[花邊] 球員表現與薪資的匹配度(溢價or超值)

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https://x.com/aop_nba/status/1777743208933384221 Latest update of EPM merged with player salaries ^ The more the player has outperformed their contract v The more the player has underperformed their contract > The higher the player’s actual contract is Thoughts? 二月多的時後有發過一篇 #1bs26Wdz (NBA) 最近又更新了 橫軸球員本季至今的薪資 縱軸球員表現經EPM計算所應拿的薪資 藍色表示超值 紅色表示溢價 ^ 球員的表現超出其合約的價值 v 球員的表現未達到其合約的價值 > 球員實際合約薪資越高 大家對此有什麼看法? https://i.imgur.com/u1piQVE.jpg
二月的圖: https://i.imgur.com/At0eVeH.jpg
Some notes on how this was done and how to interpret it: 一些關於如何完成此事以及如何解讀它的註解: To create this I merged EPM data from @taylor_snarr’s excellent site (dunksandt hrees) with salary data from @spotrac. 為了創見這個,我將來自@taylor_snarr的優秀網站dunksandthrees中的EPM數據,與來自@s potrac的新資數據合併。 Right off the bat…obviously a player’s value can never be accurately determine d by one composite metric, otherwise building a team would be super simple. That being said, it still can provide some insight. 首先 很明顯,一個綜合指標永遠無法準確判斷一位球員的價值,否則建立一個隊伍將會 變得非常簡單。儘管如此,它仍然可以提供一些觀察。 Players on rookie deals (most of the top left) have a greater chance outperformi ng their contracts be default. 對於還再跑新秀合約的球員(大多位在左上角),通常有更大的機會超越其合約價值。 Injuries obviously play a role (ex. Ja Morant). It is an unfortunate reality, bu t still a reality. Another example is Joel Embiid, who has having a historic sea son and outperforming his contract by a huge margin all year until he missed the last two months. 傷病顯然扮演了巨大的角色(例如Ja Morant)。這是一個不幸的現實,但就是現實。另一 個例子是Joel Embiid,他在整個賽季都有著歷史性的表現,並且一直大幅超出他的合約價 值,直到錯過了近兩個月。 Being in a negatives does not mean a player is having a bad season. Example, Ste ph Curry. All it suggests is that Curry’s value is closer to ~$49M than ~$52M t his season. 處於溢價區並不意味著該球員有一個糟糕的賽季。例如,Steph Curry。這只是表示他的價 值在此計算下,更接近49M。 The analysis tends to hurt players with big contracts playing a smaller role thi s season, Jrue Holiday and Beal are examples of that. 這項分析不利於扮演較小角色的高薪球員,Jrue Holiday和Bradley Beal就是這樣的例子。 想看更細節的每支球隊結果在以下連結: https://x.com/aop_nba/status/1777762629911707695 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.162.140.241 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1712754352.A.0D4.html

04/10 21:07, 3周前 , 1F
先找西門
04/10 21:07, 1F

04/10 21:10, 3周前 , 2F
咖哩溢價欸
04/10 21:10, 2F

04/10 21:11, 3周前 , 3F
咖哩就差不多合約價值 他這季確實表現就那樣
04/10 21:11, 3F

04/10 21:12, 3周前 , 4F
溢價三巨頭:比爾、西門、拉文
04/10 21:12, 4F

04/10 21:13, 3周前 , 5F
今天還有人說Ayton要賣應該很多隊要買 笑死
04/10 21:13, 5F

04/10 21:14, 3周前 , 6F
Jrue是能說扮演小角色 Beal能算嗎?
04/10 21:14, 6F

04/10 21:15, 3周前 , 7F
咖哩就合約太貴 只論場上表現的確算溢價
04/10 21:15, 7F

04/10 21:16, 3周前 , 8F
我大西門 躺著賺
04/10 21:16, 8F

04/10 21:16, 3周前 , 9F
都什麼年代了還在看坦隊刷的傳統數據
04/10 21:16, 9F

04/10 21:16, 3周前 , 10F
咖喱還是溢價
04/10 21:16, 10F

04/10 21:16, 3周前 , 11F
沒可愛怒噓
04/10 21:16, 11F

04/10 21:16, 3周前 , 12F
這網站是羊殺隊嗎
04/10 21:16, 12F

04/10 21:17, 3周前 , 13F
西門ww
04/10 21:17, 13F

04/10 21:22, 3周前 , 14F

04/10 21:22, 3周前 , 15F
防守評分不高嗎 狗貝怎麼這麼低
04/10 21:22, 15F

04/10 21:22, 3周前 , 16F
NAW最近越打越好 9M/2Y也超便宜 感謝爵士
04/10 21:22, 16F

04/10 21:22, 3周前 , 17F
Irving居然是負的
04/10 21:22, 17F

04/10 21:24, 3周前 , 18F
難怪會傳聞老鷹想賣吹羊?
04/10 21:24, 18F

04/10 21:25, 3周前 , 19F
他是看EPM的 狗貝OEPM比較低 不過也溢價一點而已
04/10 21:25, 19F

04/10 21:25, 3周前 , 20F
范喬丹竟然是正的
04/10 21:25, 20F

04/10 21:26, 3周前 , 21F
可愛應該是跟pg重疊了
04/10 21:26, 21F

04/10 21:29, 3周前 , 22F
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04/10 21:29, 3周前 , 23F
大SGA真的很頂級又超值啊
04/10 21:29, 23F

04/10 21:31, 3周前 , 24F
塔克老師11M然後負那麼多代表是負的嗎?XD
04/10 21:31, 24F

04/10 21:32, 3周前 , 25F
KI是因為有缺賽一陣子
04/10 21:32, 25F

04/10 21:35, 3周前 , 26F
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04/10 21:36, 3周前 , 27F
詹酸臉腫翻車囉
04/10 21:36, 27F

04/10 21:37, 3周前 , 28F
西門笑死
04/10 21:37, 28F

04/10 21:42, 3周前 , 29F
勞工之光 西門
04/10 21:42, 29F

04/10 21:43, 3周前 , 30F
不用看就知道最溢價的是誰 勞工楷模當仁不讓
04/10 21:43, 30F

04/10 21:44, 3周前 , 31F
吹羊也是因為薪水高 然後缺賽太多 這表就沒排除受傷
04/10 21:44, 31F

04/10 21:49, 3周前 , 32F
這網路是普殺隊
04/10 21:49, 32F

04/10 21:49, 3周前 , 33F
網站
04/10 21:49, 33F

04/10 21:53, 3周前 , 34F
普殺隊看向西門:
04/10 21:53, 34F

04/10 22:02, 3周前 , 35F

04/10 22:04, 3周前 , 36F
比爾真的好貴…
04/10 22:04, 36F

04/10 22:06, 3周前 , 37F
繼續吹溢價史一控xdddd
04/10 22:06, 37F

04/10 22:17, 3周前 , 38F
未看推文先猜最右邊最下面比爾拉文西門
04/10 22:17, 38F

04/10 22:18, 3周前 , 39F
那兩個小犢出品的是怎樣 上面不冷嗎
04/10 22:18, 39F

04/10 22:21, 3周前 , 40F
塔克老師
04/10 22:21, 40F

04/10 22:31, 3周前 , 41F
沒啥參考意義
04/10 22:31, 41F

04/10 22:32, 3周前 , 42F
哇砲哥有這麼溢價嗎?
04/10 22:32, 42F

04/10 22:35, 3周前 , 43F
怎沒可愛
04/10 22:35, 43F

04/10 22:40, 3周前 , 44F
森哥肯定屬於超級超值
04/10 22:40, 44F

04/10 22:42, 3周前 , 45F
青賽杰倫在哪啊?
04/10 22:42, 45F

04/10 22:52, 3周前 , 46F
咖哩就是聯盟頂薪,表現也頂級,身手不愧對薪水阿
04/10 22:52, 46F

04/10 22:53, 3周前 , 47F
不用看就知道誰最紅
04/10 22:53, 47F

04/10 23:11, 3周前 , 48F
小白!
04/10 23:11, 48F

04/10 23:15, 3周前 , 49F
花環沒想到在那個位置
04/10 23:15, 49F

04/10 23:22, 3周前 , 50F
PG打比較多場的關係嗎
04/10 23:22, 50F

04/10 23:46, 3周前 , 51F
縱軸應該是應該多拿(少拿)的薪資吧
04/10 23:46, 51F

04/10 23:55, 3周前 , 52F
非新人約的球隊一哥,最便宜的是森哥嗎??
04/10 23:55, 52F

04/11 01:12, 3周前 , 53F
咖哩溢價蠻合理的,就跟吃高級餐廳cp 值很低一樣
04/11 01:12, 53F

04/11 01:23, 3周前 , 54F
狗貝的價值不容易被看見啊
04/11 01:23, 54F

04/11 01:41, 3周前 , 55F
Kuzma更便宜一點
04/11 01:41, 55F

04/11 01:43, 3周前 , 56F
大橋應該是最便宜 太早續約了
04/11 01:43, 56F

04/11 02:39, 3周前 , 57F
大頭森真的尼克賺爛了
04/11 02:39, 57F

04/11 07:50, 2周前 , 58F
西門笑死
04/11 07:50, 58F

04/11 08:14, 2周前 , 59F
梅西是什麼廉價勞工嗎XD
04/11 08:14, 59F

04/11 08:43, 2周前 , 60F
所以sga應該領73m?
04/11 08:43, 60F

04/11 09:02, 2周前 , 61F
拉文真的有夠廢
04/11 09:02, 61F

04/11 12:12, 2周前 , 62F
推黃字解說怎麼解讀這項數據,鉛筆是個季中受傷病
04/11 12:12, 62F

04/11 12:12, 2周前 , 63F
影響的好例子,兩個月前還在藍點超值範圍,現在落
04/11 12:12, 63F

04/11 12:12, 2周前 , 64F
到黃點區
04/11 12:12, 64F

04/11 12:13, 2周前 , 65F
西門倒是屹立不搖Xd
04/11 12:13, 65F

04/11 14:27, 2周前 , 66F
curry真的是溢價啊 什麼鬼領導力啊
04/11 14:27, 66F

04/11 20:52, 2周前 , 67F
先找西門就對了
04/11 20:52, 67F

04/13 18:06, 2周前 , 68F
sga咖哩合理,但先找
04/13 18:06, 68F

04/13 18:06, 2周前 , 69F
西門
04/13 18:06, 69F
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