14F
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11/14 18:32, , 15F
It's a Tennessee-Florida rivalry φ(._. )>
11/14 18:32, 15F
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11/14 18:44, , 16F
小馬野馬雙贏 噴射機是怎樣我就不知道了
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11/14 21:31, , 17F
因為Tebow 也不是Elway的人馬啊
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11/14 21:32, , 18F
留他下來只是增加四分衛爭議的機會
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11/15 01:39, , 19F
看這篇吧 http://tinyurl.com/b7322wk Tebow在隊友眼中是差
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11/15 01:40, , 20F
到這個程度的,OL都有人具名發言了
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11/15 01:49, , 21F
我真的寧願看他先發然後打得亂七八糟贏不了球被說不行 也不
11/15 01:49, 21F
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11/15 01:49, , 22F
想看他這樣還沒機會證明自己就被說不行....
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11/15 02:43, , 23F
今天的版面又全被Jets的口水戰淹沒了..這隊真是嘴砲無敵隊XD
11/15 02:43, 23F
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如果明年Barkley選秀順位暴跌我想Sanchez跟Leinart兩位學
11/15 03:29, 24F
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11/15 03:30, , 25F
長絕對也貢獻了不少心力 XD
11/15 03:30, 25F
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11/15 03:37, , 26F
Tebow最大的問題就是你不想用他還會被球迷靠北到翻，我想
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11/15 03:38, , 27F
現在Elway想到Payton開始大殺又甩掉Tebow應該做夢都會笑
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11/15 03:41, , 28F
放眼整個聯盟有哪個backup QB會有這麼大的支持聲浪，不想
11/15 03:41, 28F
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11/15 03:43, , 29F
用他的Elway會視他為芒刺在背也不意外
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11/15 03:50, , 30F
Matt Barkley也有點開高走低....以今年來說
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11/15 03:51, , 31F
http://0rz.tw/UKaF5 Ryan says anonymous Tebow critics
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are cowards
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教你如何正確發音terrible http://tinyurl.com/cs9k7g
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11/15 05:09, , 34F
私心盼望Barkley能掉到後段被有資深QB的球隊撿到,最好是DEN
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11/15 05:10, , 35F
走Aaron Rogers模式,他目前的火候還差一點
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11/15 06:29, , 36F
覺得Jets死活不換掉Sanchez的原因是替補QB沒有合適的
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11/15 06:29, , 37F
如果像老鷹一樣板凳上有個Foles應該會試試的
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11/15 06:30, , 38F
畢竟Tebow的wildcat戰術主流的NFL球員教練都瞧不上
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11/15 06:30, , 39F
偶爾來個trick play可以﹐但作為主要戰術不行
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推樓上, 不過雖然McElroy也不是什麼厲害角色但是還不肯讓
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11/15 07:05, , 41F
他多分點上場時間我就不懂了
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11/15 08:08, , 42F
在Daily News裡的文章也提到,現在Jets的接球員都是一群龍套
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11/15 08:08, , 43F
讓誰先發都是炮灰
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11/15 08:58, , 44F
Jets 的休息室就是一群管不住嘴巴的球員... Jets 戰績爛成這
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11/15 08:59, , 45F
樣 要講 'terrible' 要該從有上場的先檢討起.. 挑 tebow 出來
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講只是因為他是個好用的替罪羊而已...
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11/15 09:24, , 47F
5真的 人紅事非多 就因為Tebow不是傳統的QB
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11/15 09:25, , 48F
不代表其他人可以在他沒上場之前就亂下定論
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11/15 12:09, , 49F
Phater大好像很討厭Tebow(?) Jets整隊被教練帶成嘴砲隊
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11/15 13:09, , 50F
應該說Jets的戰績差跟Tebow一點關係都沒有,因為他根本沒有
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11/15 13:10, , 51F
上場的機會. 但就根我當初Jets換來Tebow時預料的一樣,Tebow
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11/15 13:11, , 52F
會讓Jets成為媒體焦點,而且只要Jets戰績不好逼宮論一定會起
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來. 而我不喜歡Tebow的原因是他完全是靠媒體捧進NFL,如果他
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不是Tim Tebow單憑球技是不可能有今天的. 今年上場就不提了
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不多
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11/15 13:16, , 56F
去年他在Denver先發的時候,不管是傳球姿勢,準度,read都奇差
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11/15 13:19, , 57F
無比. 當遭到壓力時就跟火雞一樣四處亂竄,或是把球亂傳. 可
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11/15 13:21, , 58F
是偏偏他這種亂傳亂跑卻好死不死能贏一兩分. 不信的話看看
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11/15 13:23, , 59F
今年K State的Collin Klein,他跟Tebow相似度很大. 看他今年
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NFL選秀會第幾輪被選上就知道了
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今年的Collin Klein 變得好像會傳球了 還是他們的WR太強
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11/15 13:30, , 62F
不過季前一直看新聞說 Tebow有下苦功練傳球 結果今年上來
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11/15 13:31, , 63F
大概都只有跑一下而已 我一直以為Jets要把他練成秘密武器
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看來好像沒有這回事 但我不認為現在讓Tebow先發是好事
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不管對Jets或Tebow都會是傷害
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他也許不值得第一輪 不過至少以他在大學的戰功還是會被選進
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NFL吧 也不至於說靠媒體捧進 拿第一輪選他可能不太適當
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但是後面幾輪我覺得他是有機會選上的 他在大學也威了三年
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11/15 13:44, , 69F
我從他UF時期就開始追 現在看到被這樣講覺得真是有點可憐
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11/15 13:47, , 70F
說他不能進NFL也許有點苛刻,可是像Jason White, Chase
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11/15 13:48, , 71F
Daniel, Kellen Moore這些大學猛將連第七輪的邊都摸不到
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11/15 13:50, , 72F
當初Tebow的projection是三輪後,而且會是一個賭博. Josh
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McDaniels拿第一輪選他當時也讓很多人議論紛紛
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我看過的mock draft多半都是估Kleinsman第四輪
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11/15 14:02, , 75F
我對Jets的嘴砲一點興趣都沒有XD
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11/15 19:43, , 76F
有想要贏最重要 各種職業運動組的夢幻陣容為什麼總是
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拿不到冠軍?
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說到Tebow有下苦功練傳球，結果他今年熱身賽傳球動作比去
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年更大被球評大肆批評了一番
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另外說到大學猛將連nfl都沾不上邊，前鴉鴉的Darron Thomas
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現在在cfl當靶子隊
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Darron Thomas去了eh? country
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11/16 09:31, , 83F
聽說今天Jets的老闆也出來發表意見了是嗎
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其實不論Tebow好不好,能不能傳,ESPN今天的新聞最中肯
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Jets' problem is Sanchez, not Tebow.
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樓上舉的評論不能說不好 但我覺得NYJ的最大問題 其實
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出在老闆Woody Johnson身上 每次巨人拿冠軍就想要
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做炒短線的交易 這種經營方式雖然可以短期吸引票房
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但長期對球隊的發展其實可能弊多於益
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