[外絮] NBA選秀多項規定改動

看板NBA作者 (EZ78)時間1年前 (2023/04/19 22:13), 編輯推噓89(890232)
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https://reurl.cc/GeqZ0v 作者:Jonathan Givony Major changes to the NBA draft landscape are coming in the new collective bargaining agreement, mutually agreed on by the NBA and the players' association this month. A 91-page jointly written memo sent out by the NBA and National Basketball Players Association to teams and players Monday and obtained by ESPN highlights two significant changes to the NBA draft process, the effects of which will be felt for years. Beginning in 2024, all invited players will be required to attend and participate in the NBA draft combine or be ineligible to be drafted until the "first subsequent draft for which the player attends and fully participates." 上個月NBA與球員工會商談出的新板勞資協議大幅改動了NBA選秀的生態。 這份91頁(...難怪Woj跟Shams都在擠牙膏)於星期一由NBA與NBPA撰寫送出給球隊與球員的 備忘錄ESPN也有取的。其中有兩項顯著的改變了NBA選秀的流程。而這改動接下來幾年將會 非常有感。 2024年開始,所有被邀請的球員都強制性的出席並參加NBA聯合試訓,否則他們在"他們完 整出席並參與試訓的下一次選秀"之前都不能被選。 心得:粗大事 以後每一篇NBA聯合試訓的外電都要認真讀了 Givony Vecenie:賺翻 Participation will include league medical examinations, sharing of medical history and biomechanical and functional movement testing, as well as strength and agility testing, shooting drills, performance testing and anthropometric measurements. Players will also be required to conduct team interviews, media circuits, player development sessions and other assessments, as determined by the NBA in consultation with the NBPA. Players will not be compelled to compete in 5-on-5 scrimmaging, which typically only a handful of first-round prospects elect to participate in. This represents a significant shift in favor of NBA teams that have long lobbied for this rule change. In the past, agents of elite prospects would regularly strategize to keep medicals of clients away from less-attractive franchises in hopes of steering their players to preferred destinations, something that will no longer be possible. This should also likely make the draft combine more compelling, as a large number of top prospects often elected to skip fully participating or attending altogether. Players who are physically unable to participate, because of playing with a FIBA club still in-season, family tragedy, the birth of a child, or an injury, as determined by the medical director of the combine, will be required to complete components at a later date. Failure to do so will result in being ineligible to be selected on draft night. There will be limits on sharing medical information among teams based on the projected draft range of top players. For example, the projected No. 1 pick will have his medical information shared only with teams picking in the top 10. Players ranked 2-6 will be shared with teams in the top 15, and players 7-10 with teams in the top 25, with the exception of potentially life-threatening injury or medical conditions that render a player unfit to perform his duties as a professional basketball player, in accordance with the Fitness-to-Play Panel process. 參與包含了聯盟的醫療檢驗、分享醫療與人體機能資訊與各項體能測試,也包含了力量與 靈敏度測試、投籃測試、運動表現測試、人體測量等等。球員也被要求參加球隊面試、媒 體圈、球員發展會議與其他等等評估。不過球員不會強制參加5v5練習戰,這過往都只有寥 寥數個首輪會參與這個環節。(去年Jalen Williams就是從這個環節脫穎而出的,但打的很 爛的Roddy或是中途翹掉的Laravia行情也沒受到重大傷害。) 這代表了NBA球隊方在這方面的談判取得了重大優勢。過去,菁英級別新秀的經紀人都會策 略性的不讓沒興趣的球隊看到自己客戶的醫療資訊來讓自家球員加入自己想去的球隊,而 這將不會再發生了。而大量頂尖新秀的強制加入也會讓聯合試訓更吸引目光。 如果因為還在海外打球、家庭喪事、小孩誕生或受傷(需要有試訓醫療專員的證明)而無法 參與的球員,則仍須在日後補上部分環節,否則將不具有被選秀的資格。 不過在球隊中流通的醫療資訊將只會給在預期順位附近的球隊。舉例來說,預測為狀元的 球員,他的醫療資訊只會給有前10順位的球隊。預測為2-6的資訊只會給前15順位。預測為 7-10的則為前25。但如果是具有生命威脅並會讓球員無法完成職業球員職責的傷勢及醫療 狀況則是例外。 The NBA and NBPA will agree upon a method to rank the top-10 prospects before the NBA draft lottery, using a blend of publicly available rankings, an appointed panel of experts and a retained-scouting service. For the first time, certified agents of participating players will be credentialed to attend the combine to "promote players' access to their representatives." The NBA and NBPA also agreed to limit the ability of teams to attend agent-sponsored pro days outside of the combine setting. Pro days will be held in a single athletic facility either in California or on the East Coast, over no more than a two-day period. In the past, NBA teams would spend significant time traveling from gym to gym around the United States to attend pro days, a costly and resource-intensive process that was widely despised by scouts, but did not prevent them from attending en masse. NBA與球員工會也在抽樂透簽前排行前10潛力的方式上達成共識。他們將會綜合使用數個公 開且為指定專家與球探做出的排名。 不過這也將會是史上第一次已經被認證的球員經紀人將可以參加試訓來增進與自己客戶的 聯繫。 NBA與球員工會也同意要限制球隊參與經紀人舉辦的職業日。職業日通常都會在東岸或是加 州的體育中心舉行並不超過2天。過去,NBA球隊會花很多時間在全美各個體育館旅行來參 加職業日。這相當消費資源且這過程會體現資源差距也因此被球探們所鄙視。但這並不能 讓他們不參加這些職業日。 The second major change that will be instituted in the new CBA involves doing away with automatic eligibility for high school or collegiate players who sign professional contracts with entities such as G League Ignite, Overtime Elite (OTE) or the Australian NBL. In the past, players who signed with such entities would be automatically eligible for the subsequent NBA draft, regardless of whether they were interested in doing so or not, provided they were turning 19 in that calendar year. 第二項主要改動則是去除了高中或大學畢業就簽下職業合約(包含G-League Ignite、OTE與 NBL等等)的球員自動獲得選秀資格的機制。 過去,簽下這些合約的球員都會在滿19歲時自動獲得下一次選秀的資格,而這完全無視了 他們是否要參加選秀的意願。 心得:這個好像沒什麼差lol 比較像是亡羊補牢的效果與增加彈性 Examples include Jalen Green with Ignite, LaMelo Ball in Australia, the Thompson twins with OTE, or collegiate players who elected to turn pro without entering the draft, such as Efe Abogidi, who signed with G League Ignite after his sophomore season at Washington State. Even international players, such as Dyson Daniels, became automatically eligible for the following draft upon signing with Ignite. G League Ignite had found loopholes to get around this restriction -- for example, signing players after the start of the NBA season -- but will no longer need to do so, significantly expanding the pool of potential prospects to include those who might need several years of development and seasoning before being ready to maximize their draft stock. Forcing players to become automatically eligible had wide-ranging ramifications for the likes of Ignite, OTE and the NBL, with several players going undrafted as teenagers -- Daishen Nix (previously committed to UCLA) or Michael Foster with Ignite -- something that proved to be a significant deterrent for those considering professional pathways out of high school. The revision of these sections of the CBA means that U.S.-based players will be able to sign pro contracts with G League Ignite, OTE or international teams and spend several years with those entities until they elect to enter the draft on their own volition, or turn 22 years old during the calendar year of the draft. This will likely have major implications on alternative pathway entities' ability to recruit elite prospects out of high school, international destinations or college, opening a wide range of options for players. 這其中的例子就包含了Ignite的Jalen Green、澳洲的Lamelo Ball、OTE的Thompson雙胞胎 或者是一些沒參加NBA選秀就成為職業球員的如Efe Abogidi(他大二球季棄學華盛頓州大並 加入了Ignite)。即使是國際球員如Dyson Daniels也在與Ignite簽約之後自動獲得了資格 。 G-League Ignite就在這規定中找到了漏洞。舉例來說,他們在NBA球季開始後才簽下某一 些球員來多獲得一些需要多年發展的潛力。而這些球員也因為選秀價值還沒到最高點並未 有參選的意願(之後不用這樣做了)。 強制性的讓一些球員自動獲得選秀資格造成許多青少年球員落選的結果--Daishen Nix(原 本承諾UCLA)與Michael Foster都是這樣的例子。而這也被證明對於一些高中畢業走職業 銜接管道的球員生涯是有害的。 這項重新編輯後的新規定代表了美國球員將可以與G-League Ignite、OTE或是其他國際球 隊簽下複數年合約並在他們想要時參選,或是等到22歲自動符合資格。這也間接代表了這 些銜接性的機構將能提供更多選項給高中畢業、國際甚至是大學球員。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 71.232.216.168 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1681913616.A.16F.html

04/19 22:14, 1年前 , 1F
強制出席超讚 可以看頂級新秀的動靜態數據了
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04/19 22:14, 1年前 , 2F
勸退?
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04/19 22:15, 1年前 , 3F
很公平啊 也避免一些惡意投機炒作下的新秀
04/19 22:15, 3F

04/19 22:16, 1年前 , 4F
樓上測個身體數據又看不出球技
04/19 22:16, 4F

04/19 22:16, 1年前 , 5F
我猜NBA想要跟NFL一樣讓試訓也有直播圈錢
04/19 22:16, 5F

04/19 22:16, 1年前 , 6F
除非是隱瞞傷病
04/19 22:16, 6F

04/19 22:18, 1年前 , 7F
很好啊
04/19 22:18, 7F

04/19 22:18, 1年前 , 8F
怕有些人混到第二輪?
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04/19 22:20, 1年前 , 9F
直播圈錢是一個目的 另一個應該是球團一直在靠北
04/19 22:20, 9F

04/19 22:21, 1年前 , 10F
這幾項改動整體上對球團在節省成本上效果很好
04/19 22:21, 10F

04/19 22:21, 1年前 , 11F
對 球團跟球探靠北很多年了XD
04/19 22:21, 11F

04/19 22:21, 1年前 , 12F
沒有勸退的問題吧 美金那麼香
04/19 22:21, 12F

04/19 22:21, 1年前 , 13F
尤其是Pro Day毫無參考價值但又不能不去
04/19 22:21, 13F

04/19 22:22, 1年前 , 14F
尤其經紀人權力過大也讓他們很不爽
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04/19 22:23, 1年前 , 15F
終於有這種球探了!
04/19 22:23, 15F

04/19 22:24, 1年前 , 16F
強制聯合試訓 含醫療資訊開示 不錯欸 水貨機率降低
04/19 22:24, 16F

04/19 22:25, 1年前 , 17F
醫療資訊沒公開啦 只會給落點附近的人看
04/19 22:25, 17F

04/19 22:26, 1年前 , 18F
那個範圍跟公開差不了多少了吧 7幾乎就給到全聯盟
04/19 22:26, 18F

04/19 22:26, 1年前 , 19F
應該要增加 心智評估
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04/19 22:27, 1年前 , 20F
心智評估有阿 自己面試自己做
04/19 22:27, 20F

04/19 22:28, 1年前 , 21F
這幾年這個環節也越來越多球隊重視了
04/19 22:28, 21F

04/19 22:28, 1年前 , 22F
感覺沒什麼必要吧 過去很多準狀元準前三順位不都不
04/19 22:28, 22F

04/19 22:28, 1年前 , 23F
狀元給前十 2~6給樂透區 7~10給到25順位範圍不小了
04/19 22:28, 23F

04/19 22:28, 1年前 , 24F
鳥這個的
04/19 22:28, 24F

04/19 22:29, 1年前 , 25F
就是他們不鳥所以現在要強制參加阿
04/19 22:29, 25F

04/19 22:29, 1年前 , 26F
近年水貨太多,隱瞞病情為了爭取高薪打球
04/19 22:29, 26F

04/19 22:29, 1年前 , 27F
不參加體測等等檢查不給你選 很兇
04/19 22:29, 27F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 28F
醫療資訊是MPJ條款嗎XDD
04/19 22:30, 28F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 29F
對 我也在猜Zion是促成這個結果的原因之一
04/19 22:30, 29F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 30F
完全公開透明化,避免隱瞞傷病才是球團這次要的
04/19 22:30, 30F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 31F
強制試訓就避免球員方為了不想被某些球隊選所以不配
04/19 22:30, 31F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 32F
胖虎絕對是這次的主因
04/19 22:30, 32F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 33F
和試訓跟提供資料吧
04/19 22:30, 33F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 34F
大家都不知道MPJ身體如何,讓他在小綠屋發呆
04/19 22:30, 34F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 35F
因為他進職業前其實身體就爆的很嚴重了
04/19 22:30, 35F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 36F
有球商評估嗎?
04/19 22:30, 36F

04/19 22:30, 1年前 , 37F
可是zion當初應該有給鵜鶘醫療報告吧
04/19 22:30, 37F

04/19 22:31, 1年前 , 38F
不是阿 準狀元給你看 你也選不到啊
04/19 22:31, 38F

04/19 22:31, 1年前 , 39F
隱瞞傷勢把數據弄漂亮,合約拿到就養傷真的不行
04/19 22:31, 39F
還有 242 則推文
04/19 23:42, 1年前 , 282F
慢恢復 現在至少有普通輪替的等級
04/19 23:42, 282F

04/19 23:43, 1年前 , 283F
肩傷=>YIPS=>腕傷=>胸廓出口症候群=>ACL=>腳趾骨折
04/19 23:43, 283F

04/19 23:43, 1年前 , 284F
大家都怕再選出那種選前炒作超大,結果選進來後要馬
04/19 23:43, 284F

04/19 23:43, 1年前 , 285F
心裡素質超玻璃,或者是肥肉說成肌肉結果一直不管好
04/19 23:43, 285F

04/19 23:43, 1年前 , 286F
多災多難到一個不可思議的程度 不過看起來有在復甦
04/19 23:43, 286F

04/19 23:43, 1年前 , 287F
體態的
04/19 23:43, 287F

04/19 23:45, 1年前 , 288F
選到這種被他們跟經紀公司聯合搞一次大約後躺平球團
04/19 23:45, 288F

04/19 23:45, 1年前 , 289F
實在沒辦法再承受了
04/19 23:45, 289F

04/19 23:45, 1年前 , 290F
看起來這些改動不錯壓
04/19 23:45, 290F

04/19 23:46, 1年前 , 291F
我怎麼記得yips後來被證實沒有了
04/19 23:46, 291F

04/19 23:46, 1年前 , 292F
只有TOS
04/19 23:46, 292F

04/19 23:46, 1年前 , 293F
試訓有差嗎 感覺變成隨便做做 像是KD當初的臥推
04/19 23:46, 293F

04/19 23:47, 1年前 , 294F
Zion那種你就算覺得有問題哈市會拼下去吧 天賦擺在
04/19 23:47, 294F

04/19 23:47, 1年前 , 295F
那,而且他也沒心理問題才對,飲食不節制這個恐怕
04/19 23:47, 295F

04/19 23:47, 1年前 , 296F
不是聯合試訓跟醫療報告能檢驗出來的。
04/19 23:47, 296F

04/19 23:49, 1年前 , 297F
管不住嘴也是心理疾病吧
04/19 23:49, 297F

04/19 23:55, 1年前 , 298F
本來就該聯合體檢 不然有些超級水
04/19 23:55, 298F

04/20 00:00, 1年前 , 299F
KD的順位哪可能隨便做做握推0下 輸易建聯又不會怎樣
04/20 00:00, 299F

04/20 00:00, 1年前 , 300F
他是射手又不是內線 易建聯當初靜態天賦確實不差
04/20 00:00, 300F

04/20 00:02, 1年前 , 301F
聯合試訓,就搞成像大拜拜,一定很熱鬧
04/20 00:02, 301F

04/20 00:05, 1年前 , 302F
聯合試訓的體測主要是賣轉播
04/20 00:05, 302F

04/20 00:05, 1年前 , 303F
真的非常有用的反而是健康報告
04/20 00:05, 303F

04/20 00:09, 1年前 , 304F
最前面順位還沒啥差 中間差別可大了吧
04/20 00:09, 304F

04/20 00:22, 1年前 , 305F
KD試訓用腳投藍也不會落選
04/20 00:22, 305F

04/20 00:28, 1年前 , 306F
工會居然同意了
04/20 00:28, 306F

04/20 00:37, 1年前 , 307F
其實這個改動不錯 新秀變成更透明了
04/20 00:37, 307F

04/20 00:39, 1年前 , 308F
驗貨直播 讚啦
04/20 00:39, 308F

04/20 01:17, 1年前 , 309F
強制體測大推
04/20 01:17, 309F

04/20 01:56, 1年前 , 310F
工會沒有什麼理由不同意啊!這些人都還沒被選中耶
04/20 01:56, 310F

04/20 02:34, 1年前 , 311F
這是好事
04/20 02:34, 311F

04/20 07:05, 1年前 , 312F
公平公正公開 是好事 不然搞得跟神鬼交峰一樣 根本
04/20 07:05, 312F

04/20 07:06, 1年前 , 313F
就對僕實努力的球員不公平
04/20 07:06, 313F

04/20 07:41, 1年前 , 314F
西門還有教練寵的問題吧 但也許高層有授意教練只好
04/20 07:41, 314F

04/20 07:41, 1年前 , 315F
順著他
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04/20 08:26, 1年前 , 316F
強制驗貨太推了
04/20 08:26, 316F

04/20 09:16, 1年前 , 317F
這應該是西門跟Zion對聯盟的另類貢獻吧
04/20 09:16, 317F

04/20 09:22, 1年前 , 318F
強制體測好像也很正常
04/20 09:22, 318F

04/20 09:23, 1年前 , 319F
當時就一直不懂…為什麼一個球員還能自己挑人給
04/20 09:23, 319F

04/20 10:37, 1年前 , 320F
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04/20 11:45, 1年前 , 321F
水鳥表示認同
04/20 11:45, 321F
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