[外絮] 也許尼克主要問題在進攻, 而不是防守已回收

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※ [本文轉錄自 Knicks 看板 #1IYWZn60 ] 作者: kiawe (未來 好遠好遠) 看板: Knicks 標題: [外電] 也許尼克主要問題在進攻, 而不是防守 時間: Mon Nov 18 20:32:44 2013 http://tinyurl.com/lapm8ht Ever since the Knicks elevated Mike Woodson to head coach after the March 2012 dismissal of Mike D’Antoni, Woodson has preached defense, toughness and rebounding. These are terms that resonate with Knicks fans, who cherished the gritty success of the teams led by Pat Riley and Jeff Van Gundy. After a 110-90 home loss to the Atlanta Hawks on Saturday, Woodson and the Knicks returned to the theme of defensive identity. 自從解僱冷笑話之後,尼克評估武僧可以勝任總教練的原因是他可以帶來堅強的防守。這些 東西是尼克球迷非常喜愛的,因為從油頭跟大范開始,防守就是勝利的保證。但在主場以 90-110輸給老鷹之後,武僧以及尼克又回到防守這個問題上。 The Hawks’ 56 percent field-goal shooting provided ample reason to fret. But the real problem may be at the other end of the floor, where a significant drop in scoring efficiency has put even more strain on a flimsy defense. 老鷹隊五成六的投籃命中率讓尼克有一堆事情值得檢討。但是真正的問題卻可能是來自於球 場的另外一端,得分效率大幅下降讓原本已經不怎樣的防守更糟糕 Heading into Saturday, the Knicks were allowing opponents to score at nearly the same rate they did over all last season. Because 54 victories and countless Tyson Chandler snarls are hard to ignore, there was a perception that the 2012-13 Knicks were at least adequate on defense. The truth is, they were simply exceptional on offense: They did not wrestle opponents into submission so much as they blew them out of the water. 直到星期六,尼克終於可以將對手的得分壓制在跟去年差不多程度。去年尼克至少還算是有 個不錯的防守,因為去年54場勝利跟拳王敲鍋完的咆哮仍舊歷歷在目。但真相是,這個防守 建立在強大的進攻上面。尼克的防守其實並沒有讓窒息到像把對手的頭直接塞到水裡按到死 。 Last season’s Knicks accomplished something spectacular when they set an N.B.A. record for 3-pointers made and attempted, yet played fewer possessions each game than any other team. The statistics reflected the Knicks’ dedication to working through the shot clock, systematically dismantling the defense in search of an open 3-pointer or a clear drive to the rim. 去年尼克讓人印象深刻的地方是,就算每場比賽回合數比任何一對都要少,他們仍然破NBA 記錄的三分球命中數跟出手數。這個統計反映出尼克很認真的在消耗掉每次24秒進攻時間, 有系統的拆解對方的防守,並且找到三分空擋,或是進攻籃框的機會。 This season, the Knicks’ 3-pointers and free throws attempted, key indicators of offensive effectiveness, are down significantly. The decline is a reflection of how much harder they have had to work for their points. The back-line defense of Andrea Bargnani, a newcomer, has been thoroughly scrutinized, but less has been made of Raymond Felton’s disappearance. Felton struggled with injury at the start of the season, and his jump shot has yet to recover. Perhaps more important, he has not been able to consistently initiate the Knicks’ drive-and-kick offense. 反觀今年球季,尼克的三分還有罰球的出手數(這兩個數字代表的是重要的進攻效率指標)都 大幅度地下降。這個下降反映出尼克在進攻是有多痛苦多掙扎。初來乍到的Bargnani要負責 防守上的最後防線,已經被各方鞭了不知道幾百下。但是大家都沒有注意到肥頓在防守上根 本沒有幫忙到任何事情。肥頓今年開季就因傷病困擾,同時他的跳投準星依舊還沒有找回來 ,但更關鍵的也許是這小胖子根本不想要打切傳。 Whether Felton’s ineffective play is the cause or the result of the Knicks’ lack of spacing and ball movement is unclear. But the impact is obvious: More and more of the Knicks’ possessions are running through Carmelo Anthony in the post. 先不管肥頓的爛進攻是不是尼克無法有效製造外線空擋或傳導的原因,還是個馬後砲,但是 這件事情的影響非常明顯,只會讓尼克的進攻都只有一千零一招:Melo低對單打。 “Right now, we’re not in much of a rhythm,” Iman Shumpert said of the offense. “And I think the worse it gets, the more we’re trying to put on the shoulders of our scorer.” “現在,我們整隊根本配不起來啊”,香佛對進攻表示意見,“我想進攻越不順只會讓我們 嘗試更想要打好” Anthony, rather than finding his offense on catch-and-shoot 3-pointers and cuts to the basket, is being forced to create his opportunities from scratch. Even for a scorer with Anthony’s gifts, it is a grueling, inefficient way to earn points. Anthony has labored to carry the offense, but he cannot be expected to score 40 points every night. Melo被逼迫要去打爛仗,而不是嘗試去做他習慣的三分catch-and-shoot跟直接進攻籃筐。 就算Melo是個天生得分好手,這種沒效率的爛帳進攻也是會讓人受不了的啊。Melo已經 carry下進攻了,但是你沒有辦法期待他每天晚上都大幹40分吧。 The Knicks conceded that their difficulty scoring had affected their defensive intensity. “I think we’re dependent on our offense,” Woodson said, “trying to find offense and not really thinking the defensive end.” After the Knicks miss a shot, Shumpert said, “the air goes out of the building because we missed that shot.” He added, “We got to get back and get that stop and get revved up again.” 尼克教練團承認他們進攻上的失敗已經連帶影響到防守強度了。“我想我們真的是很依賴進 攻“,武僧說到,”我嘗試去找到我們的進攻模式並且不要一直想防守端的事情“ 當尼克隊某球沒進,香佛說,”就因為我們進攻沒打進,整個球場好像窒息一樣“。他又說 ,”我們現在必須要想出辦法重新振作起來“ Whether the Knicks can regain their offensive flow is a question that perhaps only Felton can answer. Pablo Prigioni is the Knicks’ best facilitator of ball movement, but Woodson continues to limit his minutes, and Beno Udrih, a backup point guard, has fallen out of the rotation. 尼克可不可以重新找回進攻節奏的唯一解也許也只有肥頓可以回答。當Prigioni在的時候, 尼克進攻時球的傳導是最好的,但是武僧一直限制Prigioni的時間,而且Udrih這個替補控 衛甚至還不在rotation上。 It is also possible that the Knicks are missing the injured Chandler at center just as much on offense as on defense. He is their best screener, and he has developed chemistry with Felton and Anthony on pick-and-rolls. 另外拳王的傷在尼克進攻上的影響也許跟防守上的一樣。拳王是最好的單擋武器,而且在肥 頓和Melo的擋切上,拳王提供很好的化學效應。 Chandler’s absence has forced Bargnani to the center position and returned Anthony to power forward. Against Atlanta, the Knicks’ best offensive sequences came when those two spread the floor and created some 3-point chances for Bargnani. 拳王的缺陣迫使Bargnani要站到5號位而且Melo也要回到PF。打老鷹的那場,尼克最好的進 攻結果都是肥頓跟Melo拉開替Bargnani製造三分出手機會。 Bargnani will need to capitalize on those shots because he is the Switzerland of pick-and-roll defense. His policy of noninvolvement is well known throughout the N.B.A., and Hawks point guard Jeff Teague mercilessly targeted him Saturday. Bargnani seemed to actively avoid providing any support when his man set a screen, a tactic that led to layups and fouls. This season, Teague has attempted 24 free throws in seven quarters against the Knicks (he sat out the fourth quarter Saturday). Bargnani需要確實的投進這些三分的原因是要彌補當面對對方的擋切時,他根本就是不會參 與防守的損失。尼克限制Bargnani在防守上投入的體力是全NBA都知道的事情,所以JT毫無 保留地狂打尼克這個痛點。Bargnani在面對擋人進攻的時候,看起來好像不會主動提供隊友 幫忙,所以導致對手可以輕鬆的上籃或是製造犯規。這一季,JT在面對尼克的七節裡面得到 的24個罰球機會(星期六這場比賽神武JT第四節還都沒上喔!!)。 While Teague is having a career season, there is no shortage of aggressive point guards who run dozens of pick-and-rolls each game. The Knicks can improve marginally in those situations, but if they are going to be successful this season, it will not begin with stops, despite the defense-first refrain from the locker room. Last season’s Knicks could hang around and count on an eventual shower of 3-pointers to pull away from an opponent. Hawks guard Kyle Korver said before Saturday’s game, “I still feel like we’re playing a very similar team,” but through nine games, the Knicks have yet to show such explosiveness. 當JT正準備要打出生涯年時,讓他這麼一個善於打擋切的控球後衛執行戰術是一個完全正 確的事情。就算以防守為主體的尼克在面對JT的擋切也只能儘量想辦法做出進步,但是今 年如果要是個成功的球季,這種事情不能一直再發生。去年尼克可以每一場都在下三分雨把 對手射爽爽。Korver在星期六的比賽前說,”我仍然感覺我們正打一隻跟我們非常相像的 球隊“,但是九場比賽過去了,尼克還沒有展現出跟老鷹一樣的得分爆發力。 There is a sense that, like a phrase on the tip of your tongue you just cannot remember, these Knicks are a possession away from regaining the rhythm and confidence that inspired deafening cheers at Madison Square Garden last season. After the Knicks were booed again Saturday, talk in the locker room focused on effort and trust. But when it comes to more tangible solutions, the Knicks are a team at a loss for words. 就像你好像記得什麼事情,可是卻臨時想不起來一樣,這些Knicks離重新讓麥迪遜花園廣 場想起震耳欲聾的歡呼聲還有好長一段路要走。尼克在被boo之後,隊員們間必須要互相信 任並且主動做好自己的事情。但是當要解決這些明顯的問題時,尼克整隊卻又都不知道怎 麼辦。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 1.171.170.99 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: kiawe (1.171.170.99), 時間: 11/18/2013 20:42:46

11/18 20:43, , 1F
豪哥都走了 who cares?
11/18 20:43, 1F

11/18 20:52, , 2F
Woodsen當防守助理教練是可以,但好像總教練不太完備
11/18 20:52, 2F

11/18 20:52, , 3F
樓上何必噓?
11/18 20:52, 3F

11/18 20:53, , 4F
反串的噓 意外嗎?
11/18 20:53, 4F

11/18 20:53, , 5F
進攻沒有去年犀利三分雨導致防守壓力更大,一體兩面
11/18 20:53, 5F

11/18 20:54, , 6F
恩 my bad, sorry
11/18 20:54, 6F

11/18 20:54, , 7F
尼克只有兩個問題 進攻與防守
11/18 20:54, 7F

11/18 20:54, , 8F
有Melo在的球隊 本來就沒防守了
11/18 20:54, 8F

11/18 20:55, , 9F
JR如果可以穩定拿個15分左右可能還不會這麼慘
11/18 20:55, 9F

11/18 20:55, , 10F
Melo進攻沒話說 但防守本來就不是強項 做一半的防守
11/18 20:55, 10F

11/18 20:56, , 11F
武僧防守教練 但現在守禁區的再會教都沒用吧
11/18 20:56, 11F

11/18 20:56, , 12F
當初先給豪哥合約 搞不好就先簽了
11/18 20:56, 12F

11/18 20:56, , 13F
你把所有進攻壓力放在Melo身上,還要他扛PF...
11/18 20:56, 13F

11/18 20:56, , 14F
不用大約綁豪神,不意外
11/18 20:56, 14F

11/18 20:56, , 15F
然後武僧從老鷹時代進攻就一招球星ISO啦....
11/18 20:56, 15F

11/18 20:56, , 16F
當然人手是不夠啦....總之炒掉武僧好像也不是解絕法
11/18 20:56, 16F

11/18 20:57, , 17F
又不敢用阿罵... 再這樣甜瓜應該會走人 吹瓜
11/18 20:57, 17F

11/18 20:57, , 18F
去年進攻其實在吃MDA老本,現在被打回原形了
11/18 20:57, 18F

11/18 20:57, , 19F
不過看流言 武僧的位子暫時應該還蠻穩的
11/18 20:57, 19F

11/18 20:57, , 20F
阿罵除非是醫生認為不要上,否則至少可以分擔進攻吧
11/18 20:57, 20F

11/18 20:58, , 21F
拳王不在 防守比紙糊還爛 可見拳王防守要一個打多少
11/18 20:58, 21F

11/18 20:58, , 22F
目前尼克戰績不好但武僧似乎還是將球隊凝聚的不錯
11/18 20:58, 22F

11/18 20:58, , 23F
武僧進攻根本沒啥料,再加上現在尼克的爛防守
11/18 20:58, 23F

11/18 20:59, , 24F
以這點來說就很值得稱讚了,畢竟NBA的教頭不是會畫
11/18 20:59, 24F

11/18 20:59, , 25F
戰術板就好
11/18 20:59, 25F

11/18 21:00, , 26F
至於為什麼簽JR弟多付160萬豪華稅 也不想多補強 那就
11/18 21:00, 26F

11/18 21:00, , 27F
是尼克自己問題了
11/18 21:00, 27F

11/18 21:00, , 28F
不過長遠來看 尼克似乎...很...
11/18 21:00, 28F

11/18 21:02, , 29F
沒在關注
11/18 21:02, 29F

11/18 21:02, , 30F
看了BARG對火箭那場 我對尼克的防守充滿希望
11/18 21:02, 30F

11/18 21:07, , 31F
只有兩個問題…進攻和防守
11/18 21:07, 31F

11/18 21:16, , 32F
武僧的進攻只會球給甜瓜 防守又一堆痛痛人
11/18 21:16, 32F

11/18 21:17, , 33F
請別用阿嬤.....
11/18 21:17, 33F

11/18 21:19, , 34F
武僧跟瓜JR同掛的 怎可能沒辦法凝聚 差別在於壓力
11/18 21:19, 34F

11/18 21:19, , 35F
太大要有人扛時 教練通常是第一個
11/18 21:19, 35F

11/18 21:23, , 36F
武僧在老鷹遇到的問題一樣啊,所以他創造出了名為
11/18 21:23, 36F

11/18 21:23, , 37F
武僧怕阿罵上太多不是受傷就是和大茂搶球投寧可冰他
11/18 21:23, 37F

11/18 21:23, , 38F
iso Joe 的怪物,專門消耗球迷看比賽的熱情
11/18 21:23, 38F

11/18 21:24, , 39F
結果武僧離開老鷹這麼多年,老鷹才真正快起來、開始
11/18 21:24, 39F

11/18 21:25, , 40F
分球打、開始打擋拆、開始投三分...
11/18 21:25, 40F

11/18 21:25, , 41F
今年尼克問題可能還是傷兵太多吧
11/18 21:25, 41F

11/18 21:40, , 42F
這篇翻譯錯的地方好多 XDDDDDDDDD
11/18 21:40, 42F

11/18 21:56, , 43F
等等,Melo真的沒辦法每場幹四十分嗎?
11/18 21:56, 43F

11/18 21:57, , 44F
多出手20次,應該可以吧?
11/18 21:57, 44F

11/18 22:07, , 45F
立群沒在輪替名單?
11/18 22:07, 45F

11/18 22:19, , 46F
NOVAK表示:
11/18 22:19, 46F

11/18 22:35, , 47F
總板誰不認識1F哥啊~
11/18 22:35, 47F

11/18 22:40, , 48F
東方神秘力量發威
11/18 22:40, 48F

11/18 22:41, , 49F
現成的Beno不用 傻逼
11/18 22:41, 49F

11/18 22:55, , 50F
純推 jeff teague
11/18 22:55, 50F

11/18 23:40, , 51F
淚推瓜瓜
11/18 23:40, 51F

11/19 00:52, , 52F
推翻譯
11/19 00:52, 52F

11/19 00:54, , 53F
結果喊話要當領袖的,通篇沒提到他,這是不具名的悲哀?
11/19 00:54, 53F

11/19 01:36, , 54F
已經沒有救世主
11/19 01:36, 54F

11/19 01:40, , 55F
一個好的進攻體系Melo幹40分雖然有難度 不過30上下
11/19 01:40, 55F

11/19 01:40, , 56F
應該是有機會 不過現在這環境Melo要幹40分對手應該會
11/19 01:40, 56F

11/19 01:41, , 57F
先把他打殘 他只能靠自己硬打 又要不到哨音
11/19 01:41, 57F

11/19 08:50, , 58F
小范?
11/19 08:50, 58F
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